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Re: Trading Dame? 

Post#101 » by GEE » Sun Jul 3, 2022 5:13 pm

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I have no problem pulling or not making the offer, frankly I do not want a 35/36 yr old Dame making 55 mil per yr, yeah let's hamstring the team even more. I would trade him if a good deal came along now or more likely at the deadline or next summer - my opinion is this team will not do anything as far as the playoffs go as currently constructed. Also, wouldn't it make it harder to trade him with that extension? Nothing against Dame as he has been a great player to watch and a good guy, but at day's end it is a business. I'd also like to see him have a better chance to win a title and as I said I don't see it happening here, so a trade for me is a win/win for Dame and the Blazers



This is exactly what I've been feeling for some time now. I have a hard time believing, while playing alongside Simons and under Chauncey... Dame's value will increase in the minds of the true NBA GMs. They know what they are getting in Dame. But he is not Durrant or Bron, and can't make the same demands regarding where he might go if traded. While a ton of teams would surely want to trade for Dame, I'd imagine only a handful of teams NOW, will want him at his cost... especially if extended.

I honestly feel like our team has really changed for the better in alot of ways since Olshey and Stotts were sent packing. I also feel our roster can compete quite soon, IF, we only had a really good addition at the PF. I would definitely make a trade for that stud PF using Dame. Rebuild complete! Give me a Ben Simmons and a good lottery pick, and I do the trade yesterday. I'd even be willing to stomach Westbrick for a year if that's what it takes.

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Re: Trading Dame? 

Post#102 » by Case2012 » Sun Jul 3, 2022 5:33 pm

To me he’s saying GO GET DURANT in the most public way possible. It’s the Brooklyn bridge in that photo he posted.

Olshey got fired because he would not make moves, now Olshey’s protege is doing just what his boss taught him.

The loyalty has an expiration is a pretty implicit demand to get Durant or I want out.

Cronin simply overpaying for his own free agents instead of working on a S&T for Durant is the same as Dame asking for help and getting Mclemore and Zeller all over again.

Grant and GP2 are good role players but Dame wants a star. If we had lifted the protections on the pick owed to CHI we could’ve sent as many picks as possible to Brooklyn along with 7, the tpe, and Bledsoe, Little, Johnson, and Simons but instead we’re running it back after more slightly better than mediocre upgrades defensively.

I DO NOT want Dame traded but the blazers organization is a clown show top to bottom so I wouldn’t be mad if he asked out.
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Re: Trading Dame? 

Post#103 » by wco81 » Sun Jul 3, 2022 5:41 pm

Nets may demand an all-NBA player.

Failing that, they could get all stars like Bridges from the Suns, as well as Ayton, who may not be good enough to win a title but can play well deep into the playoffs.

I don't think #7 pick is enough to offset that.
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Post#104 » by Case2012 » Sun Jul 3, 2022 6:33 pm

wco81 wrote:Nets may demand an all-NBA player.

Failing that, they could get all stars like Bridges from the Suns, as well as Ayton, who may not be good enough to win a title but can play well deep into the playoffs.

I don't think #7 pick is enough to offset that.



Players that have agreed to sign new deals can’t for a few more days. If the blazers lifted their protections on the pick owed to CHI, they could send Simons, Sharpe (in 28 days), Nas, Keon, and Bledsoe, plus 4 firsts and swaps to BK for KD and Curry.

That would leave PDX

Dame/ GP
Hart/ Curry
Grant/ Winslow
KD/ Watford
Nurk/ Eubanks

That’s a contender.

We would still have the BAE, and the roco tpe.
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Re: Trading Dame? 

Post#105 » by BlazersBroncos » Sun Jul 3, 2022 9:51 pm

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wco81 wrote:Nets may demand an all-NBA player.

Failing that, they could get all stars like Bridges from the Suns, as well as Ayton, who may not be good enough to win a title but can play well deep into the playoffs.

I don't think #7 pick is enough to offset that.



Players that have agreed to sign new deals can’t for a few more days. If the blazers lifted their protections on the pick owed to CHI, they could send Simons, Sharpe (in 28 days), Nas, Keon, and Bledsoe, plus 4 firsts and swaps to BK for KD and Curry.

That would leave PDX

Dame/ GP
Hart/ Curry
Grant/ Winslow
KD/ Watford
Nurk/ Eubanks

That’s a contender.

We would still have the BAE, and the roco tpe.


Would love this, but I think KD has a new team by that time. Hope I am wrong.

Certainly think Ant, Sharpe, Little and picks is better for a full rebuild than the PHX and TOR packages.

Ant and Simmons in theory is a hell of a complimentary duo.

Would be surprised if anything impactful happened at this point - I think this is our roster.
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Re: Trading Dame? 

Post#106 » by Case2012 » Sun Jul 3, 2022 11:22 pm

I think Golden State has the best package. Wiggins, moody, wiseman, poole and kuminga plus a couple picks would do it.

There's a lot of blow it up and trade people on here, but that Dame ig post was really concerning.

Either he meant trade for KD and finally get me an all star to play with or I'm asking out... Or if you don't ofter me that extension send me to brkln to play with KD.

I'm not sure which one it is, but either way he wants to play KD REALLY bad, and if Cronin isn't doing everything he can to get him here then he's an idiot.
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Re: Trading Dame? 

Post#107 » by m0ng0 » Mon Jul 4, 2022 3:02 am

The extension was already offered and his crew said nope, we are going to wait and see what happens.

I read since Nurk and Simon's signed new contracts we could not trade them if we wanted to until mid season (could be wrong) maybe Wiz could fill in the blanks there?

Having said all that what does team Dame expect us to do to get KD? And if that does not make him happy than what?
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Re: Trading Dame? 

Post#108 » by Blazinaway » Mon Jul 4, 2022 3:25 am

Here's a huge question I almost never see asked - IS DAME A BILLUPS TYPE PLAYER? My personal answer is no and can/will Dame change his game at 32? Dame is a lousy defender and likes to walk the ball up the court, Billups wants his players to play hard at BOTH ends and push the ball up the court - IMO they really don't mesh.
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Post#109 » by Case2012 » Mon Jul 4, 2022 3:27 am

I thought FA couldn’t sign their deals until the 10th, after the moratorium ends. In the meantime, they could agree to a sign and trade to BK if they wanted.
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Re: Trading Dame? 

Post#110 » by soobias » Mon Jul 4, 2022 4:15 am

Blazinaway wrote:Here's a huge question I almost never see asked - IS DAME A BILLUPS TYPE PLAYER? My personal answer is no and can/will Dame change his game at 32? Dame is a lousy defender and likes to walk the ball up the court, Billups wants his players to play hard at BOTH ends and push the ball up the court - IMO they really don't mesh.





i think i mentioned this somewhere in the middle of last season and i agree and i think most coach want that.
thats to me why GSW have had 1 coach this long and LeBron goes through coaches ever so often.
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Re: Trading Dame? 

Post#111 » by Norm2953 » Mon Jul 4, 2022 9:05 am

Teams have been known to keep the player and dump the coach and Stotts is still unemployed..

I just feel however even if Portland traded for KD, it still wouldn't be enough. Those top 3-4 teams
in the west (GSW, Memphis, Phoenix and the LAC) are just loaded and have a lot of depth to
withstand injuries. Portland is still one major Nurk injury from being a lottery team and Portland
would have to send out too many depth pieces to get him.

Meanwhile if Dame were eventually dealt, Portland would have Ant, Hart, Sharpe and GP2 in
their back court along with Little, Grant, Winslow at forward with Nurk at center plus whatever
they get in trade.
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Re: Trading Dame? 

Post#112 » by Wizenheimer » Mon Jul 4, 2022 4:09 pm

Blazinaway wrote:Here's a huge question I almost never see asked - IS DAME A BILLUPS TYPE PLAYER? .


OF COURSE HE IS, because Billups isn't stupid enough to not want a top-10ish player because his defense is limited. If Billups can't takes advantage of Dame's offensive brilliance & leadership and work around the few limitations Dame has he doesn't deserve a head coaching job
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Re: Trading Dame? 

Post#113 » by Norm2953 » Mon Jul 4, 2022 5:53 pm

The thing is though, Ant is Chauncey's guy for his game just took off after his arrival and after Dame
sat out the rest of the season. Its no coincidence Nurk was playing as well he's played in years with Ant
and guys like Hart/Winslow and others were effective.

Likely Chauncey could work with Dame but it would be Chauncey adapting his system to what Dame wants
to do and likely we'd see Dame/Grant doing most of the scoring, much like Dame/CJ without the ball
movement we saw when Ant was the PG.
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Re: Trading Dame? 

Post#114 » by zzaj » Mon Jul 4, 2022 6:04 pm

Wizenheimer wrote:
Blazinaway wrote:Here's a huge question I almost never see asked - IS DAME A BILLUPS TYPE PLAYER? .


OF COURSE HE IS, because Billups isn't stupid enough to not want a top-10ish player because his defense is limited. If Billups can't takes advantage of Dame's offensive brilliance & leadership and work around the few limitations Dame has he doesn't deserve a head coaching job


Lol, yeah…the better question is, “Is Chauncey a Lillard type of coach?”

THAT is the question that needed to be addressed.
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Re: Trading Dame? 

Post#115 » by DeBlazerRiddem » Mon Jul 4, 2022 6:23 pm

Can we see what Billups does with a healthy Lillard before declaring it doesn't work and shipping one of them off?


and if it comes to heads I stick with Dame 10/10 times
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Re: Trading Dame? 

Post#116 » by m0ng0 » Thu Jul 7, 2022 5:25 pm

Maybe instead of fruitlessly trying to get Durant here, maybe try and get Dame to BKN? What could a 3 way trade get us for the future? Dame gets a legit shot at a ring...just a thought
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Post#117 » by DeBlazerRiddem » Thu Jul 7, 2022 6:02 pm

m0ng0 wrote:Maybe instead of fruitlessly trying to get Durant here, maybe try and get Dame to BKN? What could a 3 way trade get us for the future? Dame gets a legit shot at a ring...just a thought


Outside of Durant they don't have anything close to worth Lillard.
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Re: Trading Dame? 

Post#118 » by JRoy » Thu Jul 7, 2022 6:04 pm

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m0ng0 wrote:Maybe instead of fruitlessly trying to get Durant here, maybe try and get Dame to BKN? What could a 3 way trade get us for the future? Dame gets a legit shot at a ring...just a thought


Outside of Durant they don't have anything close to worth Lillard.


They have no good picks and no good youth so that’s a no thanks from POR.
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Re: Trading Dame? 

Post#119 » by m0ng0 » Thu Jul 7, 2022 9:42 pm

JRoy wrote:
DeBlazerRiddem wrote:
m0ng0 wrote:Maybe instead of fruitlessly trying to get Durant here, maybe try and get Dame to BKN? What could a 3 way trade get us for the future? Dame gets a legit shot at a ring...just a thought


Outside of Durant they don't have anything close to worth Lillard.


They have no good picks and no good youth so that’s a no thanks from POR.


That's why I mentioned it as a 3 way trade, maybe there is another team out there willing to take on Kyrie or Simmons ? Just a thought.
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Re: Trading Dame? 

Post#120 » by thenbaman » Sat Jul 9, 2022 11:21 am

Case2012 wrote:
GEE wrote:Not a fan of Ayton, at any cost really. Would rather have Nurkic and IMHO, Willams from Duke by year 2 > Ayton without the "Point-God" CP3. OG just seems like a slightly better version of M.Harkless to me; A role player at best. I'm really tired of hearing about who Dame would like to have on the team. Definitely not making the GMs job easy, and should keep the teams' decisions on possible targets, quiet.


People really like to talk about what Dame wants and what dame says but i never see any quotes about that stuff or any credible sources and when he has something to say, he’s not shy about saying it. So I’m really tired of people saying he wants another 50 million a year extension and that he wants Ayton etc. If he wanted these things he would say it, there’s literally nothing in his history in Portland that refutes that. People need to understand what click bait is.

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