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Post#441 » by monopoman » Thu Jun 15, 2023 4:39 am

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monopoman wrote:Maybe more that haven't made their intentions as clear.


I think this is really really a good point. No one would have thought Zion would be available. We’re now hearing more about Toronto willing to reboot with the first actual reports of Siakam being potentially available. I think other situations could pop up as well. Even with Jaylen Brown… all reports now are that they want to focus on extending him… but is that true?


we don't know much but we can surmise a few things

* the history is pretty solid that after the lottery dust settles and teams really start focusing on top prospects, the value of top picks increases. That's even more true as teams digest the NBA finals and realize how far away they truly are from contention, and what they need

* Portland has more options than people were crediting weeks ago, and those options are increasing. I mean, Zion and Ingram have suddenly entered the auction zone. I think Portland has more leverage than people were crediting as well. Of course, they'd have even more if they had the 2nd pick...damn Hornets!

* All the chatter about Dame has been idiotic. He's not as intent on forcing the Blazers hand as people have been claiming and while he may be closer to leaving than he has ever been, he's still a long ways from asking out, and may very well never do so, no matter what Portland does. And a couple of posters here will hate that


I'm sure if Dame was making more noise behind closed doors about needing a trade or suggesting he might not be happy, we might see the Blazers takes offers on him. All the reports show that they don't intend to trade Dame, now we don't know if this will be the case once free agency really begins but for now it's not happening.

If Dame is committed to this team for the next 4-5 years I really am not as attached to Scoot as normal. I think Scoot would be a great pickup in a post Dame world but we likely would trade him or the pick if Dame is intent on staying. Dame still has plenty of great years ahead of him like he said he is nowhere near CP3's age.

We also would have trouble giving the minutes Scoot requires to really develop well, Scoot as the starting PG on day 1 would massively accelerate his development and that is unlikely.
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Re: Twitter Trade Rumor Roundup 

Post#442 » by DusterBuster » Thu Jun 15, 2023 4:51 am

Wizenheimer wrote:* All the chatter about Dame has been idiotic.


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Re: Twitter Trade Rumor Roundup 

Post#443 » by DusterBuster » Thu Jun 15, 2023 4:57 am

monopoman wrote:
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I think this is really really a good point. No one would have thought Zion would be available. We’re now hearing more about Toronto willing to reboot with the first actual reports of Siakam being potentially available. I think other situations could pop up as well. Even with Jaylen Brown… all reports now are that they want to focus on extending him… but is that true?


we don't know much but we can surmise a few things

* the history is pretty solid that after the lottery dust settles and teams really start focusing on top prospects, the value of top picks increases. That's even more true as teams digest the NBA finals and realize how far away they truly are from contention, and what they need

* Portland has more options than people were crediting weeks ago, and those options are increasing. I mean, Zion and Ingram have suddenly entered the auction zone. I think Portland has more leverage than people were crediting as well. Of course, they'd have even more if they had the 2nd pick...damn Hornets!

* All the chatter about Dame has been idiotic. He's not as intent on forcing the Blazers hand as people have been claiming and while he may be closer to leaving than he has ever been, he's still a long ways from asking out, and may very well never do so, no matter what Portland does. And a couple of posters here will hate that


I'm sure if Dame was making more noise behind closed doors about needing a trade or suggesting he might not be happy, we might see the Blazers takes offers on him. All the reports show that they don't intend to trade Dame, now we don't know if this will be the case once free agency really begins but for now it's not happening.


This is what I’ve been saying for ages. When Dame wants out and or the team is shopping him, we will know. Dame will tell you when it’s time to #FreeDame. There will be no need to read between the lines. Dame will say it publicly and reports like what just came out with the Wizards and Beal will be out there. It’s harder than ever to keep a secret in the NBA and Dame is one of the most outspoken “lay it out on the table what I think” players in the league. When he’s on the table for trade, he will let it be known, until then, assume he’s not asking out and the team has been consistent that they won’t move he until he wants to be traded. Portland isn’t leveraged where they have to give him up for a quarter on the dollar (sorry JKiddy).

Bottom line, Portland is in about as good a spot as they could have been aside from getting Wemby. This pick seems to be shaping up to give them multiple positive pathways forward.
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Re: Twitter Trade Rumor Roundup 

Post#444 » by The Sebastian Express » Thu Jun 15, 2023 10:55 am

Also even if Dame requests a trade, whether publicly or privately, Portland will do its best to find him the place he wants - but they are not obligated to take a bad trade for him.
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Post#445 » by JustBuzzin » Thu Jun 15, 2023 6:18 pm

The Sebastian Express wrote:Also even if Dame requests a trade, whether publicly or privately, Portland will do its best to find him the place he wants - but they are not obligated to take a bad trade for him.

A guy from the Northwest is on the trade block Zach Lavine.

This move makes too much sense.

Simons/#3 pick or Simons/Sharpe
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Post#446 » by Wizenheimer » Thu Jun 15, 2023 6:27 pm

JustBuzzin wrote:
The Sebastian Express wrote:Also even if Dame requests a trade, whether publicly or privately, Portland will do its best to find him the place he wants - but they are not obligated to take a bad trade for him.

A guy from the Northwest is on the trade block Zach Lavine.

This move makes too much sense.

Simons/#3 pick or Simons/Sharpe


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Re: Twitter Trade Rumor Roundup 

Post#447 » by The Sebastian Express » Thu Jun 15, 2023 6:27 pm

JustBuzzin wrote:
The Sebastian Express wrote:Also even if Dame requests a trade, whether publicly or privately, Portland will do its best to find him the place he wants - but they are not obligated to take a bad trade for him.

A guy from the Northwest is on the trade block Zach Lavine.

This move makes too much sense.

Simons/#3 pick or Simons/Sharpe


It doesn't. LaVine doesn't fix this team's issues. People have been suggesting LaVine to us for a few years now.
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Post#448 » by JustBuzzin » Thu Jun 15, 2023 6:31 pm

The Sebastian Express wrote:
JustBuzzin wrote:
The Sebastian Express wrote:Also even if Dame requests a trade, whether publicly or privately, Portland will do its best to find him the place he wants - but they are not obligated to take a bad trade for him.

A guy from the Northwest is on the trade block Zach Lavine.

This move makes too much sense.

Simons/#3 pick or Simons/Sharpe


It doesn't. LaVine doesn't fix this team's issues. People have been suggesting LaVine to us for a few years now.
You must be down on Lavine?

He's a allstar caliber guard. He's pretty much the best player available that has been mentioned so far.

I rather have Lavine than a guy like Towns or Beal.
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Post#449 » by Wizenheimer » Thu Jun 15, 2023 6:41 pm

this is just a thought I had and it probably is not grounded in reality...but...

if you go back a couple of months to Dame's comments that touched off the latest frenzy of Dame trade ideas (most of which insulting), speculation (most of which illogical) and rumors, (most of which unfounded), and it has me wondering...

wondering if what Dame said was not actually directed at Cronin (as many assumed), but instead was directed at Jody and the Vulcans. A shot across their bow warning them their their penny-pinching ways might actually have a much greater cost than the pennies pinched. Reminding them that a couple of years of luxury tax payments might pay off better than dodging the tax

when it comes to trades and off-seasons, the NBA is all about leverage, and I'm wondering Dame's comments weren't about giving the Blazer front office leverage on the trade market, but giving it some leverage against the financial intransigence of the Vulcans
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Post#450 » by Norm2953 » Thu Jun 15, 2023 6:46 pm

Portland would send Dame to whichever team(s) he wishes to go.

If Portland drafts Scoot and Dame sees the potential of that young back court, there will be
a meeting where Dame will go one of the 2-3 teams Dame wishes to go to. Portland would
settle for a deal heavy in picks/swaps which leaves the team Dame is going to intact to
chase a ring.

Much like with Clyde, Portland will take care of him
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Post#451 » by DusterBuster » Thu Jun 15, 2023 6:49 pm

Wizenheimer wrote:this is just a thought I had and it probably is not grounded in reality...but...

if you go back a couple of months to Dame's comments that touched off the latest frenzy of Dame trade ideas (most of which insulting), speculation (most of which illogical) and rumors, (most of which unfounded), and it has me wondering...

wondering if what Dame said was not actually directed at Cronin (as many assumed), but instead was directed at Jody and the Vulcans. A shot across their bow warning them their their penny-pinching ways might actually have a much greater cost than the pennies pinched. Reminding them that a couple of years of luxury tax payments might pay off better than dodging the tax

when it comes to trades and off-seasons, the NBA is all about leverage, and I'm wondering Dame's comments weren't about giving the Blazer front office leverage on the trade market, but giving it some leverage against the financial intransigence of the Vulcans


This is an interesting thought exercise. Dame has been around the GM and has his hands in as much as possible with the FO, both with Olshey and Cronin. He's undoubtedly seen/heard about potential deals that probably got nixed because of financial reasons. Seeing almost every deadline, the team trading away talented rotational players to make sure they stay under the luxury tax line has to be frustrating to him. Yes, the tax is expensive, but the Allen's are in no way hurting for money. Being committed to winning very much means being willing to spend into the tax.
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Post#452 » by JRoy » Thu Jun 15, 2023 6:50 pm

JustBuzzin wrote:
The Sebastian Express wrote:
JustBuzzin wrote:A guy from the Northwest is on the trade block Zach Lavine.

This move makes too much sense.

Simons/#3 pick or Simons/Sharpe


It doesn't. LaVine doesn't fix this team's issues. People have been suggesting LaVine to us for a few years now.
You must be down on Lavine?

He's a allstar caliber guard. He's pretty much the best player available that has been mentioned so far.

I rather have Lavine than a guy like Towns or Beal.


He’s another expensive offense only guard with injury issues.

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Post#453 » by Wizenheimer » Thu Jun 15, 2023 6:51 pm

JustBuzzin wrote:You must be down on Lavine?

He's a allstar caliber guard. He's pretty much the best player available that has been mentioned so far.

I rather have Lavine than a guy like Towns or Beal.


LOL...give me a break. LaVine is not anywhere close to the value of a 3rd pick or Sharpe. Not in the same zip code

and I don't know if you've been in a coma or you're just trolling but there have been several players mentioned, over and over and over, that are better than LaVine: Mikal Bridges, Pascal Siakam, Jaylen Brown, Zion, Brandon Ingram

I'm not down on LaVine. He a good player, He's a better version of CJ or Ant. But that's the problem, he's better than them, but he's still a version of them and it's the version that doesn't fit well with Dame
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Post#454 » by JKiddy » Thu Jun 15, 2023 6:53 pm

DusterBuster wrote:
monopoman wrote:
Wizenheimer wrote:
we don't know much but we can surmise a few things

* the history is pretty solid that after the lottery dust settles and teams really start focusing on top prospects, the value of top picks increases. That's even more true as teams digest the NBA finals and realize how far away they truly are from contention, and what they need

* Portland has more options than people were crediting weeks ago, and those options are increasing. I mean, Zion and Ingram have suddenly entered the auction zone. I think Portland has more leverage than people were crediting as well. Of course, they'd have even more if they had the 2nd pick...damn Hornets!

* All the chatter about Dame has been idiotic. He's not as intent on forcing the Blazers hand as people have been claiming and while he may be closer to leaving than he has ever been, he's still a long ways from asking out, and may very well never do so, no matter what Portland does. And a couple of posters here will hate that


I'm sure if Dame was making more noise behind closed doors about needing a trade or suggesting he might not be happy, we might see the Blazers takes offers on him. All the reports show that they don't intend to trade Dame, now we don't know if this will be the case once free agency really begins but for now it's not happening.


This is what I’ve been saying for ages. When Dame wants out and or the team is shopping him, we will know. Dame will tell you when it’s time to #FreeDame. There will be no need to read between the lines. Dame will say it publicly and reports like what just came out with the Wizards and Beal will be out there. It’s harder than ever to keep a secret in the NBA and Dame is one of the most outspoken “lay it out on the table what I think” players in the league. When he’s on the table for trade, he will let it be known, until then, assume he’s not asking out and the team has been consistent that they won’t move he until he wants to be traded. Portland isn’t leveraged where they have to give him up for a quarter on the dollar (sorry JKiddy).

Bottom line, Portland is in about as good a spot as they could have been aside from getting Wemby. This pick seems to be shaping up to give them multiple positive pathways forward.


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I want to say this. I do not believe the Nets are interested unless the price is very right. How many 33 year old stars have left their original team and have lead the next team to a title as the number one option?

I think the answer is ZERO. I am not for Dame. I think another team should take him at this age and salary OR he should just stay in POR.
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Post#455 » by DusterBuster » Thu Jun 15, 2023 6:58 pm

JKiddy wrote:
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I'm sure if Dame was making more noise behind closed doors about needing a trade or suggesting he might not be happy, we might see the Blazers takes offers on him. All the reports show that they don't intend to trade Dame, now we don't know if this will be the case once free agency really begins but for now it's not happening.


This is what I’ve been saying for ages. When Dame wants out and or the team is shopping him, we will know. Dame will tell you when it’s time to #FreeDame. There will be no need to read between the lines. Dame will say it publicly and reports like what just came out with the Wizards and Beal will be out there. It’s harder than ever to keep a secret in the NBA and Dame is one of the most outspoken “lay it out on the table what I think” players in the league. When he’s on the table for trade, he will let it be known, until then, assume he’s not asking out and the team has been consistent that they won’t move he until he wants to be traded. Portland isn’t leveraged where they have to give him up for a quarter on the dollar (sorry JKiddy).

Bottom line, Portland is in about as good a spot as they could have been aside from getting Wemby. This pick seems to be shaping up to give them multiple positive pathways forward.


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I want to say this. I do not believe the Nets are interested unless the price is very right. How many 33 year old stars have left their original team and have lead the next team to a title as the number one option?

I think the answer is ZERO. I am not for Dame. I think another team should take him at this age and salary OR he should just stay in POR.


This is my second account, those who know me here know I've been here since 01 and have been a mod before. And yes, I very much can live without you on this board, very happily so I might add.

I will also add that with Dame, according to Woj just this morning, he is not available now and the feeling across the league is it's entirely possible he may never end up being available. Sounds like he's staying in Portland, and now that you've decided you don't want him in Brooklyn, I'm not sure what else there is here to discuss.
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Post#456 » by Wizenheimer » Thu Jun 15, 2023 7:46 pm

DusterBuster wrote:
JKiddy wrote:
DusterBuster wrote:
This is what I’ve been saying for ages. When Dame wants out and or the team is shopping him, we will know. Dame will tell you when it’s time to #FreeDame. There will be no need to read between the lines. Dame will say it publicly and reports like what just came out with the Wizards and Beal will be out there. It’s harder than ever to keep a secret in the NBA and Dame is one of the most outspoken “lay it out on the table what I think” players in the league. When he’s on the table for trade, he will let it be known, until then, assume he’s not asking out and the team has been consistent that they won’t move he until he wants to be traded. Portland isn’t leveraged where they have to give him up for a quarter on the dollar (sorry JKiddy).

Bottom line, Portland is in about as good a spot as they could have been aside from getting Wemby. This pick seems to be shaping up to give them multiple positive pathways forward.


I know you can't live without me. Most can't live without the OG RealGMer.

I want to say this. I do not believe the Nets are interested unless the price is very right. How many 33 year old stars have left their original team and have lead the next team to a title as the number one option?

I think the answer is ZERO. I am not for Dame. I think another team should take him at this age and salary OR he should just stay in POR.


This is my second account, those who know me here know I've been here since 01 and have been a mod before. And yes, I very much can live without you on this board, very happily so I might add.

I will also add that with Dame, according to Woj just this morning, he is not available now and the feeling across the league is it's entirely possible he may never end up being available. Sounds like he's staying in Portland, and now that you've decided you don't want him in Brooklyn, I'm not sure what else there is here to discuss.


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Post#457 » by Village Idiot » Thu Jun 15, 2023 7:55 pm

While I wish we could do a Survivor thing and vote JKiddy off our little island, I am happy to wait for Wizenheimer to just roast this mofo and pile on to DBs comments because you are on amazing form today bro. Whatever you are doing with your meds/alcohol consumption /familial relations keep doing whatever it is you're doing cause I am digging it
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Post#458 » by DaVoiceMaster » Thu Jun 15, 2023 8:43 pm

Wizenheimer wrote:
DusterBuster wrote:
JKiddy wrote:
I know you can't live without me. Most can't live without the OG RealGMer.

I want to say this. I do not believe the Nets are interested unless the price is very right. How many 33 year old stars have left their original team and have lead the next team to a title as the number one option?

I think the answer is ZERO. I am not for Dame. I think another team should take him at this age and salary OR he should just stay in POR.


This is my second account, those who know me here know I've been here since 01 and have been a mod before. And yes, I very much can live without you on this board, very happily so I might add.

I will also add that with Dame, according to Woj just this morning, he is not available now and the feeling across the league is it's entirely possible he may never end up being available. Sounds like he's staying in Portland, and now that you've decided you don't want him in Brooklyn, I'm not sure what else there is here to discuss.


good job of spyking that argument


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Post#459 » by DusterBuster » Thu Jun 15, 2023 9:15 pm

Wizenheimer wrote:
DusterBuster wrote:
JKiddy wrote:
I know you can't live without me. Most can't live without the OG RealGMer.

I want to say this. I do not believe the Nets are interested unless the price is very right. How many 33 year old stars have left their original team and have lead the next team to a title as the number one option?

I think the answer is ZERO. I am not for Dame. I think another team should take him at this age and salary OR he should just stay in POR.


This is my second account, those who know me here know I've been here since 01 and have been a mod before. And yes, I very much can live without you on this board, very happily so I might add.

I will also add that with Dame, according to Woj just this morning, he is not available now and the feeling across the league is it's entirely possible he may never end up being available. Sounds like he's staying in Portland, and now that you've decided you don't want him in Brooklyn, I'm not sure what else there is here to discuss.


good job of spyking that argument


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Post#460 » by JKiddy » Thu Jun 15, 2023 10:04 pm

I will always be welcome in POR and on the POR RealGM board.

I did enjoy this read today. You guys made my day. I hope BK meets POR in the Finals ASAP. Hopefully by 2026.

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