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Re: Why do they still have the tag team tittle? 

Post#21 » by loserX » Mon Sep 13, 2010 8:30 pm

VintaGe36 wrote:What is everyone's thoughts on brief tag-teams like "Rated RKO"?


Can be fun to watch, but dislike in principle. They serve only to get the "over" stars even more over, so they just squash the legit tag teams and make the division even more laughable. If two guys picked out of a hat can spontaneously team up and beat all the actual teams, then what's the point?
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Re: Why do they still have the tag team tittle? 

Post#22 » by CapeCrusader » Mon Sep 13, 2010 8:35 pm

Rated RKO was a good idea, but made no sense when they were both stars at that point.
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Re: Why do they still have the tag team tittle? 

Post#23 » by Stanford » Mon Sep 13, 2010 8:42 pm

The point was to combine forces against DX. Rated-RKO actually worked.
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Re: Why do they still have the tag team tittle? 

Post#24 » by 5th pick sucks » Wed Sep 15, 2010 5:15 am

Yeah, After DX and Rated RKO broke up, the division became crap.
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Re: Why do they still have the tag team tittle? 

Post#25 » by Celtics_Champs » Wed Sep 15, 2010 12:38 pm

I liked rated-rko.

They should sign Petey Williams (he's doing the indy circuit now) and pair him up with another Canadian wrestler. Have them come over as a heel tag team saying that the hart dynasty is not the best tag team from Canada, they are.
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Re: Why do they still have the tag team tittle? 

Post#26 » by CapeCrusader » Wed Sep 15, 2010 5:56 pm

Celtics_Champs wrote:I liked rated-rko.

They should sign Petey Williams (he's doing the indy circuit now) and pair him up with another Canadian wrestler. Have them come over as a heel tag team saying that the hart dynasty is not the best tag team from Canada, they are.


Does the WWE have a Canadian wrestler to pair him up with thats not in the main event? Like in FCW?
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Re: Why do they still have the tag team tittle? 

Post#27 » by Cliff Levingston » Wed Sep 15, 2010 8:32 pm

The WWE buried titles before (Light Heavyweight, Cruiserweight, Hardcore, European), so why not bury the tag team titles as well? They are completely pointless, and the Hart Dynasty is buried on the mid-card with Ted DiBiase. Before the Hart Dynasty won them, it was two clear singles wrestlers teaming (JeriShow, then ShowMiz). Why bother having any belts at all? Just get down to a women's title, two world titles and the IC and US titles.
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Re: Why do they still have the tag team tittle? 

Post#28 » by Celtsfan1980 » Thu Sep 16, 2010 6:12 pm

sh00n wrote:most of the top guys in the business ever started off being parts of great tag teams and their individual talent and getting over caused them to be pushed hard for the rest of the careers (Bret & Shawn, best examples).

Which other examples are there though? I can't think of too many. Maybe Undertaker but even there his time in the Skyscrapers tag team was very limited.
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Re: Why do they still have the tag team tittle? 

Post#29 » by sh00n » Thu Sep 16, 2010 6:18 pm

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sh00n wrote:most of the top guys in the business ever started off being parts of great tag teams and their individual talent and getting over caused them to be pushed hard for the rest of the careers (Bret & Shawn, best examples).

Which other examples are there though? I can't think of too many. Maybe Undertaker but even there his time in the Skyscrapers tag team was very limited.

Stone Cold, Booker T, Edge, Christian, and arguably Scott Steiner and Jeff Hardy. There's probably more examples out there, but those are a few off the top of my head.
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Re: Why do they still have the tag team tittle? 

Post#30 » by Celtsfan1980 » Thu Sep 16, 2010 6:38 pm

sh00n wrote:Stone Cold, Booker T, Edge, Christian, and arguably Scott Steiner and Jeff Hardy. There's probably more examples out there, but those are a few off the top of my head.

You could probably add Sting to that list as well. Many of them are more mid-carders rather than main eventers, but I guess there are more than I thought.
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Re: Why do they still have the tag team tittle? 

Post#31 » by Brandon-Clyde » Thu Sep 16, 2010 8:22 pm

Cliff Levingston wrote:The WWE buried titles before (Light Heavyweight, Cruiserweight, Hardcore, European), so why not bury the tag team titles as well? They are completely pointless, and the Hart Dynasty is buried on the mid-card with Ted DiBiase. Before the Hart Dynasty won them, it was two clear singles wrestlers teaming (JeriShow, then ShowMiz). Why bother having any belts at all? Just get down to a women's title, two world titles and the IC and US titles.

All those titles you mention were third tier singles titles at best and even when on the line added little to a match. The WORLD tag titles though while not being on the level of a world singles title can add a good deal to a match between two good tag teams
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Re: Why do they still have the tag team tittle? 

Post#32 » by Cliff Levingston » Thu Sep 16, 2010 8:59 pm

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Cliff Levingston wrote:The WWE buried titles before (Light Heavyweight, Cruiserweight, Hardcore, European), so why not bury the tag team titles as well? They are completely pointless, and the Hart Dynasty is buried on the mid-card with Ted DiBiase. Before the Hart Dynasty won them, it was two clear singles wrestlers teaming (JeriShow, then ShowMiz). Why bother having any belts at all? Just get down to a women's title, two world titles and the IC and US titles.

All those titles you mention were third tier singles titles at best and even when on the line added little to a match. The WORLD tag titles though while not being on the level of a world singles title can add a good deal to a match between two good tag teams

If they're not going to build the titles to be prestigious, then why have them? In other words, would you get excited to see Hart Dynasty vs. the Usos right now for the titles? Nope. Both teams are barely on TV and the titles are barely contested. Same thing with the US title right now; Miz hasn't defended it in months. Cliff Levingston is looking forward to Danielson/Miz at NOC but the last reason why is because the title is on the line.

They've done a better job with the Intercontinental title as Kofi/Dolph have hotly contested it lately, but before that they've got McIntyre, Dolph, Kofi and even Mysterio in on it.

As long as we're on the topic, it's pretty funny how the World Title is totally secondary to the Kane/Taker feud right now. If you don't stop and think about it, you lose track of that little fact. Maybe it has something to do with the fact that Kane shouldn't ever be your world champion, but whatever.
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Re: Why do they still have the tag team tittle? 

Post#33 » by Stanford » Thu Sep 16, 2010 9:44 pm

The Tag Championships have infinitely more history than those other titles.

The European Championship was only around for five years.
The Light Heavyweight Championship wasn't recognized by the WWF until 97 and only lasted four years
The Cruiserweight Championship was a WCW title until '01
The Hardcore championship was a joke, and only had a four year run.

The WW(W)F/E has had a Tag Team title since 1971. That's almost forty years of history. The combined years of all four of the titles you mentioned is 18 years.

If they did away with the Intercontinental championship, then I could see your point. But as of now there's no precedent for getting rid of a title with as much history as the tag titles.
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Re: Why do they still have the tag team tittle? 

Post#34 » by VintaGe36 » Thu Sep 16, 2010 10:31 pm

Is WWE that dense?

hmmm, an underwhelming tag-team division..

and too many mid-carders for the main-event scene..

WHAT EVER ARE WE TO DO!?
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Re: Why do they still have the tag team tittle? 

Post#35 » by skbucks1985 » Thu Sep 16, 2010 11:23 pm

VintaGe36 wrote:Is WWE that dense?

hmmm, an underwhelming tag-team division..

and too many mid-carders for the main-event scene..

WHAT EVER ARE WE TO DO!?


I think we've had this argument earlier in this thread and *spoiler alert* WWE is doing something about this as THD are facing a couple of singles mid-card guys at NOC.

But I'll repeat what I said earlier and say that I'm not really a fan of the whole putting together two singles guys to make a tag team. It works sometimes, but it usually fails more often than not
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Re: Why do they still have the tag team tittle? 

Post#36 » by Brandon-Clyde » Fri Sep 17, 2010 6:01 am

Cliff Levingston wrote:
Brandon-Clyde wrote:
Cliff Levingston wrote:The WWE buried titles before (Light Heavyweight, Cruiserweight, Hardcore, European), so why not bury the tag team titles as well? They are completely pointless, and the Hart Dynasty is buried on the mid-card with Ted DiBiase. Before the Hart Dynasty won them, it was two clear singles wrestlers teaming (JeriShow, then ShowMiz). Why bother having any belts at all? Just get down to a women's title, two world titles and the IC and US titles.

All those titles you mention were third tier singles titles at best and even when on the line added little to a match. The WORLD tag titles though while not being on the level of a world singles title can add a good deal to a match between two good tag teams

If they're not going to build the titles to be prestigious, then why have them? In other words, would you get excited to see Hart Dynasty vs. the Usos right now for the titles? Nope. Both teams are barely on TV and the titles are barely contested. Same thing with the US title right now; Miz hasn't defended it in months. Cliff Levingston is looking forward to Danielson/Miz at NOC but the last reason why is because the title is on the line.

They've done a better job with the Intercontinental title as Kofi/Dolph have hotly contested it lately, but before that they've got McIntyre, Dolph, Kofi and even Mysterio in on it.

As long as we're on the topic, it's pretty funny how the World Title is totally secondary to the Kane/Taker feud right now. If you don't stop and think about it, you lose track of that little fact. Maybe it has something to do with the fact that Kane shouldn't ever be your world champion, but whatever.

This is more a case of WWE mismanagement than anything else. Most of the best feuds have used a title as the basis for the feud. HBK vs Bret Hart started out as a feud for the WWE title,Stone Cold-Rock feud began over the IC title,Stone Cold-Angle was begun over the title,British Bulldogs-Hart Foundation was a title driven feud,the Hardy boys vs Edge and Christian title driven. Stop the mismanagement and things will befine
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Re: Why do they still have the tag team tittle? 

Post#37 » by sh00n » Fri Sep 17, 2010 2:40 pm

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sh00n wrote:Stone Cold, Booker T, Edge, Christian, and arguably Scott Steiner and Jeff Hardy. There's probably more examples out there, but those are a few off the top of my head.

You could probably add Sting to that list as well. Many of them are more mid-carders rather than main eventers, but I guess there are more than I thought.

Yeah Sting would work too. And if you really want to get bare bones about it you could add Taker and Warrior on there too, though they weren't parts of "great" tag teams.
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