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Post#681 » by ImNotMcDiSwear » Tue May 6, 2014 12:19 am

lilfishi22 wrote:Is that assuming Boozer gets amnestied?


cosmofizzo wrote:There's a lot of talk that Boozer may be released by the Bulls.
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Post#682 » by lilfishi22 » Tue May 6, 2014 12:53 am

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lilfishi22 wrote:Is that assuming Boozer gets amnestied?


cosmofizzo wrote:There's a lot of talk that Boozer may be released by the Bulls.

Just read up on the waiver claiming rules for amnestied players. It's possible to pick him up for less than his waivered salary but I think we would have to be looking at something in the $8-9m range before we'll find any real value in picking him up.
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Post#683 » by thamadkant » Tue May 6, 2014 1:22 am

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I'm pretty sure McD wouldn't hesitate to pull the trigger if Len and Goodwin were not included (even without assurance of Love staying). He may only have the opportunity to get a guy like Love once in a decade.

I don't think Minny would do it yet though. But if you have Love starting, and Frye off the bench as backup center or something, this team is on another level.

If the team did really well, I can't see Love leaving for less money anyway. It's pretty rare, especially if a team is good. For Howard it was understandable. Of course there is the McDyess scenario, which still makes little sense to me.


Just looking at Goodwin's potential... he could be James Harden but with defense.... Its far fetch NOW... but he is 19... he can drive at will, have enough athleticism... its his shot that will NEED to improve to be a threath.
At minimum he could be Lance Stephenson but more fluid and better character/work ethic as soon as his 3rd year.... and beyond that he could be a star by the time he is 24-25.

Len could be a Deandre Jordan by the time he is 25 years old... pulling double figure rebounds and 3-4 blocks a game.

Love is good, but he isnt a two way player star.... as I said.. he is David Lee with a 3point shot.... damn good player... but you need to surround him with good defenders and athletes to make a true contender.


Hence why I said if we DIDN'T have to include Goodwin and Len in a trade for Love, and it was the Morris bros and picks, I think McD would pull the trigger.

But I think many feel he is more than David Lee with a 3 pt shot. The guy has led the league in rebounding. First white guy since.....?

He was 26/12.5/4.4 this year. Barkley never had a year with those numbers. At this point you could say he is a taller Barkley who can hit the 3. That's probably a better comp than David Lee.

He is constantly a triple double threat. Sure he may not be perfect but most consider him a top 10 player. He was 3rd in PER this year.


I'm sure you've seen Barkley play...
Barkley is closer to Lebron in terms of how athletic he was and how he over powers his opponents, bigger and longer opponents. Barkley was a special player ... So is Love but not as special zzz
Love is a legit 6'9-6'10 player so it's not far fetch for an active big man like him to grab tons of rebound.

Love is good, let's not forget David Lee was a 20/12 player as a knick... Add 3pt shot and he would scored 25+ as first option. Love is a first option now whilst David Lee is a 3rd option.
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Re: 2014 Official FA Thread 

Post#684 » by QuickLikeTheo » Tue May 6, 2014 4:35 am

Steve Urkel wrote:Raps fan here

I've been really impressed with P.J. Tucker all season, he's a completely different player than when he was drafted by the Raps and seems to have that gritty intensity on both ends of the floor which makes players like him so valuable. I obviously haven't seen him play as many games as you guys have but what do you guys think about him? How much money do you think he's going to sign for as a free agent?

He is kinda like u described gritty on both ends. An above average on-ball defender and he's a pretty good 3pt shooter from the corners. He should get a contract worth around 3-4 million per year, but that's just a fans view so it could be higher or lower but it's in the ballpark. Overall he's a great team player. O and he's a great rebounder from the SF spot.
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Re: 2014 Official FA Thread 

Post#685 » by Bogyo » Tue May 6, 2014 7:24 am

lilfishi22 wrote:
cosmofizzo wrote:
lilfishi22 wrote:Is that assuming Boozer gets amnestied?


cosmofizzo wrote:There's a lot of talk that Boozer may be released by the Bulls.

Just read up on the waiver claiming rules for amnestied players. It's possible to pick him up for less than his waivered salary but I think we would have to be looking at something in the $8-9m range before we'll find any real value in picking him up.


The bulls are trying to trade him before that, and he is an expiring contract. I m pretty sure the Bulls would add a first rounder if someone took his salary off their hands, so they could go after Melo without that financial restrain.
I ve allready suggested it in another thread (or this thread a cpl pages earlier after some nonsense Pau stuff), that if we cant get anybody this summer, and try to keep our cap space for 2015 - why not take a stab at him (and the bulls pick next yr)? Or switch our Indy pick this year for the bulls pick?
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Post#686 » by bwgood77 » Tue May 6, 2014 2:31 pm

I know I've mentioned him before, but another good possible buy low candidate is Brandon Rush. The year before his season ending injury in GS, he was shooting 45% from 3 and is a solid defender. Last year once he got healthy again in Utah, they never really played him, but he was still kind of coming back from his torn acl. I wouldn't be surprised if we could get him at a really low price in free agency just to add wing depth with 3 pt range and defense (or to eventually replace Green or Tucker if they got sizable offers elsewhere).

Here is the last espn bit I could find on him.

The Utah Jazz have played decently over the last month, however the goal is still to rebuild this season, so any players who don't have a future with the team could be offered in trade proposals up to the Feb. 20 deadline. Those players are Andris Biedrins, Richard Jefferson, Brandon Rush and Marvin Williams. Of the four, Rush has the most to offer if he's healthy. Rush is getting better after the torn ACL last season and the hardest part is mentally trusting the knee. Rush played 14 minutes on Monday and scored seven points without missing a shot. Rush, to no surprise, is stoked with the performance.

"I definitely felt ... a little bit more comfortable than I’ve been showing the last few weeks," Rush told The Salt Lake Tribune. "I think it’s just coming from practice — all the practice time we’ve been having."

Rush is a solid defender and can knock down shots, which is why he could be moved over the next month if he continues to play well and the knee stays strong. Teams that might have interest in Rush include Chicago and Oklahoma City.

All four players could land in the free agent market late next month, should they not be traded, via a buyout with the Jazz. Players waived by Mar. 1 each season are eligible to play in the post-season.
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Post#687 » by RunDogGun » Tue May 6, 2014 2:46 pm

I liked Rush, but I just don't know about him now, and it would really depend on who we drafted (and how many we draft). It would be great if Goodwin came into the summer league with a much improved shot.
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Post#688 » by lilfishi22 » Wed May 7, 2014 12:23 am

RunDogGun wrote:I liked Rush, but I just don't know about him now, and it would really depend on who we drafted (and how many we draft). It would be great if Goodwin came into the summer league with a much improved shot.

I'm with you on this. I wouldn't be unhappy if we couldn't get him since it would mean more burn for Goodwin but I think Rush would be a good back up 2 if we can get him fully healthy.
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Post#689 » by TASTIC » Sun May 18, 2014 9:14 am

Al Farouq-Aminu - could be a GREAT buy low guy here.

He's got a great motor, awesome athlete, good length and is a very good rebounder for a guy with his slight frame.

I could definitely see us offering him a 2yr 'make good' deal - he'd be ideal as a SF/PF in the defensive unit.
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Post#690 » by DRK » Sun May 18, 2014 4:17 pm

Jerryd Bayless and Ed Davis are two guys I wouldnt mind picking up. Bayless is dynamite off the bench, and Davis brings some young frontcourt stability.

Wouldnt mind bringing me back some Wesley J on the cheap for a 3+D guy. He played really well when he got minutes here. Surprisingly athletic too
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Post#691 » by rsavaj » Sun May 18, 2014 4:45 pm

DRK wrote:Jerryd Bayless and Ed Davis are two guys I wouldnt mind picking up. Bayless is dynamite off the bench, and Davis brings some young frontcourt stability.

Wouldnt mind bringing me back some Wesley J on the cheap for a 3+D guy. He played really well when he got minutes here. Surprisingly athletic too


Check Wes's gamelogs and I think you'll find that he didn't play as well as you remember.
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Post#692 » by NapoleonII » Sun May 18, 2014 5:18 pm

Weasley Johnson? No thanks.

KLove is no Sir Charles. Charles was a physical presence, a transition monster and a go-to scorer. Love has a more finesse game, a shooting touch and a rebounding machine. I'd roll the dice if he wanted to sign with us, with Bledsoe and Dragic providing the late-game closing and clutchness. He'd fit perfectly with the Slash Bros, though I'm not sure he's worth the max.

It's not the perfect scenario for us to contend in the west, but we have all other variables: GREAT coaching, Dragic in his prime, an emerging star in Bledsoe, a solid bench (assuming we lose the Morri and/or Len) and good role players (Tucker, Green, Plumlee, Frye).

A solid center and a better backup point, and we could roll with anyone.

Dragic/Backup Point
Bledsoe/Goodwin
Tucker/Green
Love/Frye
Plumlee/Backup Center
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Post#693 » by Saberestar » Sun May 18, 2014 8:31 pm

Rockets, Others Interested In Zoran Dragic

The Rockets are the leaders among many NBA teams interested in Spanish league shooting guard Zoran Dragic, reports Lefteris Moutis of Eurohoops.net. Unicaja Malaga is likely to pick up its team option on Dragic this summer, but the contract includes a $500K NBA buyout. That figure is within the NBA’s Excluded International Player Payment Amount of $600K for next season, so the buyout probably won’t be a stumbling block. An NBA deal is more likely to hinge on playing time for the brother of Suns guard Goran Dragic, as Zoran Dragic is seeking a significant role right away, Moutis writes.

Dragic played for Houston’s summer league team in 2012, around the time his brother left the Rockets to sign with the Suns. It’s unlikely he’ll play in an NBA summer league again this year, Moutis writes. He’s set to undergo hernia surgery after the Spanish league playoffs, and that will knock him out for a month. Once healthy, he’ll join the Slovenian national team as it prepares for this summer’s World Cup of basketball, as Moutis documents.

An enhanced role in Unicaja Malaga’s offense allowed Dragic’s numbers to jump this season, as he put up 10.6 points on 8.1 shots per game after posting just 4.9 PPG on 3.9 shots a contest in 2012/13. He also improved his three-point stroke, going from woeful 22.5% accuracy last year to 32.7% this season, but that still makes him a below-average shooter who’d seemingly have trouble fitting in with Houston, which places a premium on the trey. He went undrafted in 2011 and turns 25 in June, so it’s worth wondering just how much potential he possesses. Perhaps teams are considering him with an eye toward his brother, who can become a free agent next summer.


http://www.hoopsrumors.com/2014/05/rock ... ragic.html
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Post#694 » by lilfishi22 » Mon May 19, 2014 1:20 am

I want some Zoran on this team. I think we could give him Ish Smith minutes which is around 15mpg.
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Post#695 » by Scutt » Mon May 19, 2014 2:30 am

^ I would rather those minutes go to Archie Goodwin. Besides the last thing this team is more siblings. We should try to sell tickets because are a young exciting team, not because of some gimmick of having pairs of brothers on the team.
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Post#696 » by lilfishi22 » Mon May 19, 2014 2:47 am

Oh yeah, forgot about Archie, my bad.
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Post#697 » by DRK » Mon May 19, 2014 2:54 am

rsavaj wrote:
DRK wrote:Jerryd Bayless and Ed Davis are two guys I wouldnt mind picking up. Bayless is dynamite off the bench, and Davis brings some young frontcourt stability.

Wouldnt mind bringing me back some Wesley J on the cheap for a 3+D guy. He played really well when he got minutes here. Surprisingly athletic too


Check Wes's gamelogs and I think you'll find that he didn't play as well as you remember.



Maybe my perception of his play was skewed by being forced to watch Shannon Brown for 3 seasons.
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Re: 2014 Official FA Thread 

Post#698 » by bigfoot » Mon May 19, 2014 6:36 pm

Hoping Indy trounces the Heat. If so I would expect the Lebron/Wade/Bosh era is over. Then we are really talking about the free agent game and this nonsense about trading the farm for Kevin Love will wither on the vine and die.
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Post#699 » by JTrain » Mon May 19, 2014 9:35 pm

I'm all for gimmicks. Bring in Zoran and the rest of the Plumlees.

PS - Is Archie ultimately a SG or PG?
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Post#700 » by lilfishi22 » Mon May 19, 2014 11:40 pm

If bringing Marcus to our team elevated Kieff to close to 6MOY status, bringing Zoran in would elevate Goran to superstar MVP status. It's science.

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