Portland - 2016 Offseason

[tester551]

Plan A: Sign top notch UFA (Durant/LeBron/Horford)
Plan B: Sign RFA to the max (Drummond/Barnes... Beal?)
Plan C: Sign a risky UFA to a max (DeRozen/Whiteside/Anderson/Batum/Parsons)
Plan D: Spread the wealth around on high-end role players.

I've seen a lot of people suggest trying to sign Horford. I just don't get that...

Admittedly I'm not an avid Hawks fan, so I haven't watched him a ton. However, he really hasn't stood out as "impacting" the game when I have caught Hawk games. It appears he has decent (not great) advanced stats, so maybe I have just caught watching him on off nights.

[Wizenheimer]

Plan A: Sign top notch UFA (Durant/LeBron/Horford)
Plan B: Sign RFA to the max (Drummond/Barnes... Beal?)
Plan C: Sign a risky UFA to a max (DeRozen/Whiteside/Anderson/Batum/Parsons)
Plan D: Spread the wealth around on high-end role players.

I've seen a lot of people suggest trying to sign Horford. I just don't get that...

Admittedly I'm not an avid Hawks fan, so I haven't watched him a ton. However, he really hasn't stood out as "impacting" the game when I have caught Hawk games. It appears he has decent (not great) advanced stats, so maybe I have just caught watching him on off nights.

it's true there are some amber flashing lights on Horford. His rebounding rate and FT rate have declined the last 3 seasons. His FG% is down but that's because he increased his 3 pt attempts from 0.5 a game to 3.1 a game. I really didn't like finding his FT rate being .123...that's pretty bad

now, if you put his advanced metrics against this years Blazer team, Horford ranks 2nd in PER, 1st in Win Shares, 2nd in WinShares/48, 2nd in defensive box plus/minus, 1st in box plus/minus, and 1st in Value over replacement

Horford is still a good and versatile defender, and this season, per36, he averaged 17 points, 8 rebs, & 3.6 assists with only 1.5 turnovers. That's a 2.4 assist/turnover ratio which would also be 1st on the Blazers.

He can play either C or PF and maybe more importantly, he could play with either Plumlee or Davis, which isn't true for a lot of bigs, at least not under Stotts

[Case2012]

Dame/bayless
CJ/Korver
Barnes/Harkless
Anderson/Aminu/Vonleah
Plumlee/Davis/Leonard

Stotts would have a field day with that line up.

Let Hendo, Montero, Kaman, Roberts, Crabbe and Alexander walk. Dream offseason.

If only the salary cap was ~130 million....

We couldnt sign Barnes, anderson, harkless, and Korver (Is korver a FA this year?) for 60 million in cap space? I threw in Leonard because there's no way he gets a good deal after stinking it up this year and having a season ending injury on the same shoulder he's injured 2 or 3 times already.

[Jsun947]

Sign Leuer, Turner, Sessions. Keep everyone else except Henderson

Lillard/Sessions (I just like him a lot as a back up PG but I don't care that much)
McCollum/Crabbe/Connaughton
Aminu/Turner/Harkless/Montero
Leuer/Vonleh/Alexander
Plumlee/Davis/Leonard

Weeeeeee. Lots Of different line-ups. That's for sure. Everyone just has to be happy playing 15 minutes each

[Jsun947]

Here is the free agent pool with some of the main stats. I sorted by position then age, then mpg.

PLAYER TEAM STATUS AGE POS. GP MPG PPG RPG APG SPG BPG
Andre Drummond DET RFA 22 C 81 32.9 16.2 14.8 0.8 1.5 1.4
Bismack Biyombo TOR PO 23 C 82 22 5.5 8 0.4 0.2 1.6
Meyers Leonard POR RFA 24 C 61 21.8 8.3 5.1 1.5 0.1 0.3
Tarik Black LAL RFA 24 C 39 12.7 3.4 4 0.4 0.4 0.5
Greg Smith MIN UFA 25 C 18 10.6 2.4 2.3 0.3 0.2 0.1
Hassan Whiteside MIA UFA 26 C 73 29.1 14.2 11.8 0.4 0.6 3.7
Henry Sims BKN UFA 26 C 14 18.7 6.5 5.1 0.6 0.6 0.9
Festus Ezeli GSW RFA 26 C 47 16.6 7 5.7 0.7 0.4 1.1
Robert Sacre LAL UFA 26 C 25 12.8 3.5 2.9 0.6 0.2 0.4
Dewayne Dedmon ORL UFA 26 C 58 12.1 4.4 3.9 0.2 0.4 0.8
Tyler Zeller BOS RFA 26 C 60 11.8 6.1 3 0.5 0.2 0.4
Miles Plumlee MIL RFA 27 C 61 14.2 5.1 3.8 0.3 0.3 0.8
Cole Aldrich LAC PO 27 C 60 13.3 5.5 4.8 0.8 0.8 1.1
Boban Marjanovic SAS RFA 27 C 54 9.4 5.5 3.6 0.4 0.2 0.4
Jordan Hill IND UFA 28 C 74 20.5 8.7 6.1 1.2 0.5 0.5
Marreese Speights GSW UFA 28 C 73 11.6 7.2 3.3 0.8 0.3 0.5
Ian Mahinmi IND UFA 29 C 72 25.4 9.2 7.1 1.5 0.9 1.1
Roy Hibbert LAL UFA 29 C 81 23.2 5.9 4.9 1.2 0.4 1.4
Timofey Mozgov CLE UFA 29 C 76 17.4 6.3 4.4 0.4 0.3 0.8
Dwight Howard HOU PO 30 C 71 32.1 13.7 11.8 1.4 1 1.6
Al Jefferson CHA UFA 31 C 47 23.3 12 6.4 1.5 0.6 0.9
Joakim Noah CHI UFA 31 C 29 21.9 4.3 8.8 3.8 0.6 1
Kendrick Perkins NOP UFA 31 C 37 14.6 2.5 3.5 0.8 0.3 0.3
Zaza Pachulia DAL UFA 32 C 77 26.3 8.5 9.4 1.7 0.9 0.3
Chris Kaman POR UFA 34 C 16 6.9 2.8 1.5 0.7 0.1 0.1
Pau Gasol CHI PO 35 C 72 31.8 16.5 11 4.1 0.6 2
Matt Bonner SAS UFA 36 C 30 6.8 2.5 0.9 0.3 0.2 0
Nazr Mohammed OKC UFA 38 C 6 3.8 1.3 0.8
Tim Duncan SAS PO 40 C 61 25.2 8.6 7.3 2.7 0.8 1.3
Christian Wood PHI RFA 20 PF 17 8.5 3.6 2.2 0.2 0.3 0.4
Cliff Alexander POR RFA 20 PF 8 4.4 1.3 0.8 0.1 0.3
Jared Sullinger BOS RFA 24 PF 82 23.6 10.3 8.3 2.3 0.9 0.6
Terrence Jones HOU RFA 24 PF 50 20.9 8.7 4.2 0.8 0.5 0.8
Derrick Williams NYK PO 24 PF 80 17.9 9.3 3.7 0.9 0.4 0.1
Dwight Powell DAL RFA 24 PF 70 14.4 5.8 4 0.6 0.5 0.3
Donatas Motiejunas HOU RFA 25 PF 38 14.7 6.3 2.9 1.1 0.4 0.1
Ryan Kelly LAL UFA 25 PF 36 13 4.2 3.4 0.6 0.4 0.3
Thomas Robinson BKN PO 25 PF 71 12.9 4.3 5.1 0.6 0.5 0.5
Jon Leuer PHX UFA 26 PF 67 18.7 8.5 5.6 1.1 0.6 0.4
Andrew Nicholson ORL RFA 26 PF 56 14.7 6.9 3.6 0.4 0.2 0.4
Kevin Seraphin NYK UFA 26 PF 48 11 3.9 2.6 1 0.2 0.8
Ryan Anderson NOP UFA 27 PF 66 30.4 17 6 1.1 0.6 0.4
J.J Hickson WAS UFA 27 PF 35 12.5 5.9 3.8 0.7 0.4 0.4
Ersan Ilyasova ORL UFA 28 PF 74 25.4 10.4 5.4 0.9 0.7 0.4
Darrell Arthur DEN PO 28 PF 70 21.7 7.5 4.2 1.4 0.8 0.7
Trevor Booker UTH UFA 28 PF 79 20.7 5.9 5.7 1.1 0.7 0.5
Jeff Ayres LAC UFA 28 PF 17 6.2 1.8 1.3 0.3 0.2
Al Horford ATL UFA 29 PF 83 32.2 15.3 7.3 3.2 0.8 1.5
Marvin Williams CHA UFA 29 PF 81 28.9 11.7 6.4 1.4 0.7 1
Luc Richard Mbah a Moute LAC UFA 29 PF 74 17.2 3.1 2.3 0.4 0.6 0.3
James Johnson TOR UFA 29 PF 57 16.2 5 2.2 1.2 0.5 0.6
Jonas Jerebko BOS UFA 29 PF 79 15.1 4.3 3.7 0.8 0.3 0.3
Jason Thompson TOR UFA 29 PF 47 10 3.1 2.8 0.6 0.3 0.4
Mirza Teletovic PHX UFA 30 PF 79 21.3 12.2 3.8 1.1 0.4 0.3
Brandon Bass LAL PO 30 PF 66 20.3 7.2 4.3 1.1 0.5 0.8
Anthony Tolliver DET UFA 30 PF 72 18.6 5.3 3.2 0.7 0.4 0.2
Jason Smith ORL UFA 30 PF 76 15.5 7.2 2.9 0.8 0.4 0.9
Tyler Hansbrough CHA UFA 30 PF 44 7.8 2.4 2 0.2 0.3 0.2
Kris Humphries ATL UFA 31 PF 53 15.7 6.5 4.1 0.7 0.3 0.5
Charlie Villanueva DAL UFA 31 PF 63 10.8 5.2 2.4 0.4 0.3 0.2
David Lee DAL UFA 32 PF 55 16.4 7.8 5.5 1.5 0.4 0.5
Nene Hilario WAS UFA 33 PF 57 19.2 9.2 4.5 1.7 0.9 0.5
Amar'e Stoudemire MIA UFA 33 PF 52 14.7 5.8 4.3 0.5 0.4 0.8
Anderson Varejao GSW UFA 33 PF 54 9.3 2.6 2.6 0.6 0.3 0.2
Louis Amundson NYK UFA 33 PF 29 7 1.8 1.7 0.4 0.2 0.2
Luis Scola TOR UFA 35 PF 77 21.4 8.7 4.7 0.9 0.6 0.4
David West SAS PO 35 PF 78 18 7.1 4 1.8 0.6 0.7
Udonis Haslem MIA UFA 35 PF 37 7 1.6 2 0.4 0.1 0.1
Dirk Nowitzki DAL PO 37 PF 75 31.5 18.3 6.5 1.8 0.7 0.7
Chris Andersen MEM UFA 37 PF 27 14.9 3.9 3.6 0.4 0.6 0.5
Elton Brand PHI UFA 37 PF 17 13.2 4.1 3.7 1.1 0.5 0.5
Jordan Clarkson LAL RFA 23 PG 79 32.3 15.5 4 2.4 1.1 0.1
Shane Larkin BKN PO 23 PG 78 22.4 7.3 2.3 4.4 1.2 0.2
Austin Rivers LAC PO 23 PG 67 21.9 8.9 1.9 1.5 0.7 0.1
Xavier Munford MEM TO 23 PG 14 17.4 5.7 2.2 1.6 0.9 0.2
Bryce Cotton MEM RFA 23 PG 8 4.8 1 0.4 0.4
Isaiah Canaan PHI RFA 24 PG 77 25.5 11 2.3 1.8 0.7 0.2
Langston Galloway NYK RFA 24 PG 82 24.8 7.6 3.5 2.5 0.9 0.3
Seth Curry SAC PO 25 PG 44 15.7 6.8 1.4 1.5 0.5 0.1
Tim Frazier NOP RFA 25 PG 51 14.5 5.1 2.2 3.2 0.6 0
Brandon Jennings ORL UFA 26 PG 48 18.1 6.9 2 3.6 0.6 0.1
Ishmael Smith PHI UFA 27 PG 77 29.1 12.6 4 6.5 1.1 0.3
Jerryd Bayless MIL UFA 27 PG 52 28.9 10.4 2.7 3.1 0.9 0.2
Norris Cole NOP UFA 27 PG 45 26.6 10.6 3.4 3.7 0.8 0.1
Jeremy Lin CHA PO 27 PG 78 26.3 11.7 3.2 3 0.7 0.5
Jorge Gutierrez CHA RFA 27 PG 12 5.3 1.8 0.6 1.4 0.3
Mike Conley MEM UFA 28 PG 56 31.4 15.3 2.9 6.1 1.2 0.3
Donald Sloan BKN UFA 28 PG 61 21.6 7 2.8 4.4 0.5 0.1
Ty Lawson IND UFA 28 PG 67 21.3 5.6 1.8 3.6 0.8 0.1
D.J. Augustin DEN UFA 28 PG 62 19 7.5 1.5 3.2 0.6 0.1
Jordan Farmar LAC UFA 29 PG 12 24.3 9.2 2.1 3.1 1.3 0.2
Greivis Vasquez MIL UFA 29 PG 23 20 5.5 2 4 0.4
Rajon Rondo SAC UFA 30 PG 72 35.2 11.9 6.1 11.6 2 0.1
Toney Douglas NOP UFA 30 PG 61 20.7 8.7 2.3 2.5 1.1 0.1
Ramon Sessions WAS UFA 30 PG 82 20.3 9.9 2.5 2.9 0.6 0.1
Brian Roberts POR UFA 30 PG 51 9.2 4 0.8 1.1 0.2 0
Deron Williams DAL PO 31 PG 65 32.4 14.1 2.9 5.8 0.9 0.2
Raymond Felton DAL UFA 31 PG 81 27.4 9.5 3.2 3.5 0.9 0.2
Aaron Brooks CHI UFA 31 PG 69 16.1 7.1 1.5 2.6 0.4 0.1
Ronnie Price PHX UFA 32 PG 62 19.5 5.3 1.6 2.4 1.2 0.2
Marcelo Huertas LAL RFA 32 PG 53 16.4 4.5 1.7 3.4 0.5 0.1
Mo Williams CLE PO 33 PG 41 18.2 8.2 1.8 2.4 0.3 0.1
Steve Blake DET UFA 36 PG 58 17 4.4 1.5 3.4 0.4 0.1
Pablo Prigioni LAC UFA 38 PG 59 13.9 2.5 1.9 2.2 0.9 0
Andre Miller SAS UFA 40 PG 40 11.6 3.6 1.3 2.2 0.4
Maurice Harkless POR RFA 22 SF 78 18.7 6.4 3.6 0.9 0.6 0.4
Harrison Barnes GSW RFA 23 SF 67 30.9 11.7 5 1.8 0.6 0.1
James McAdoo GSW RFA 23 SF 41 6.4 2.9 1.4 0.4 0.2 0.2
Allen Crabbe POR RFA 24 SF 81 26 10.3 2.7 1.2 0.8 0.2
Jarell Eddie WAS RFA 24 SF 26 5.6 2.4 0.9 0.2 0.2 0
Jordan Hamilton NOP UFA 25 SF 11 27.5 11.4 5.6 2.3 0.7 0.3
Solomon Hill IND UFA 25 SF 60 14.9 4.3 2.8 1 0.6 0.2
James Ennis NOP RFA 25 SF 22 14.9 7.2 1.9 1 0.7 0.2
Quincy Acy SAC PO 25 SF 59 14.8 5.2 3.2 0.5 0.5 0.4
Cleanthony Early NYK RFA 25 SF 17 9 1.8 1.5 0.4 0.1 0.2
Kevin Durant OKC UFA 27 SF 73 35.7 28.1 8.2 5 0.9 1.2
Nicolas Batum CHA UFA 27 SF 70 35 14.9 6.1 5.8 0.9 0.6
Chandler Parsons DAL PO 27 SF 61 29.5 13.7 4.7 2.8 0.8 0.3
Evan Turner BOS UFA 27 SF 82 28.1 10.5 4.9 4.4 1 0.4
Chase Budinger PHX UFA 27 SF 66 14.1 4.1 2.3 1 0.5 0.2
Lance Thomas NYK UFA 28 SF 59 22.4 8.2 2.2 0.9 0.4 0.1
Alonzo Gee NOP PO 28 SF 73 22.4 4.5 3.4 1 0.9 0.2
Wesley Johnson LAC PO 28 SF 80 20.8 6.9 3.1 0.6 1.1 0.7
Jeff Green LAC UFA 29 SF 80 28.2 11.7 4.2 1.7 0.7 0.5
Damjan Rudez MIN TO 29 SF 33 8.4 2.3 0.6 0.3 0.1 0
Josh Smith HOU UFA 30 SF 56 15.9 6.1 3.4 1.6 0.6 0.8
Dorell Wright MIA UFA 30 SF 0
Lebron James CLE PO 31 SF 76 35.6 25.3 7.4 6.8 1.4 0.6
Luol Deng MIA UFA 31 SF 74 32.3 12.3 6 1.9 1 0.4
Steve Novak MIL UFA 32 SF 10 4.4 2.4 0.5
Joe Johnson MIA UFA 34 SF 81 33.4 12.2 3.6 3.9 0.8 0
Richard Jefferson CLE UFA 35 SF 74 17.9 5.5 1.7 0.8 0.4 0.2
Matt Barnes MEM UFA 36 SF 76 28.8 10 5.5 2.1 1 0.8
Tayshaun Prince MIN UFA 36 SF 77 19 2.9 1.9 0.9 0.5 0.2
Metta World Peace LAL UFA 36 SF 35 16.8 5 2.5 0.8 0.6 0.3
Caron Butler SAC PO 36 SF 17 10.4 3.7 1.3 0.6 0.5 0.1
Bradley Beal WAS RFA 22 SG 55 31.1 17.4 3.4 2.9 1 0.2
Tyler Johnson MIA RFA 22 SG 36 23.9 8.7 3.1 2.2 0.7 0.4
Sergey Karasev BKN RFA 22 SG 40 10 2.4 1.5 0.9 0.2 0.1
Evan Fournier ORL RFA 23 SG 79 32.5 15.4 2.8 2.7 1.2 0
P.J. Hairston MEM UFA 23 SG 66 19.9 6.2 2.6 0.6 0.5 0.2
Dion Waiters OKC RFA 24 SG 79 27.6 9.7 2.6 2 1.1 0.2
Markel Brown BKN RFA 24 SG 62 15.8 5.9 2 1.5 0.6 0.2
Troy Daniels CHA RFA 24 SG 43 11.1 5.6 1.3 0.5 0.3 0.1
Lance Stephenson MEM TO 25 SG 69 19.9 8.3 3.2 1.9 0.6 0.1
Jordan McRae CLE TO 25 SG 22 8.9 4.5 0.9 1.1 0.1 0
Ian Clark GSW RFA 25 SG 67 8.7 3.6 1 1 0.3 0.2
DeMar DeRozan TOR PO 26 SG 78 35.9 23.5 4.5 4 1 0.3
Kent Bazemore ATL UFA 26 SG 76 27.8 11.8 5.1 2.3 1.3 0.5
Eric Gordon NOP UFA 27 SG 45 32.9 15.2 2.2 2.7 1 0.3
E'Twaun Moore CHI UFA 27 SG 59 21.4 7.5 2.3 1.7 0.6 0.3
James Anderson SAC PO 27 SG 51 14.1 3.5 1.7 0.8 0.4 0.3
O.J. Mayo MIL UFA 28 SG 41 26.6 7.8 2.6 2.9 1.1 0.2
Wayne Ellington BKN PO 28 SG 76 21.3 7.7 2.3 1.1 0.6 0.1
Gerald Henderson POR UFA 28 SG 72 19.9 8.7 2.9 1 0.5 0.3
Marcus Thornton WAS UFA 28 SG 61 18.2 9.7 2.4 1.4 0.8 0.1
Garrett Temple WAS UFA 29 SG 80 24.4 7.3 2.7 1.8 0.9 0.2
Arron Afflalo NYK PO 30 SG 71 33.4 12.8 3.7 2 0.4 0.1
JR Smith CLE PO 30 SG 77 30.7 12.4 2.8 1.7 1.1 0.3
Courtney Lee CHA UFA 30 SG 79 29.5 9.6 2.6 1.7 1.1 0.4
Jared Dudley WAS UFA 30 SG 81 25.9 7.9 3.5 2.1 0.9 0.2
Gerald Green MIA UFA 30 SG 69 22.6 8.9 2.4 0.8 0.5 0.3
Brandon Rush GSW UFA 30 SG 73 14.5 4.2 2.5 0.8 0.3 0.3
Randy Foye OKC UFA 32 SG 82 20.2 5.8 1.9 2 0.5 0.4
Sasha Vujacic NYK UFA 32 SG 61 14.9 4.9 2.4 1.4 0.6 0.1
Kevin Martin SAS UFA 33 SG 55 19.9 9.3 2 1.1 0.5 0.1
Leandro Barbosa GSW UFA 33 SG 69 15.9 6.4 1.7 1.2 0.6 0.1
Alan Anderson WAS UFA 33 SG 13 14.8 5 2.1 1.1 0.3 0.1
Dwyane Wade MIA UFA 34 SG 74 30.5 19 4.1 4.6 1.1 0.6
Kirk Hinrich ATL UFA 35 SG 47 13.4 2.9 1.5 1.6 0.3 0
Jamal Crawford LAC UFA 36 SG 79 26.9 14.2 1.8 2.3 0.7 0.2
Mike Miller DEN UFA 36 SG 46 8.1 1.4 1.2 0.9 0.3 0.1
Manu Ginobili SAS PO 38 SG 58 19.6 9.6 2.5 3.1 1.1 0.2
Jason Terry HOU UFA 38 SG 73 17.5 5.9 1.1 1.4 0.7 0.1

[Blazer50]

The longer this playoff run last - the greater the dividends it should be paying for the Blazers. Not only does Neil Olshey improve his E(xec)OTY chances, but more Free Agents have to be considering P Town as a legitimate target. They already know the fan base is great and the facilities are outstanding; Paul Allen offers a first class operation and Terry Stott's is a great coach with a wide open scheme. Now they realize the Dame/CJ combo is strong enough to carry this team into contention. Any of these guys who want to be the final piece or even the Man to a franchise have to consider the Blazers a real possibility. Greg Monroe's rationale was that Milwaukee was closer to being a genuine contender, but that has not borne out. I could still see him in play - if the Bucks don't want too much to get out of what they now believe if a bad contract.

While the Blazers have been fortunate in their achievements, it has been over an 82 game schedule so it's really not a fluke. We've enjoyed better health than some, but we were definitely due. (Roy/Oden/Matthews, etal). The key to this will be for NeO to make the right calls and get that Difference Maker this offseason - coordinated with resigning the guys we want to keep. If we miss this opportunity, we may end up just paying our current guys in a year and not being able to upgrade our talent base.

Whether it's free agency - or a trade (or the Draft!) - this Playoff Run is only helping our chances to get "that" next piece to move closer to a championship window. One would think the Blazers need a few more star quality guys, but its best not to bet against Dame and Company!

[Run PDX]

In previous years, Olshey has gone for reasonable players on the first night of free agent negotiations...
I think he goes for the gusto this year. He has Dame, CJ, Stotts, fans, playoff status, and money on his side.
If he hits the jackpot, it could be a franchise changing moment.
If he misses out, it won't kill us because we're still playing with house money in a way.

I love being a Blazer fan right now.

[Jsun947]

I think we need a more dependable PF that can space the floor while Plumlee or Davis are in the game but are big enough to defend and rebound at that position as well. We already have Aminu & can potentially retain Harkless to be a small ball 4.

These are all the PF free agents that made .5 or more threes per game and are under the age of 30.

PLAYER STATUS AGE GP MPG PPG RPG APG SPG BPG FG% 3PTM 3PT% FT%
Derrick Williams PO 24 80 17.9 9.3 3.7 0.9 0.4 0.1 45.0  0.6  29.3  75.8 
Terrence Jones RFA 24 50 20.9 8.7 4.2 0.8 0.5 0.8 45.2  0.5  31.6  66.4 
Al Horford UFA 29 83 32.2 15.3 7.3 3.2 0.8 1.5 50.5  1.1  34.4  79.8 
Andrew Nicholson RFA 26 56 14.7 6.9 3.6 0.4 0.2 0.4 47.1  0.7  36.0  78.5 
Ryan Anderson UFA 27 66 30.4 17 6 1.1 0.6 0.4 42.7  2.0  36.6  87.3 
Ersan Ilyasova UFA 28 74 25.4 10.4 5.4 0.9 0.7 0.4 42.4  1.3  37.1  72.1 
Jon Leuer UFA 26 67 18.7 8.5 5.6 1.1 0.6 0.4 48.1  0.6  38.2  76.2 
Darrell Arthur PO 28 70 21.7 7.5 4.2 1.4 0.8 0.7 45.2  0.6  38.5  75.5 
Jonas Jerebko UFA 29 79 15.1 4.3 3.7 0.8 0.3 0.3 41.3  0.6  39.8  78.2 
Marvin Williams UFA 29 81 28.9 11.7 6.4 1.4 0.7 1 45.2  1.9  40.2  83.3 

Its really too bad that the relationship between the Blazers and Batum soured so much. Despite all of his shortfalls and inconsistencies I would love to have him back. I think his shooting percentages could get back to where they were in 2013/2014. Unlike Turner he's at least a threat from the outside and would give us another ball handler next to Lillard & McCollum we could desperately use.

This rotation would be really deadly in the modern NBA.

Lillard/CJ
CJ/Crabbe
Batum/Aminu
Leuer/Aminu/Davis
Plumlee/Davis/Leonard

[DusterBuster]

Didnt even know Derrick Williams was still in the NBA.

[Wizenheimer]

Didnt even know Derrick Williams was still in the NBA.

he played in NY this year and had by far his best season so far.

by the way, if you match up his numbers this year against Jabari Parker, Williams come out on top. But don't mention that to Bucks' fans. They are sky high on Parker, and almost all of them wouldn't trade Parker for Lillard. They steadfastly believe that Williams/Parker is an insulting comparison, even though the two players had nearly identical measurements at the pre-draft combine, and both seem to be laboring under the tweener stigma

[Blazer50]

Didnt even know Derrick Williams was still in the NBA.

he played in NY this year and had by far his best season so far.

by the way, if you match up his numbers this year against Jabari Parker, Williams come out on top. But don't mention that to Bucks' fans. They are sky high on Parker, and almost all of them wouldn't trade Parker for Lillard. They steadfastly believe that Williams/Parker is an insulting comparison, even though the two players had nearly identical measurements at the pre-draft combine, and both seem to be laboring under the tweener stigma

And he had blonde tips last time I saw him!

[Tim Lehrbach]

I'm puzzled at how many of you are leaving Steve Blake out of your offseason plans. How are the Blazers supposed to trade him again if they don't sign him first?

[Blazer50]

Portland Trail Blazers - Cap considerations:
Thought this might be a good way to bring major pieces into play.
Basketball Insiders shows some lower Max contract amounts, but I used 25 & 30% against the salary estimate.

Assumption: 92M Salary Cap

Guaranteed Salary (under contract) $ 47,102,74
Inclusive* (Includeds QO & Non Guaranteed) $ 59,668,805

*(C Alexander / Montero @$874,636 Unguaranteed / Crabbe $2,725,003 / Maurice Harkless & Meyers Leonard @ $4,045,849)

Cap Holds - Additional cost over QOs
Maurice Harkless - $7,235,148 - 4,045,849 - + $ 3,189,254
Meyers Leonard - $7,689,700 - 4,045,849 - + $ 3,643,851
Allen Crabbe - $2,725,003 difference from QO - + $0
Gerald Henderson - $0 Inclsive - $9M Cap Hold - + $9,000,000

Inclusive adjusted from Offers to Cap Holds
1* with Harkless / Crabbe / Leonard $ 66,501,910 (12 players)
2* add Gerald Henderson (bird rgts?) $ 75,501,910 (13 players)
- Not sure if Bird rights come if we don't waive the Hendu cap hold - it would be the only reason to take on the Hold.

Whitesides - Max offer - $23,000,000 + 1* = $89,501,910
Whitesides + 2* = $98,510,910
(*Need to shed $5.6M - Meyers (or Harmless/Henderson / BBInsiders show Max at $21.6M)

10 year vets (Horford - Howard) about $28,000,000 est.
(Need to shed Meyers (or Harmless/Henderson) & unguaranteed.

Greg Monroe - $17,145,838 - $17,884,176(PO)
requires assets going back to MIlw - TPE +???

$ 66,501,910 (excludes Hendu) +$17,145,838 = $83,647,748 ($8.4M still remains under cap + whatever asset they take).
$ 75,501,910 + $17,145,838 = $ 93,647,748
(waive Montero & C Alexander would cover - Or traded asset)

Cap considerations Old news? I prefer retaining our guys with a Major upgrade versus waiving and hoping an Ezili or Alrich type would be better than Meyers at a reasonable price. (I still think Meyers has upside). I wish we could go after Kanter, but rule prohibits us from signing him for a year since his own team had to match OUR Max offer. Does not apply to Monroe since Detroit did not match their RFA.

[red_power]

I'm puzzled at how many of you are leaving Steve Blake out of your offseason plans. How are the Blazers supposed to trade him again if they don't sign him first?

That would be worst NIGHTMARE for me. But I hope Steve finally done with playing in the blazers uniform.

[Downtown]

I would definitely look at Christian Wood as a cheap gamble at power forward. He might be one of those hidden gems or he might just take over Alexanders spot on the bench but he's worth thinking about.

[Blazers20]

I say trade for Monroe and Gay and try to resign Batum.

Lillard-McCollum
Batum
Gay-Aminu
Plumlee
Monroe-Davis

[red_power]

I would definitely look at Christian Wood as a cheap gamble at power forward. He might be one of those hidden gems or he might just take over Alexanders spot on the bench but he's worth thinking about.

Blazers already had a lot of cheap gambles in their roster.. All this team really needs is adding solid finished talent.

[Norm2953]

Portland already has two cheap gambles on their roster in Montero and Alexander. They need an
upgrade over Aminu and Harkless for their front court.

[PDX MM]

I would like to see us land Terrence Jones as long as it wasn't an overpay.

[Epicurus]

Portland already has two cheap gambles on their roster in Montero and Alexander. They need an
upgrade over Aminu and Harkless for their front court.

They definitely need more bulk. I wonder if Aminu, Harkless, Plumlee, or Davis could add 10lbs of muscle without sacrificing speed or lift. The other alternative is that Vonleh and Alexander improve their shooting and ball handling over the offseason. Conceivable possibilities exist even within the existing roster.