Summer 2023 Trade Thread

[Brandon-Clyde]

The Blazers could use a backup PG if they move Simons.

What do think of Skylar Mays as a backup pg?

I think I like Payton Pritchard.
… and Skylar Mays as the 3rd PG.

What would you give up for Pritchard?

[Norm2953]

I'd trade Wemby for Giannis, because it makes us legit contenders for a few years. Especially if Dame ages well. And Giannis is only 28. Though I don't think we need to include Sharpe in the package. Wemby is supposed to be one of those once in a decade prospects.

It would take Simons, Sharpe and the rights to Victor to get Milwaukee to pick up the phone. It's a solid
package but remember Giannis can walk in two years if he's willing to walk away from $51 million
for a third season. It's a big risk for the window to compete could be two seasons as opposed to just
keeping Sharpe/Victor for the next six seasons.

Teams are loathe to trade a potential generational talent for the Blazers did just that in 1977 when they
stupidly traded away Moses Malone

[JasonStern]

Going to be some disappointed Blazers fans starting next season.

Wouldn't mind bringing The People's Champ, Will Barton, back on veteran minimum contract. He's washed, but friends with Dame and still healthier than Little.

[GEE]

What do think of Skylar Mays as a backup pg?

I think I like Payton Pritchard.
… and Skylar Mays as the 3rd PG.

What would you give up for Pritchard?

I'd be in favor of a pursuit for Pritchard. Not sure what Boston would want, but we have 3 guys to offer that match($) in Knox, Walker and Keon. I think I would prefer Walker & 2 SRPs and hope they dig it too.

Dame / Simons / Pritchard
Sharpe / Thybulle / Keon
Grant / Little / Knox

That to me, 1 through 3, is just... Dreamy.

[DaVoiceMaster]

The Blazers could use a backup PG if they move Simons.

What do think of Skylar Mays as a backup pg?

Not sold yet. Let's see him this summer and if he does well, offer him a training camp invite. Would rather see a veteran fill that role.

[zzaj]

The Blazers could use a backup PG if they move Simons.

What do think of Skylar Mays as a backup pg?

I really like Mays…that might be because he actually plays like a PG, and we haven’t seen a good version of that besides Lillard in a very long time. He has all of the intangibles that CJ and Simons lack for the position. I hope he gets a shot, because I think he’ll quickly turn into a fan favorite with his ability to pass and be in the right place at the right time.

He’s seems to be one of those guys that might not put up stats, but rather leaves a subtle impact on the game that just doesn’t translate to #s…

[BlazersBroncos]

I would be fine w/ Mays as PG3 - but I dont have confidence in anyone on this roster handling the ball and distributing outside Dame and to a much lesser extent Winslow.

We need to improve our high level talent overall, but after that one of the most glaring weaknesses w/ this team is passing. We dont move the ball well - Simons is only above average distributing when playing PNR (Horrible open court vision and passing to cutters, not to mention simply getting the ball to the post) - Sharpe is a total ball of clay here and Grant just calls his number for a contested turn around more often than not.

[GEE]

HEADLINE: "Celtics on brink of elimination after game 5 loss", per Get Up/ESPN. I did not see this coming, though I guess that I should have with the year that Embiid has had. Celtics must win in Philly to stay alive, and I wouldn't bet big on that happening.

If the Cs can't pull off the unlikely, they are sure to get bombarded from all the same media experts from last year, with all the same chatter and talking points about how Brown and Tatum fit together. You know it's coming.

How good is Cronin? Could he end up impressing me by taking advantage of this (potentially desperate) situation the Celtics find themselves in. Remember, Ainge ain't there anymore. I see opportunity:

Dame / Nurkic / Winslow(vet min S&T) <<<--->>> Brown / Pritchard / TimeLord / Filler: White or Brogden.

- Reasons for BOS would be seeing Nurkic valuable as a win now piece to go up against Embiid, and will be willing to sacrifice youth to get it. Dame for Brown I see as a wash mostly, but I can't see a better infusion to next years playoff run for the Cs than this one. I honestly think it could put them finally over the top.
- Portland eats the contract of White or Brogden allowing the C's to pick their favorite. Either guy likely gets moved to a third team I'd think. Pick compensation to balance things out, maybe a FFRP. Only gets done obviously, if Dame wants it to, but it would land him with his buddy in Nurkic in Boston, on a team that will be the talk of the league for sure, and Dame will have a great chance at getting that ring.

I love this trade several times more than the BKN trade idea, but I never thought it would be possible. I had the Celtics pegged as my favorites to going all the way this year, or at least to the finals. Suns on the other side, which also may not happen. I want this soooooooooooooooooooo badly. We would be going small:

Simon / Pritchard / Keon
Sharpe / Thybulle / (White or Brogden)
Brown / Little / Knox
Grant / Watford
TimeLord / Eubanks / Walker

Not a finished roster above, as I'd look to immmediately trade White or Brogden to a 3rd team. We'd have whatever assett that brings (A Woods S&T off the top of my head would be fun), plus our lottery pick (Wemby) to use on another young big (For me it would be Mark Williams by adding more if needed), and we should be able to assemble something like this:

Simons / Pritchard / Keon
Sharpe / Thybulle
Brown / Little / Knox
Grant / Woods / Watford
TimeLord / Williams / Eubanks / Walker

Absolutely love this, and I don't think it's terribly difficult to do... if Dame likes Boston.

[zzaj]

I would be fine w/ Mays as PG3 - but I dont have confidence in anyone on this roster handling the ball and distributing outside Dame and to a much lesser extent Winslow.

We need to improve our high level talent overall, but after that one of the most glaring weaknesses w/ this team is passing. We dont move the ball well - Simons is only above average distributing when playing PNR (Horrible open court vision and passing to cutters, not to mention simply getting the ball to the post) - Sharpe is a total ball of clay here and Grant just calls his number for a contested turn around more often than not.

I just did a mini deep dive on Mays...he has a pretty clear marker at 15 mpg. Anything above that he plays well, anything below gets a little bit meh. He does have a mini sample size though. I watched some LSU when he was there and I remember being impressed with his BBIQ. I pretty much forgot about him until I saw one good ATL game where he put up like 20 pts. Then forgot about him again until he blew up in garbage time on Pdx.

If Lillard is around I'm not sure how many backup PG minutes there are...but if they are for Mays, hopefully 15 minutes

[Norm2953]

Just curious, what would Portland's offer to Toronto for Siakum would be if he were made available
by Toronto?

Would Toronto demand Sharpe as part of any trade for Siakum?

[tester551]

Just curious, what would Portland's offer to Toronto for Siakum would be if he were made available
by Toronto?

Would Toronto demand Sharpe as part of any trade for Siakum?

Given he is a pending FA, my max offer would be:
Ant + Little + 23

If Toronto would rather route Ant to Orlando for #11 + cap space -> that would be their call.

[Norm2953]

Just curious, what would Portland's offer to Toronto for Siakum would be if he were made available
by Toronto?

Would Toronto demand Sharpe as part of any trade for Siakum?

Given he is a pending FA, my max offer would be:
Ant + Little + 23

If Toronto would rather route Ant to Orlando for #11 + cap space -> that would be their call.

I doubt Toronto picks up the phone for Little is always injured.

Would Portland offer Sharpe in any deal for Siakum?

[GEE]

No, because in two years Sharpe will likely be far better than Siakam. Big, Athletic, Low-IQ players mostly coming out of Toronto, and BBIQ really matters to me. It's also why I have such a man crush for M.Williams.

I also think that due to Siakam's contract status, Simons, Little & #23 is a MASSIVE overpay, even if Siakam was THE GUY, which he IS NOT (imo). Props for the strategy though, and I mean that. LA12 volme 2 is what I'm hoping Cronin is targeting, because as many have pointed out, we've been without ever since he left. If Cronin thought Siakam is THE GUY, then a massive overpay would be just fine by me, but what I don't like here is offering up Simons unneccessarily. With that contract status and him not likely to return to TOR, they will be happy to get Little and #23 instead of losing Siakam for nothing, like with LA12. Huh... Ironic.

[Norm2953]

I'd agree with Gee's sentiments but the Dame crowd would not be happy if a 19 year old rookie is the big move this summer. To them, mortgaging the future is what Portland should do for Sharpe's best years are too late for Dame

[zzaj]

Siakam will do more for Ws than Simons (a lot more, IMHO) and #23. And until Little can stay on the court for more than half a season, I’ll consider him a non-factor. Players in suits don’t win games.

I feel like that package is pretty fair value if they make him available. That package could probably be beat, however.

[tester551]

Just curious, what would Portland's offer to Toronto for Siakum would be if he were made available
by Toronto?

Would Toronto demand Sharpe as part of any trade for Siakum?

Given he is a pending FA, my max offer would be:
Ant + Little + 23

If Toronto would rather route Ant to Orlando for #11 + cap space -> that would be their call.

I doubt Toronto picks up the phone for Little is always injured.

Would Portland offer Sharpe in any deal for Siakum?

Little is included solely as salary filler to make the trade legal. And the deal would have to occur after July 1, so Portland could utilize the bumped up salaries being sent out.
Siakam will make $37.9M => so Portland would have to send out a minimum of $30.3M Ant only makes $24.1M, so another player is needed. Nas' $6.2M contract barely fits to make it a legal trade.

Sharpe would not be available for Siakam.

[GEE]

I honestly don't think that Simons would be made available by Cronin in any trade that isn't bringing back a top 10-15 player. So I'd say no to any Siakam for Simons trade too, for the very same reason that I believe that in two short years, Simons will be getting mention for the All-Star games, where Siakam will continue to fade.

[Norm2953]

Siakum is a better fit in Portland than all those DDR trades I keep seeing for somebody has to
go get the ball for all the offensive minded players in Portland.

I have no doubt Simons can play but he's getting blamed for being a bad fit next to Dame.

[GEE]

Siakum is a better fit in Portland than all those DDR trades I keep seeing for somebody has to
go get the ball for all the offensive minded players in Portland.

I have no doubt Simons can play but he's getting blamed for being a bad fit next to Dame.

People around here have been pretty harsh on Chauncey I think, considering we were tanking for half of two seasons, but I've givin' him a pass up to this point. That all changes next season, and I will be right there with the others judging his job performance.

What I'm getting at is, It's going to be Chauney's #1 job figuring out how to best split Dame and Simons on the court. I figure it to be about 20 mpg that they will share the court (5 per quarter). We clearly tried it this year, but it didn't look great, but I think we had bigger roster issues to contend with as well, so I don't feel like we really got a true opportunity to see if it can work. Furthermore, threading that needle and figuring out the correct rotation would give us the best chances at winning it all. Simons should IMO be declared beaten out of that starting SG job by Sharpe. Problem is then mostly solved. A healthy and improved BIGS rotation would be the rest of the problem.

So to sum up, I think winning WITH Dame is still a possibility, but it depends on Dame's ability (or inability) to change his game on several levels, in order to have team success. Possible still, but it may be too late now. Dame did try hard early last season and the changes showed, but it didn''t last and I feel like he ended his season, just trying to get his. Not sure Dame will want to contunue trying to adapt to a Chauncey style, and will likely ask out. I think he may be testing waters during this offseason, as he's been spotted courtside at at least two diffierent playoff teams' games. Not Normal.

[Case2012]

For anyone that bets on DK, Siakam is insanely inconsistent and unpredictable. I wouldn’t want 19 6 and 4 for 40 million a year.