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2024-25 Season Discussion and Speculation Part IV

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Re: 2024-25 Season Discussion and Speculation Part IV 

Post#481 » by Mr Puddles » Sun Feb 9, 2025 4:47 am

KdoubleDees23 wrote:Buyout Suns should go after Kyle Anderson or Bones Hyland or Chris Boucher or Mo Bamba


No Bamba, but Chris Bousure why not..

Mo isn't better than our bigs, but Chris can atleast help as a rim protector and switch defender. He should be able to beat out Plumlee for minutes.
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Re: 2024-25 Season Discussion and Speculation Part IV 

Post#482 » by Fo-Real » Sun Feb 9, 2025 5:35 am

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KdoubleDees23 wrote:Buyout Suns should go after Kyle Anderson or Bones Hyland or Chris Boucher or Mo Bamba


No Bamba, but Chris Bousure why not..

Mo isn't better than our bigs, but Chris can atleast help as a rim protector and switch defender. He should be able to beat out Plumlee for minutes.


Bol is better. We need an active smart Center, someone who causes action instead of stands flat footed and takes whatever happens. Maybe even an irritant!!
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Re: 2024-25 Season Discussion and Speculation Part IV 

Post#483 » by thamadkant » Sun Feb 9, 2025 5:59 am

Hornets now have an extra center with Nurkic and Williams.
Wonder what injuries they found. Or is it worse? As in disease or something nefarious.
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Re: 2024-25 Season Discussion and Speculation Part IV 

Post#484 » by Mr Puddles » Sun Feb 9, 2025 6:31 am

thamadkant wrote:Hornets now have an extra center with Nurkic and Williams.
Wonder what injuries they found. Or is it worse? As in disease or something nefarious.


Nurk must have been l excited about becoming a starter again :lol:

Only to discover the news today.
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Re: 2024-25 Season Discussion and Speculation Part IV 

Post#485 » by Fo-Real » Sun Feb 9, 2025 6:37 am

If Micic gets bought out to go back over-seas this season, we need to replace him on the roster with a C/pf if we aren't giving Oso minutes!! Either a physical live body or back to the basket slash 3 pt threat. Someone like Frank the Tank, Davis Bertans, Skal, Collin Castleton, someone who is an offensive threat while being BIG!! Teams are backing away and daring that spot to do ****. Makes it hard on others. Either need a guy that will dribble to the cup AND can stick the shot OR a gut who can be a dangerous shooter.A THREAT, Richards, Plumlee and Oso are not that!
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Re: 2024-25 Season Discussion and Speculation Part IV 

Post#486 » by Slim Charless » Sun Feb 9, 2025 7:19 am

Hope they dont buy him out. I was excited when we got him
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Re: 2024-25 Season Discussion and Speculation Part IV 

Post#487 » by Fo-Real » Sun Feb 9, 2025 7:49 am

Slim Charless wrote:Hope they dont buy him out. I was excited when we got him


Who us he better than or more effective than for RIGHT NOW?
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Re: 2024-25 Season Discussion and Speculation Part IV 

Post#488 » by Frank Lee » Sun Feb 9, 2025 11:08 am

Olynyck and Boucher… get one or the other

Before the Lukers do
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Re: 2024-25 Season Discussion and Speculation Part IV 

Post#489 » by bullsaficianado » Sun Feb 9, 2025 12:42 pm

Frank Lee wrote:Olynyck and Boucher… get one or the other

Before the Lukers do


I agree with this. I like either so get one of them.

Lukers... :D
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Re: 2024-25 Season Discussion and Speculation Part IV 

Post#490 » by sunskerr » Sun Feb 9, 2025 12:44 pm

Boucher might actually be better than Olynyk at this point in time but that's not a stance I'm entirely sold on myself.

Whatever sends plumlee back to the netherworld.
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Re: 2024-25 Season Discussion and Speculation Part IV 

Post#491 » by Saberestar » Sun Feb 9, 2025 1:00 pm

Fo-Real wrote:If Micic gets bought out to go back over-seas this season, we need to replace him on the roster with a C/pf if we aren't giving Oso minutes!! Either a physical live body or back to the basket slash 3 pt threat. Someone like Frank the Tank, Davis Bertans, Skal, Collin Castleton, someone who is an offensive threat while being BIG!! Teams are backing away and daring that spot to do ****. Makes it hard on others. Either need a guy that will dribble to the cup AND can stick the shot OR a gut who can be a dangerous shooter.A THREAT, Richards, Plumlee and Oso are not that!

You are describing Olynyk.
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Re: 2024-25 Season Discussion and Speculation Part IV 

Post#492 » by Ghost of Kleine » Sun Feb 9, 2025 2:06 pm

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Re: 2024-25 Season Discussion and Speculation Part IV 

Post#493 » by BobbieL » Sun Feb 9, 2025 2:08 pm

Slim Charless wrote:Hope they dont buy him out. I was excited when we got him


He doesn’t have a future with the suns

Let him go back to Europe
Buy him out
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Re: 2024-25 Season Discussion and Speculation Part IV 

Post#494 » by Fo-Real » Sun Feb 9, 2025 2:57 pm

Frank Lee wrote:Olynyck and Boucher… get one or the other

Before the Lukers do


I would say Buyout Micic and Martun and sign BOTH.
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Re: 2024-25 Season Discussion and Speculation Part IV 

Post#495 » by bwgood77 » Sun Feb 9, 2025 3:47 pm

Saberestar wrote:
sunsbg wrote:
Saberestar wrote:Divas with hurt egos for saying that? LOL.

They are human and they have a say on where they want to play or not, he just said that he doesn't want to play for them.


Divas not only because of this of course. If you like your superheroes ruin your beloved franchise it's your right though.

KD is our best player and he has a lot value around the league, just look what the GSW offered for him a few days ago.

He is a big positive for the franchise and his playing this season has been great, we have an starting All-Star player in him.

Like every other big time player he has a voice on where he wants to play and where he doesn't and I love that players has that right, they aren't bots.

I love the Suns and I think KD on them makes them more relevant and better, results haven't been as great as expected but we have 30 games left and it's gonna be an interesting ride to the playoffs. Play-IN or not, we are in the mix next to other 11 teams.

In the offseason the Suns FO AND KD will decide about his future and then we can decide where he can be traded or sign him to an extension.

It will be great to have him more years on the roster or get a huge package of assets for him in the summer (win-win in both cases IMO) but for now I am focused on this season.


The trade for him was obviously a fail though. I mean I don't know how that can be argued against. The prevailing thought was we were going all in with Book and KD for a championship. And we did fairly well the first season we had him when we still had Ayton.

But last year was a huge disappointment and this year probably worse. And we haven't even gotten through halfway of the years our picks were given up for yet. This year we will likely give up a lottery pick.
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Re: 2024-25 Season Discussion and Speculation Part IV 

Post#496 » by sunsbg » Sun Feb 9, 2025 4:10 pm

bwgood77 wrote:
Saberestar wrote:
sunsbg wrote:
Divas not only because of this of course. If you like your superheroes ruin your beloved franchise it's your right though.

KD is our best player and he has a lot value around the league, just look what the GSW offered for him a few days ago.

He is a big positive for the franchise and his playing this season has been great, we have an starting All-Star player in him.

Like every other big time player he has a voice on where he wants to play and where he doesn't and I love that players has that right, they aren't bots.

I love the Suns and I think KD on them makes them more relevant and better, results haven't been as great as expected but we have 30 games left and it's gonna be an interesting ride to the playoffs. Play-IN or not, we are in the mix next to other 11 teams.

In the offseason the Suns FO AND KD will decide about his future and then we can decide where he can be traded or sign him to an extension.

It will be great to have him more years on the roster or get a huge package of assets for him in the summer (win-win in both cases IMO) but for now I am focused on this season.


The trade for him was obviously a fail though. I mean I don't know how that can be argued against. The prevailing thought was we were going all in with Book and KD for a championship. And we did fairly well the first season we had him when we still had Ayton.

But last year was a huge disappointment and this year probably worse. And we haven't even gotten through halfway of the years our picks were given up for yet. This year we will likely give up a lottery pick.


Impossible. Big spender Matt will never allow this to happen. Both present and future are super bright.
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Re: 2024-25 Season Discussion and Speculation Part IV 

Post#497 » by BobbieL » Sun Feb 9, 2025 4:39 pm

sunsbg wrote:
bwgood77 wrote:
Saberestar wrote:KD is our best player and he has a lot value around the league, just look what the GSW offered for him a few days ago.

He is a big positive for the franchise and his playing this season has been great, we have an starting All-Star player in him.

Like every other big time player he has a voice on where he wants to play and where he doesn't and I love that players has that right, they aren't bots.

I love the Suns and I think KD on them makes them more relevant and better, results haven't been as great as expected but we have 30 games left and it's gonna be an interesting ride to the playoffs. Play-IN or not, we are in the mix next to other 11 teams.

In the offseason the Suns FO AND KD will decide about his future and then we can decide where he can be traded or sign him to an extension.

It will be great to have him more years on the roster or get a huge package of assets for him in the summer (win-win in both cases IMO) but for now I am focused on this season.


The trade for him was obviously a fail though. I mean I don't know how that can be argued against. The prevailing thought was we were going all in with Book and KD for a championship. And we did fairly well the first season we had him when we still had Ayton.

But last year was a huge disappointment and this year probably worse. And we haven't even gotten through halfway of the years our picks were given up for yet. This year we will likely give up a lottery pick.


Impossible. Big spender Matt will never allow this to happen. Both present and future are super bright.


Makes you wonder if Mat read the new CBA because it was very prohibitive and it was written what was going to happen

For the long term of the franchise, almost hope they have such a poor second half that Booker and the team work out a trade for him

Truly, I do not think the Suns can straddle this by trying to rebuild about Booker by just trading Durant. I think they just need to rip the whole dang band-aid off

And boy oh boy - if the Front Office didn't have such focus on that stupid Butler trade - they probably could have got good value for Durant. Big missed opportunity
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Re: 2024-25 Season Discussion and Speculation Part IV 

Post#498 » by KdoubleDees23 » Sun Feb 9, 2025 4:43 pm

Just send Booker, KD, and Beal to an early vacation. Tank and get Cooper Flagg in draft.

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Re: 2024-25 Season Discussion and Speculation Part IV 

Post#499 » by bwgood77 » Sun Feb 9, 2025 4:44 pm

BobbieL wrote:
sunsbg wrote:
bwgood77 wrote:
The trade for him was obviously a fail though. I mean I don't know how that can be argued against. The prevailing thought was we were going all in with Book and KD for a championship. And we did fairly well the first season we had him when we still had Ayton.

But last year was a huge disappointment and this year probably worse. And we haven't even gotten through halfway of the years our picks were given up for yet. This year we will likely give up a lottery pick.


Impossible. Big spender Matt will never allow this to happen. Both present and future are super bright.


Makes you wonder if Mat read the new CBA because it was very prohibitive and it was written what was going to happen

For the long term of the franchise, almost hope they have such a poor second half that Booker and the team work out a trade for him

Truly, I do not think the Suns can straddle this by trying to rebuild about Booker by just trading Durant. I think they just need to rip the whole dang baid-off


How do you rebuild around Book with the limited assets we have? Even if you could sign a max guy in 27 when Beal comes off the books, we simply don't have enough defense, size, etc, to do it.

We would have to make a killer draft pick this summer, likely getting a steal C late in the first who could protect the rim and surprise. Like a Lively, Missi, etc.

But still, even take a bottom tier team this year like the Pelicans and look at their defense and depth when they get healthy.

Zion, Trey Murphy, Herb Jones, Dejounte Murray, Yves Missi, CJ McCollum, Cooper Flagg (or whoever else they get with a top 5 pick)...Bruce Bowen, etc, etc.

Honestly, remove Zion from that group and give it to Booker as a supporting cast. I think we'd be a lot better. But it takes a while to get a bunch of pieces like that.
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Re: 2024-25 Season Discussion and Speculation Part IV 

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