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Re: The Official Draft Thread 2: Judgement Day 

Post#701 » by Kerrsed » Wed Jun 27, 2012 4:09 am

Alex Kennedy: The Rockets are still trying to acquire first-round picks. They attempted to trade for the #10 pick, but talks with the Hornets broke down. via Twitter


I hear they have been calling everyone. I wonder what their offer to us was? :-?
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Re: The Official Draft Thread 2: Judgement Day 

Post#702 » by ATTL » Wed Jun 27, 2012 4:10 am

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Amaretotheline wrote:Lopez has us picking Waiters.


Lopez who?


Robin. ESPN had a mock where a player from each team chooses their pick.
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Re: The Official Draft Thread 2: Judgement Day 

Post#703 » by bwgood77 » Wed Jun 27, 2012 4:10 am

ESPN Mag did a mock draft where a player from each team made their team's pick...Robin Lopez made our pick and picked Waiters.

Beal slid to 19, but probably mostly because people drafting past about 5 probably didn't realize he was still on the board and thought he was gone. JJ Redick didn't miss it, of course.
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Re: The Official Draft Thread 2: Judgement Day 

Post#704 » by Kerrsed » Wed Jun 27, 2012 4:11 am

sunskerr wrote:
Amaretotheline wrote:Lopez has us picking Waiters.


Lopez who?


Robin.

It was a players draft. They had a player from each team draft for their own team. Its kinda (Please Use More Appropriate Word), at least the results were. He is some of the info:

-Jennings ordered the Lamb for the Deer (Jennings, Monta, Lamb)
-Nolan Smith took Sullinger 6th. Maybe there's something in the water down in Portland (not including Oden rehabbing his knee) with all the red flagged players.
-Bradley, wanting to give Averybody an aneurysm, took PJ III and Wroten back-to-back
-Tony Allen took Henry Sims 25th, citing his size, while also admittedly not knowing much about him
-Players shamelessly took their boys (ex-teammates)
-Wilson Chandler took Kris Joseph 20th, ahead of more intriguing guys
-Redick's chronicle with a real quote in less than desired context: Beal "has a life-threatening injury or a habit of punching his coaches"
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Re: The Official Draft Thread 2: Judgement Day 

Post#705 » by JMac1 » Wed Jun 27, 2012 4:11 am

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Chad Ford: Terrence Ross in Cleveland for last minute workout tomorrow. He's not in mix at 4. He's not on board at 24. Interesting. He is a good fit. via Twitter


:-?



Told you guys once I sold myself on Ross he wasn't going to be available...at that point he was in the late teens. If we don't get a SG in this draft...... you got to be eff'n kidding me?! 5 SG and a PG drafted in the first 12...in a big heavy draft WTF?!!! that is crap. I'm bought ready to get back on the Jones bandwagon, I want someone who has beast potential!!
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Re: The Official Draft Thread 2: Judgement Day 

Post#706 » by sunskerr » Wed Jun 27, 2012 4:11 am

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Alex Kennedy: The Rockets are still trying to acquire first-round picks. They attempted to trade for the #10 pick, but talks with the Hornets broke down. via Twitter


I hear they have been calling everyone. I wonder what their offer to us was? :-?


Knowing us we refused a Dragic S&T for Childress.
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Re: The Official Draft Thread 2: Judgement Day 

Post#707 » by bwgood77 » Wed Jun 27, 2012 4:17 am

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Chad Ford: Terrence Ross in Cleveland for last minute workout tomorrow. He's not in mix at 4. He's not on board at 24. Interesting. He is a good fit. via Twitter


:-?



Told you guys once I sold myself on Ross he wasn't going to be available...at that point he was in the late teens. If we don't get a SG in this draft...... you got to be eff'n kidding me?! 5 SG and a PG drafted in the first 12...in a big heavy draft WTF?!!! that is crap. I'm bought ready to get back on the Jones bandwagon, I want someone who has beast potential!!


I've wanted Ross from the beginning but would be ok with Lamb...Waiters would be nice too. Weird thing about Ross was, until the last couple of days, I thought for sure he would be there, and then all of the sudden I've read a bunch of stuff saying he is the real sleeper.

I think many of these teams in the top 10 though are trying to scare lower teams into thinking they will take who that team is targeting in hopes they can trade down to get who they want (mainly Toronto and GS who want 3s.) I wouldn't be that surprised if on draft night one of those teams takes Waiters (if they still have their pick at that point) and we take who they want and we swap and give them something else.
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Re: The Official Draft Thread 2: Judgement Day 

Post#708 » by RunDogGun » Wed Jun 27, 2012 4:20 am

sunskerr wrote:
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I hear they have been calling everyone. I wonder what their offer to us was? :-?


Knowing us we refused a Dragic S&T for Childress.


But that would mean we would be adding in our first? No f*cking way we give up another pick to get Goran back! That would mean he cost us two second rounders (one being DBlair), and two firsts (one could have been MBrooks, and this year's seems good). No thanks!
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Re: The Official Draft Thread 2: Judgement Day 

Post#709 » by Kerrsed » Wed Jun 27, 2012 4:20 am

Wow, Drummond has been really sliding down the board since Lamb threw him under the bus. :o

Alot of the mocks from today have him going 7th (GS), DraftExpress even has him going to Detroit at #9.
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Re: The Official Draft Thread 2: Judgement Day 

Post#710 » by JMac1 » Wed Jun 27, 2012 4:23 am

bwgood77 wrote:I've wanted Ross from the beginning but would be ok with Lamb...Waiters would be nice too. Weird thing about Ross was, until the last couple of days, I thought for sure he would be there, and then all of the sudden I've read a bunch of stuff saying he is the real sleeper.

I think many of these teams in the top 10 though are trying to scare lower teams into thinking they will take who that team is targeting in hopes they can trade down to get who they want (mainly Toronto and GS who want 3s.) I wouldn't be that surprised if on draft night one of those teams takes Waiters (if they still have their pick at that point) and we take who they want and we swap and give them something else.


Yea, so true. I think that is why our FO is being so "cryptic" with our info... No one knows what's up. I thought for sure Ross would be there as well. I love his Size, Shooting, athleticism, and defense potential.....plus he is a dark skin brotha, we need some of those in Phoenix; this ain't 70's :lol:
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Re: The Official Draft Thread 2: Judgement Day 

Post#711 » by JMac1 » Wed Jun 27, 2012 4:26 am

Kerrsed wrote:Wow, Drummond has been really sliding down the board since Lamb threw him under the bus. :o

Alot of the mocks from today have him going 7th (GS), DraftExpress even has him going to Detroit at #9.



I bet Lamb didn't even realize he was throwing him under the bus... :lol: That is another reason why I want Ross...Lamb............ :-? :lol:
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Re: The Official Draft Thread 2: Judgement Day 

Post#712 » by Kerrsed » Wed Jun 27, 2012 4:29 am

Jason Jones: 6-7 teams have had talks with Kings about the 5th pick that go beyond usal "would you move pick?" talk, per Geoff Petrie. via Twitter
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Re: The Official Draft Thread 2: Judgement Day 

Post#713 » by jredsaz » Wed Jun 27, 2012 4:43 am

This is kind of a downer. :o The new true hoop tv on the draft.

http://espn.go.com/video/clip?id=8099283
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Re: The Official Draft Thread 2: Judgement Day 

Post#714 » by JohnVancouver » Wed Jun 27, 2012 4:46 am

lilfishi22 wrote:
Get Nashty wrote:
lilfishi22 wrote:I still don't understand the term "motor"


Great motor - Kenneth Faried

Good motor - Gerald Wallace

Bad motor - Eddy Curry


Cheers mate. I thought it was a coordination thing.


What I don;t understand and never heard until this week is someone having a "wet" shot


?????
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Re: The Official Draft Thread 2: Judgement Day 

Post#715 » by JohnVancouver » Wed Jun 27, 2012 4:50 am

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Adrian Wojnarowski: Detroit has traded Ben Gordon and a protected future first-round pick to Charlotte for Corey Maggette, league sources tell Y! Sports. Twitter
CHARLOTTE BOBCATS, DETROIT PISTONS, DRAFT, TRADE, COREY MAGGETTE | SHARE


http://hoopshype.com/rumors.htm

Looks like they aren't going with Beal. Robinson looks pretty good there. Maybe Barnes.


Thats such a small backcourt! Kemba is 6"1 and Gordon is 6"2.

Walker/Gordon/Henderson/Robinson/Biyombo

Now Detroit has zero SG's (unless you count former PG Stuckey). Their lineup is a mess.

Knight/Bynum
Stuckey
Maggette/Prince/Daye
Jerebko/Villanueva
Monroe/


Just baffled by Charlotte's thinking - that's a lot of money and CMaggette could be unloaded at the deadline for a better deal.

anyone smarter than me who can explain the reasoning?
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Re: The Official Draft Thread 2: Judgement Day 

Post#716 » by jredsaz » Wed Jun 27, 2012 4:53 am

JohnVancouver wrote:What I don;t understand and never heard until this week is someone having a "wet" shot


?????


It is derived from "making it rain," as in someone can make a lot of threes. A wet shot describes a player with a great shot from deep.
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Re: The Official Draft Thread 2: Judgement Day 

Post#717 » by bwgood77 » Wed Jun 27, 2012 4:53 am

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Kerrsed wrote:
jredsaz wrote:
Thats such a small backcourt! Kemba is 6"1 and Gordon is 6"2.

Walker/Gordon/Henderson/Robinson/Biyombo

Now Detroit has zero SG's (unless you count former PG Stuckey). Their lineup is a mess.

Knight/Bynum
Stuckey
Maggette/Prince/Daye
Jerebko/Villanueva
Monroe/


Just baffled by Charlotte's thinking - that's a lot of money and CMaggette could be unloaded at the deadline for a better deal.

anyone smarter than me who can explain the reasoning?


Yes, John Hollinger...

The real action comes through the draft pick and the money changing hands. Charlotte now has a potential lottery pick in 2014 or 2015, and the cost is the difference in salary (about $14 million). Normally, that would be an excessive price to pay, but these aren't normal times. The Bobcats may not hit the league's salary floor in 2013-14, let alone the cap, so the $13.2 million that Gordon adds to their payroll in that season doesn't stand to hurt them much since they needed to add a bunch of salary anyway. In that sense, they really paid far less than $14 million for the draft pick.


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Re: The Official Draft Thread 2: Judgement Day 

Post#718 » by JohnVancouver » Wed Jun 27, 2012 4:55 am

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JohnVancouver wrote:What I don;t understand and never heard until this week is someone having a "wet" shot


?????


It is derived from "making it rain," as in someone can make a lot of threes. A wet shot describes a player with a great shot from deep.


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Re: The Official Draft Thread 2: Judgement Day 

Post#719 » by Gorilla Warfare » Wed Jun 27, 2012 5:00 am

JohnVancouver wrote:What I don;t understand and never heard until this week is someone having a "wet" shot


?????


Ray Allen - wet shot

Steve Nash - wet shot

Reggie Miller - thoroughly moist shot.
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Re: The Official Draft Thread 2: Judgement Day 

Post#720 » by bwgood77 » Wed Jun 27, 2012 5:07 am

Here is the reason I think Cleveland is working out Ross tomorrow.....

It's been rumored all day that Houston was trying to trade 14 and 16 to Sac for #5, but Sac keeps denying it will happen.

So what is the next logical thing to happen? Houston goes for #4...so Cleveland maybe doesn't make a quick decision but decides to entertain it and see if they can possibly get that shooter they wanted in Barnes or Beal, but maybe get two assets (like maybe Ross and Harkless?)

Would you rather have Barnes or Ross and Harkless? (if you are in Cleveland's shoes)

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