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Post#1 » by LongLiveHinkie » Thu Feb 28, 2008 4:50 am

Hey guys. I'm just a basketball fan, but the Suns are on TV a lot so I watch them. I had an opinion on the Suns and I just wanted to see if you guys think the same thing in Suns' nation or not.

When everyone looks at the Suns, they always say they need help in the front court, front court. That is all you hear. But watching them, I've always thought that their biggest need was a 2 guard who can both drive inside and shoot consistently from the outside. Like a Michael Redd type would IMO be absolutely perfect on your team.

I've seen Raja Bell bell hot some nights, off the others. Diaw isn't really a great mid-ranged shooter. Barbosa can hit a shot sometimes, but not consistently enough.

I think you guys just need a stud 2 guard somewhere who can both drive and shoot from the outside consistently. Like a Michael Redd/Ray Allen. A player like that.

Do you Suns fans agree with this at all or no? Not a criticism, just an observation. I always enjoy watching the Suns play. They are a treat.

Good luck the rest of the way.
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Post#2 » by Nash to Amare » Thu Feb 28, 2008 4:52 am

agree 100094350392% but its gonna be tough to get a real good shooting guard in here with the cap situation and no real appealing trade assets
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Post#3 » by TASTIC » Thu Feb 28, 2008 6:10 am

Yeah I like the Shaq trade despite the current results, but I can't help but think we'd look mighty decent if we could have moved Marion+Banks for Redd+Villanueva+CBell+Ruffin/Sessions...
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Post#4 » by chrice » Thu Feb 28, 2008 6:47 am

Suns could use a lot of things. As you mentioned a 2 guard that can spread the floor. Although I think the Suns need a guard who can do a little but of everything, like Pierce or Joe Johnson. They can both rebound and are tough defenders, Pierce would be a threat attacking the a basket, and JJ knows how to distribute the ball.

The second thing would be a mobile center that can run the floor. Like a KG or healthy JO who can get back in transition really quick. Dr. Swat would probably work too.

Third, Lebron James.
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Post#5 » by nashill » Thu Feb 28, 2008 6:53 am

im still hoping bell will be back to his 2006 form when he had a good 3 point shooting percentage. but sometimes i think he is overrated defensively. we need a bowen type of a player who focus on defense but can shoot 3s.
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Post#6 » by ChocolateThundr » Thu Feb 28, 2008 8:35 am

What happened to that guy who now plays for the Atlanta Hawks named Joe Johnson?
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Post#7 » by Ballings7 » Thu Feb 28, 2008 8:52 am

A top-level SG/SF scorer has definitely been one of the Suns needs since Joe Johnson left.

But just as much, is a significant defensive big man to protect the paint. Kurt Thomas didn't really fit this, because he isn't enough of a shot-alterer to be the main defensive big man (let alone the only defensive big man on the team, where depth issues came into play). As was seen (and known generally), Kurt's strength is other areas of defense, rather than changing shots around the basket and blocking shots.

A JO, Haywood, Dalembert, Okafor, Diop (yeah, weak offensively, but a stand-out defender), Zo (of the last couple years), Dampier, Chandler kind of big man is what's needed.

Shaq's a presence, but has been a limited defender for a little while now, and now only is going to be in a lesser role compared to last season (minutes-wise). While getting older.
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Post#8 » by TASTIC » Thu Feb 28, 2008 9:07 am

I'd like Diop here for a part of the MLE...he has a nose for the ball and those long arms that always cause center's issues when down in the post
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Post#9 » by -SDU- » Thu Feb 28, 2008 9:23 am

ChocolateThundr wrote:What happened to that guy who now plays for the Atlanta Hawks named Joe Johnson?


he had a cry about wanting to be "the man" then got trade, after that im not sure what happened to him given that i only watch teams who actually win more than they lose
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Post#10 » by CB4MiamiHeat » Thu Feb 28, 2008 10:14 am

Ballings7 wrote:A top-level SG/SF scorer has definitely been one of the Suns needs since Joe Johnson left.

But just as much, is a significant defensive big man to protect the paint. Kurt Thomas didn't really fit this, because he isn't enough of a shot-alterer to be the main defensive big man (let alone the only defensive big man on the team, where depth issues came into play). As was seen (and known generally), Kurt's strength is other areas of defense, rather than changing shots around the basket and blocking shots.

A JO, Haywood, Dalembert, Okafor, Diop (yeah, weak offensively, but a stand-out defender), Zo (of the last couple years), Dampier, Chandler kind of big man is what's needed.

Shaq's a presence, but has been a limited defender for a little while now, and now only is going to be in a lesser role compared to last season (minutes-wise). While getting older.


i never thought about it...Zo would be perfect with the Suns
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Post#11 » by nba_addict » Thu Feb 28, 2008 2:07 pm

Is there a way we can swap Diaw for Nocioni?

If we can just revert back time I would have traded Marion/Diaw for Chandler/Nocioni back then. :banghead:
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Post#12 » by guaves13 » Thu Feb 28, 2008 2:18 pm

If LB doesn't improve on the defensive end I wouldn't be surprised to see them try to deal him for a bigger wing.
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Post#13 » by Dr. Laker » Thu Feb 28, 2008 4:21 pm

I was scared that you all were going to trade Diaw/ATL #1 for Dalembert. I was ecstatic when you traded for Shaq instead. Mostly because you lost Marion, who was the one player the Lakers could never account for ...
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Post#14 » by Phoenix1977 » Thu Feb 28, 2008 4:51 pm

Dr. Laker wrote:I was scared that you all were going to trade Diaw/ATL #1 for Dalembert. I was ecstatic when you traded for Shaq instead. Mostly because you lost Marion, who was the one player the Lakers could never account for ...


No...Barbosa is the one Sun who the Lakers cannot account for. Marion, in the playoffs, is an entirely different player for some reason. Although you probably are just remembering game 6 rebound and the Tim Thomas kick out. I don't blame you.
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Post#15 » by rsavaj » Thu Feb 28, 2008 5:14 pm

We should sign KT this summer....

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