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Re: Darren Collison 

Post#21 » by dozencousins » Sun Jun 13, 2010 11:46 pm

mitchweber wrote:
bdgking wrote:
mitchweber wrote:It depends on what we want to try to do in FA this offseason. If we really want to try to do something, I think we need to add a more valuable piece.

Thompson
#5

for

Collison
#11

And then we draft Whiteside at 11 (making it more acceptable to trade one of our bigs).


This would be a terrible trade for the KINGS

1st off as an overall player J.THOMPSON is better than COLLISION so why trade down ! Makes no sense at all !
Also you & others who would consider your deal need to realize that solid big men in the NBA are far more valuable than the point guards if for no other reason because a solid floor general (point guard ) is easier to replace than a big man ! We are already stretched really thin as a whole with our power forwards & centers . We need an upgrade not a downgrade !

I want to be clear I believe Collision is really good & would be a big addition to the team but not at the cost of the trade you proposed !

By the way we have 4 small forwards if we were going to do a trade 1 of them would be dealt in a deal reguardless if they were traded wih 1 of our bigs likely NOC but if not GARCIA !


No, he's not. Collison showed more in his rookie year than Jason has in his two years.

And I'd argue that the only thing more valuable than a good PG is a certain type of big--that is, a legitimate center that can be a real post presence on either end. Jason is not this. Jason is a very nice, solid big that can fit in on a lot of teams, but that's basically the extent of his value.

And just to reiterate, the idea here would be that we'd be drafting Whiteside to essentially take Jason's minutes. If we draft a big, we won't have enough minutes for the bigs we do have.



Mith :

WHITESIDE is a good prospect but he is not an upgrade over J.THOMPSON so there is no point to the trade you suggested .

Is WHITESIDE good = yes !
Is he NBA ready to start or even be an immediate player off the bench = NO
So their is no point !

We the KINGS IMO are 2 years maybe 3 years before we become a serious playoffs threat ! Now I am not saying we cant possibly squeeck into the playoffs next season or make it the following who know's right now our roster is not complete etc.

Aside from COUSINS , FAVORS , MONROE & ALDRICH their are not many big men out their that are ready to have a significant impact this year . i want to be clear to you & all I am not saying no one else will be good this year or that they wont contribute but as far as playing a significant role to their team next year the 4 I mentioned are likely to be the only big men in the draft who will have a chance to be a real factor next season.

Again i like COLLISON also but not at the deal you want to do

by the way JASON needs to stop complaining to the reefs so much & mature , he needs to add about 20 pounds more of bulk & be a little bit more consistant once he does these things he will emerge as a bigtime player . He already has proven he can rebound , score , he hustles , has alot of heart & energy , he's a team player etc. It is not the time to give up on JASON at all . If you do you better get alot better value !
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Re: Darren Collison 

Post#22 » by SacTown Kings » Mon Jun 14, 2010 2:35 am

mitchweber wrote:It depends on what we want to try to do in FA this offseason. If we really want to try to do something, I think we need to add a more valuable piece.

Thompson
#5

for

Collison
#11

And then we draft Whiteside at 11 (making it more acceptable to trade one of our bigs).


Either take Thompson out and insert Hawes or take out the draft picks then it's fair. However I think the whole point of NO trading Collison is to get rid of one of their big contracts so I don't think this is realistic as is.
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Re: Darren Collison 

Post#23 » by crazybranman360 » Thu Jun 17, 2010 8:22 pm

I really think the Kings need to get a PG. While Evans' CAN play PG his best role is being a go to scorer. They need a PG and i like Collison so here's what I would do to get him.

Collison + Morris Peterson for Carl Landry.

This makes sense. Hornets clean lux tax room and get a good 6th man in Landry. For the kings they get there PG and it allows them to draft a big man in this draft.

As far as the draft goes I really like Tayshaun + 7th for 5th + Beno. Kings take Cole Aldrich or Ed Davis. New Depth Chart.

PG: Darren Collison
SG: Tyreke Evans
SF: Tayshaun Prince
PF: Jason Thompson
C: Cole Aldrich

F: Omri Casspi
G/F: Donte Green
C: Sam Dalembert
G: Fransico Garcia

With a core of Evans, Collison, Aldrich, Thompson, and next years #1 (Barnes, Perry Jones?) the Kings are set for the future
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Re: Darren Collison 

Post#24 » by LosBreezy » Fri Jun 25, 2010 11:07 pm

I think getting Collison would be a fabulous idea. Greene and something for him? Darren Collison averaged 25+ pts, 10+ assist when Paul was out. Kings definitely need to take a look at him. Hes a great playmaker. Our lineup would look ridiculous.

Collison, Evans, Casspi, Cousins, Dalembert.
Outstanding and not to mention the bench.

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