2025 Offseason Thread

Post #61 » by **City of Trees** » Sat Jul 12, 2025 11:03 pm

ORLMagicGirl15 wrote:Question: Is your team wanting to re-sign Keegan or trade him? If re-signing do you guys think he’ll get the rookie max?

He fits with the new FO's playing style. I think he gets an extension but it won't be the max

Post #62 » by **codydaze** » Sun Jul 13, 2025 1:02 am

FarBeyondDriven wrote:
BoogieTime wrote:Good opening SL day for Perry. Picks looked decent as well as some possible reasoning for his Carter shopping (though I'm still on board with him)

you mean Vivek don't you? I thought he was a meddling owner pulling all the strings? Dictating draft picks, trades and FA? We can't selectively blame him for all the bad and not credit him for the good. Let's have some consistency.

Again, not hard to understand that dictating the direction of the team is not the same thing as personally building the roster.

BoogieTime · Post #63 » by **BoogieTime** » Sun Jul 13, 2025 1:48 am

there you go Devin, bounce back game. Nique and Maxime continue good stuff. We might have a team capable of competing for the sl title!

Post #64 » by **City of Trees** » Sun Jul 13, 2025 3:08 am

F it. LeBron for Lavine. Then buy out LeBron.

LightTheBeam · Post #65 » by **LightTheBeam** » Mon Jul 14, 2025 7:04 pm

I'm really trying to understand the JVal for Saric deal for Sac. We now can't aggregate Saric for 2 months. JVal wanted to go back to europe, and was willing to leave all the $ on the table. Why not just tell Denver hey we talked to JVal and we are going to do right by him and cancel the trade then have JVal agree to a buy out and leave. Would have given us more tax space to go out and add a forward into that MLE.

Just seems like Perry read the cards wrong or was trying to buy some good grace with Denver for a future deal, because otherwise it makes no sense. I really hope they don't think Saric can eat minutes next year.

LightTheBeam · Post #66 » by **LightTheBeam** » Mon Jul 14, 2025 7:09 pm

City of Trees wrote:F it. LeBron for Lavine. Then buy out LeBron.

I think LA tells us to kindly F off lol. They'd probably rather buy out Lebron themselves. But then again they have a "2 year plan" to enter free agency in 2027 when Jokic/Giannis are available so maybe? Easy way to sell the fans they aren't punting they got LaVine whose going to shoot 45% from 3 next to Luka.

But that would be amazing if we could figure this out. I genuinely wish we could make LaVine/Derozan just disappear.

Schroder/Monk
Keon/Carter
Keegan/Nique
Maxime/Jones
Sabonis

This would be such a fun team to watch.

flow · Post #67 » by **flow** » Mon Jul 14, 2025 7:24 pm

BoogieTime wrote:Yikes... Schroder has been terrible for a bit, just shows you where things are at in terms of pgs in our grasp. but Schroder has been so terrible, I'm not sure he does anything over playing an ill fitting player at pg

kevin44 wrote:After watching Schroder with the Warriors no way I would sign him and give him 45 million.

I don't at all blame you guys for not following the Pistons through the 2nd half of this past season, but it's clear that you didn't. Schroder wasn't given that contract based on his play in GS. He got it based on his play in Detroit. And as a Detroit fan, I can tell you he was great for us. We were in dire need of point guard at the trade deadline. He came in and immediately impacted the team with his leadership and intensity. He's a type-A floor general/qb who runs the offense, coaches teammates, and can still get to the rim & shoot the ball. While he does have defensive limitations, he's a crafty pest. He rises to/thrives on the pressure of the playoffs. He wants the smoke. He was our 2nd best player (and arguably most clutch) in the Knicks series. I was pissed that we let him walk.

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BoogieTime · Post #68 » by **BoogieTime** » Tue Jul 15, 2025 5:57 am

flow wrote:
BoogieTime wrote:Yikes... Schroder has been terrible for a bit, just shows you where things are at in terms of pgs in our grasp. but Schroder has been so terrible, I'm not sure he does anything over playing an ill fitting player at pg
kevin44 wrote:After watching Schroder with the Warriors no way I would sign him and give him 45 million.

I don't at all blame you guys for not following the Pistons through the 2nd half of this past season, but it's clear that you didn't. Schroder wasn't given that contract based on his play in GS. He got it based on his play in Detroit. And as a Detroit fan, I can tell you he was great for us. We were in dire need of point guard at the trade deadline. He came in and immediately impacted the team with his leadership and intensity. He's a type-A floor general/qb who runs the offense, coaches teammates, and can still get to the rim & shoot the ball. While he does have defensive limitations, he's a crafty pest. He rises to/thrives on the pressure of the playoffs. He wants the smoke. He was our 2nd best player (and arguably most clutch) in the Knicks series. I was pissed that we let him walk.

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Yeah, I don't make much Pistons games, lol, but thanks for the info. The basal numbers looked a bit rough in Detroit too when I gave it a cursory glance, but I know many Pistons fans feel like you do after reading some of the comments. Perry has looked good initially with his draft selections, so I'm going to give him the benefit of the doubt here, along with the fact that the true pg market this free agency was shallow as hell. Hopefully Dennis continues the Pistons play that had you guys excited

BoogieTime · Post #69 » by **BoogieTime** » Sun Jul 20, 2025 2:58 am

are we really coming for hat sl trophy?? have to celebrate the little things. I still remember that ray mac championship, wonder if he made a career of it overseas

Post #70 » by **codydaze** » Sun Jul 20, 2025 5:35 pm

BoogieTime wrote:are we really coming for hat sl trophy?? have to celebrate the little things. I still remember that ray mac championship, wonder if he made a career of it overseas

We won with Davion back in 2021 too, it would be a third if we won this year which would be the most SL championships of any franchise.

BoogieTime · Post #71 » by **BoogieTime** » Mon Jul 21, 2025 4:28 am

Unfortunate end to the tourney, but good Sl. One second thoughts after watching intermittent?

Nique - good pick. Looks to be at least a solid do it all role player

Maxime - skilled, but some concerning attributes on the defensive end. Still should be a second rounder that hits (which means can play a solid bench role). He certainly wouldn’t be worse than Lyles

Isaac - Can’t bet against motor and I don’t know the percentages but looked more comfortable outside. Worth continuing to develop

Devin - I think there may be a reason he’s being shopped despite my initial fandom

Post #72 » by **codydaze** » Mon Jul 21, 2025 7:24 pm

Read on Twitter

Power move.

BoogieTime · Post #73 » by **BoogieTime** » Tue Jul 22, 2025 3:31 am

codydaze wrote:

Read on Twitter

Power move.

something tells me he's a good locker room type

BoogieTime · Post #74 » by **BoogieTime** » Wed Jul 23, 2025 1:40 am

Last summer in the 2024 draft thread when I was perusing picks I thought Filipowski and Carrington popped a bit, though I also thought McCain and Carter could be options.. I was about to make fun of myself for the Filipowski offering but https://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/281477/Kyle-Filopowski-Named-Summer-League-MVP. Kid just had a baseline of talent to work with and fell..

Carrington... mixed bag, but guards an be in that range. still think there will be a career

BoogieTime · Post #75 » by **BoogieTime** » Fri Jul 25, 2025 3:54 am

We’ll be interesting to see Kuminga’s contract as it relates to Keegan.

I think I’d rather have Keegan, just because I think his floor is safer as a solid contributor, but Kuminga has a non insignificant more upside as a younger, more driven offensive player. Keegan has regressed offensively since being in the league, though his D makes up for it in terms of being a near average starter (you can argue if he’s slightly above or below), I’m not sure what you would pay him until he showed some offensive imprint. I think Keegan will wait til next year so the org can continue to evaluate his O before extension, and I wonder what Kuminga will receive

BoogieTime · Post #76 » by **BoogieTime** » Yesterday 5:37 am

I heard Keon was liking posts on his social media concerning joining the Warriors..

He was doing this last year in regards to Philadelphia…

While I would cut him a little slack in that he may not have been receiving the minutes or money he would have liked last year and this summer (though I thought there were reasons for his situation - agreeable or not to fans), at some point he crosses the line into being somewhat disagreeable as a fan, personally. While I agree and understand his advanced stats are some of the finest on the team, as someone who is already skeptical of his inoffensive game, it doesn’t take much to just say to Perry “if you really believe in Kuminga (which I personally don’t) take him as the centerpiece and call it a day.” Saving our draft capital, and Carter may (though maybe not) end up a solid all around player on both sides. It may also be somewhat of a stretch to retain Keon at this point as well

As for Westbrook, while not a fan of his game as of late, I can see a situation where you just want that dawg mentality rubbing off in the locker room, so long as it’s understood he won’t be complaining about minutes in any scenario

BoogieTime · Post #77 » by **BoogieTime** » Yesterday 9:10 am

^^^ of course Keon might be hinting at a deal that’s already happened but can’t be announced yet for whatever reason, which would be a better look for him

OGSactownballer · Post #78 » by **OGSactownballer** » Today 12:15 am

I’m seeing this wrapping up as:

Monk and a lotto or maybe top ten protected first to GSW

Kuminga (@ $23/year x 4 years PO last year) to Sac

Somebody dumped (DDR hopefully) to clear salary (possibly a waived and stretched instead) and Westbrook signed to a 2 + 1 (TO) deal.

Roster finalized.

BoogieTime · Post #79 » by **BoogieTime** » Today 1:00 am

OGSactownballer wrote:I’m seeing this wrapping up as:

Monk and a lotto or maybe top ten protected first to GSW

Kuminga (@ $23/year x 4 years PO last year) to Sac

Somebody dumped (DDR hopefully) to clear salary (possibly a waived and stretched instead) and Westbrook signed to a 2 + 1 (TO) deal.

Roster finalized.

The reports are the Warriors view Monk negatively and are trying to somewhat preserve future cap, and although I would prefer him in the deal to Keon, this might hurt a little to get over the finish line..

OGSactownballer · Post #80 » by **OGSactownballer** » Today 1:58 am

BoogieTime wrote:
OGSactownballer wrote:I’m seeing this wrapping up as:

Monk and a lotto or maybe top ten protected first to GSW

Kuminga (@ $23/year x 4 years PO last year) to Sac

Somebody dumped (DDR hopefully) to clear salary (possibly a waived and stretched instead) and Westbrook signed to a 2 + 1 (TO) deal.

Roster finalized.

The reports are the Warriors view Monk negatively and are trying to somewhat preserve future cap, and although I would prefer him in the deal to Keon, this might hurt a little to get over the finish line..

The problem though is that if the money is as advertised for Kuminga, the only contract match we have that works is Monk. Keon doesn’t make enough and Saric cannot be moved until September 13th.

I can see where Monk goes to a third team but that’s where things might hurt because it likely means paying in draft capital (one of the Char seconds likely) for somebody to take Monk and create a TPE for GSW.