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Post#141 » by DusterBuster » Wed Jun 26, 2024 5:37 am

Case2012 wrote:I think Grant coasts quite a bit too. I mean how long has it been since he was in a position to compete? Bridges dropped off a lot but if we give him a pass then Grant should be too, at least at a talent level. Also as "bad" as his deal is, Bridges when he's 29 is going to get something like 200 million for 4 years. All I'm saying is Grant SHOULD get a better return than we initially thought.


I agree. I think Grant can get a solid return, probably a 1 for 2 where the two are lesser guys and maybe 2 first rounders of some sort. Basically, I think he can return a similar package to what Jrue returned with maybe slightly less quality picks.

I'm not saying Grant is a bad contact player or negative value, but you just cant compare Bridges to him in terms of trade value. Nets got what they got for Bridges because of things Grant can't replicate. Knicks were uber-motivated to get him given their roster makeup. Plenty of teams would love to have Grant, but none will have that same level of motivation to get him. Bridges' is the kind of ironman the league hasn't seen in some time (hasn't missed a game since HS for godssake), Grant gets fairly easily banged up.

So yeah, I'm not disagreeing with you, Grant should net positive return and I think this is the summer for the Blazers to move him. I don't think Grant will have higher value after this summer, but I don't see the comp between what the Nets just did and what the Blazers may do with Jerami.
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Post#142 » by The Sebastian Express » Wed Jun 26, 2024 6:24 am

Bridges is significantly better than Grant. He is all team defense level, is defensive player of the year candidate quality, he's a better passer, he's a better rebounder, he's younger, better ball-handler and creator.
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Post#143 » by Butter » Wed Jun 26, 2024 9:24 am

The Sebastian Express wrote:Bridges is significantly better than Grant. He is all team defense level, is defensive player of the year candidate quality, he's a better passer, he's a better rebounder, he's younger, better ball-handler and creator.


https://global.nba.com/players/vs/#!/mikal_bridges/jerami_grant

Stats don't tell the whole story, but offensively, Bridges isn't significantly better. One rebound, one assist better. Grant has better total scoring and percentages. Also, Grant is only 2 years older.

Defense is where Bridges stands out.
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Post#144 » by Waynearchetype » Wed Jun 26, 2024 3:29 pm

Butter wrote:
The Sebastian Express wrote:Bridges is significantly better than Grant. He is all team defense level, is defensive player of the year candidate quality, he's a better passer, he's a better rebounder, he's younger, better ball-handler and creator.


https://global.nba.com/players/vs/#!/mikal_bridges/jerami_grant

Stats don't tell the whole story, but offensively, Bridges isn't significantly better. One rebound, one assist better. Grant has better total scoring and percentages. Also, Grant is only 2 years older.

Defense is where Bridges stands out.


Which is frustrating because Grant was a great defender. Still is when he's engaged. He is mostly just content being average though.
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Post#145 » by PDXKnight » Wed Jun 26, 2024 4:03 pm

Waynearchetype wrote:
Butter wrote:
The Sebastian Express wrote:Bridges is significantly better than Grant. He is all team defense level, is defensive player of the year candidate quality, he's a better passer, he's a better rebounder, he's younger, better ball-handler and creator.


https://global.nba.com/players/vs/#!/mikal_bridges/jerami_grant

Stats don't tell the whole story, but offensively, Bridges isn't significantly better. One rebound, one assist better. Grant has better total scoring and percentages. Also, Grant is only 2 years older.

Defense is where Bridges stands out.


Which is frustrating because Grant was a great defender. Still is when he's engaged. He is mostly just content being average though.


I think jerami is super overrated defensively mostly because, as you said, the want to isnt there in other words

I do think having a chance to win changes that for him possibly. He could potentially be a huge get for the right suitor but who the right suitor is I'm not sure.
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Post#146 » by Jsun947 » Thu Jun 27, 2024 2:17 am

I'm on board now with trading him to whoever will give us future picks (Dallas, Lakers, OKC etc)
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Post#147 » by PDXKnight » Thu Jun 27, 2024 2:33 am

Jsun947 wrote:I'm on board now with trading him to whoever will give us future picks (Dallas, Lakers, OKC etc)


I have a feeling the kd/houston situation is holding up a lot of moves currently. Whether or not that happens will determine a lot of other factors
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Post#148 » by Jsun947 » Thu Jun 27, 2024 2:48 am

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Jsun947 wrote:I'm on board now with trading him to whoever will give us future picks (Dallas, Lakers, OKC etc)


I have a feeling the kd/houston situation is holding up a lot of moves currently. Whether or not that happens will determine a lot of other factors


I don't think anything is happening with KD. Paul George I think is holding things up more. Whoever doesn't get George will likely have Grant or Ingram as alternative options
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Post#149 » by PDXKnight » Thu Jun 27, 2024 2:59 am

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Jsun947 wrote:I'm on board now with trading him to whoever will give us future picks (Dallas, Lakers, OKC etc)


I have a feeling the kd/houston situation is holding up a lot of moves currently. Whether or not that happens will determine a lot of other factors


I don't think anything is happening with KD. Paul George I think is holding things up more. Whoever doesn't get George will likely have Grant or Ingram as alternative options


I bet la pays george. The holdup is only year 4
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Post#150 » by Jsun947 » Thu Jun 27, 2024 3:05 am

PDXKnight wrote:
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PDXKnight wrote:
I have a feeling the kd/houston situation is holding up a lot of moves currently. Whether or not that happens will determine a lot of other factors


I don't think anything is happening with KD. Paul George I think is holding things up more. Whoever doesn't get George will likely have Grant or Ingram as alternative options


I bet la pays george. The holdup is only year 4


I agree, the downside of not keeping him is too big
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Post#151 » by DusterBuster » Thu Jun 27, 2024 5:39 am

PDXKnight wrote:
Jsun947 wrote:I'm on board now with trading him to whoever will give us future picks (Dallas, Lakers, OKC etc)


I have a feeling the kd/houston situation is holding up a lot of moves currently. Whether or not that happens will determine a lot of other factors


I don't actually think KD/Houston is really a thing.

I think teams are just waiting for FA to get underway. Once the dust has settled there, teams will be more aggressive to make moves if they missed out on things.

One issue that could negatively impact Grant is Kuzma being available on the market as well. Both teams aren't exactly angling to win and both guys fill the same sort of need for contenders.
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Re: Grant Trade? 

Post#152 » by DusterBuster » Mon Jul 1, 2024 2:27 am

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This might be outdated info from the draft, but also could be the teams picking up conversations that happened at draft time and just got shelved til FA.
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Post#153 » by PDXKnight » Mon Jul 1, 2024 3:07 am

DusterBuster wrote:
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This might be outdated info from the draft, but also could be the teams picking up conversations that happened at draft time and just got shelved til FA.


La is working on signing Klay maybe. Probably a cap issue if something is agreed upon. La's Gotta make the signing and then formalize
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Post#154 » by Norm2953 » Mon Jul 1, 2024 4:03 am

This might be the MLE signing they wish to make if they can save enough money after trading for Grant.

It'll be interesting to see if they can get the Blazers to take enough filler in a Grant deal to make this
all possible. Blazers would get Knecht for their trouble
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Post#155 » by PDXKnight » Mon Jul 1, 2024 4:54 am

What's so special about knect? They better be tossing in an unprotected future first for all that trouble
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Post#156 » by Walton1one » Mon Jul 1, 2024 4:52 pm

Nothing in particular, although I think he could be a good outside shooter to have as an outlet for Scoot\Clingan\Avdija.

I think that LAL is reluctant to give up two first round picks for Grant, so I think POR should ask for the 29’ 1st & then 1-2 pick swaps in 28’/30’/31’ and then Knecht
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Post#157 » by BlazersBroncos » Mon Jul 1, 2024 5:34 pm

I think a 29 FRP with no or minimal protections and a future protected swap is more than enough for Grant.
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Post#158 » by Norm2953 » Mon Jul 1, 2024 6:37 pm

Lakers need to move some salary off their books in order to try to sign Klay at the MLE.

Any Grant trade will likely need a lot of filler before it gets done. Portland has no need for
Vanderbilt, Vincent, Rui, etc for they can just wait for a better deal.
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Post#159 » by Norm2953 » Mon Jul 1, 2024 6:45 pm

I see Klay signed with Dallas.

With Lebron headed to the Olympics, will the Lakers panic and reach for guys like Grant?
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Post#160 » by PDXKnight » Mon Jul 1, 2024 7:08 pm

Norm2953 wrote:I see Klay signed with Dallas.

With Lebron headed to the Olympics, will the Lakers panic and reach for guys like Grant?


Maybe so to keep lebron happy.

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