2016 Free Agency Thread

[LightTheBeam]

>Marc Stein says we would like Crabbe.

Now that's more like it.

Came here to post this lol. This would be the perfect fit and if his choices are between us the Nets and Philly I like are chances unless those guys overpay a lot. Wonder what it takes for Portland not to match?

[teerfour+40LG]

>Marc Stein says we would like Crabbe.

Now that's more like it.

Came here to post this lol. This would be the perfect fit and if his choices are between us the Nets and Philly I like are chances unless those guys overpay a lot. Wonder what it takes for Portland not to match?

You know what is interesting about Crabbe? He has the same RPM numbers as our own RFA Seth Curry. Check players 27 and 28. http://espn.go.com/nba/statistics/rpm/_/sort/ORPM/position/2 So, we could just re-sign our own guy.

[PaKwAn]

yikes...please don't go after dion waiters vlade! if the nba draft left a lot of fans confused,this signing would be an icing to that cake...

"Per league sources"

His defense is pretty bad still right?

around this time of the year,agents are going to use us as leverage..so we wouldn't really know who is telling the truth...

about dion, based on the eye test especially during the playoffs he actually did a good job on defense especially when he uses his strength.. the problem i have with him is the his style of play and his fit with this team.

[DusterBuster]

>Marc Stein says we would like Crabbe.

Now that's more like it.

Came here to post this lol. This would be the perfect fit and if his choices are between us the Nets and Philly I like are chances unless those guys overpay a lot. Wonder what it takes for Portland not to match?

Against my personal wishes, I think Portland is prepared to match a pretty high number on Crabbe. He's an OK player, but really not worth the kind of numbers that have been thrown around with his name. If he were an unrestricted FA, I think Crabbe's number is probably around the MLE. Maybe a touch higher, but not by much. Having him be restricted over inflates his FA price-tag.

If it were my choice, I wouldn't go over 10mil per year for him. What he brings is far from irreplaceable for Portland, once you start getting into the 11-12 mil range, there are plenty of guys who could bring a halfway decent 3pt shot with overrated defense to the table for that price. However, I know Olshey and co like consistency, so I suspect they're ready to match anything upwards of 13mil per for him. I'd be much happier seeing Portland take that 13mil tho, maybe throwing a couple extra mil on top of it and going after a guy like Kent Bazemore, who I think is a fairly substantial upgrade from Crabbe.

[sackings916]

Jeremy Lin as first guard off the bench backing up both PG and SG would be a good fit.

It'd be good but seems like he's looking for and would land a starting spot. Who would start tho?

Collison but you could pretty much interchange either. Both would play 30+ mpg and I would think play together as well.

[Jkam31]

Actually if we offered Crabbe 14mill and they didn't want to match a sign an trade with them is perfect for both teams. KK/Ben for Crabbe they in a dire need for a center and Ben is I've on the top.

With Crabbe we can than sign Courtney Lee than sign and trade Gay for Ruan Anderson.

Collison
Lee
Crabbe
Anderson
DMC

>Marc Stein says we would like Crabbe.

Now that's more like it.

Came here to post this lol. This would be the perfect fit and if his choices are between us the Nets and Philly I like are chances unless those guys overpay a lot. Wonder what it takes for Portland not to match?

Against my personal wishes, I think Portland is prepared to match a pretty high number on Crabbe. He's an OK player, but really not worth the kind of numbers that have been thrown around with his name. If he were an unrestricted FA, I think Crabbe's number is probably around the MLE. Maybe a touch higher, but not by much. Having him be restricted over inflates his FA price-tag.

If it were my choice, I wouldn't go over 10mil per year for him. What he brings is far from irreplaceable for Portland, once you start getting into the 11-12 mil range, there are plenty of guys who could bring a halfway decent 3pt shot with overrated defense to the table for that price. However, I know Olshey and co like consistency, so I suspect they're ready to match anything upwards of 13mil per for him. I'd be much happier seeing Portland take that 13mil tho, maybe throwing a couple extra mil on top of it and going after a guy like Kent Bazemore, who I think is a fairly substantial upgrade from Crabbe.

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[ChokeFasncists]

Jeremy Lin as first guard off the bench backing up both PG and SG would be a good fit.

It'd be good but seems like he's looking for and would land a starting spot. Who would start tho?

Collison but you could pretty much interchange either. Both would play 30+ mpg and I would think play together as well.

Well, Collison probably wouldn't be starting at the beginning of the season...... after that, I think him coming off the bench would be better cuz Lin is the more pass first kinda PG, the better defender and has more size. With enough good scorers in the starting lineup, especially with a great scoring big like DMC, Lin would make more sense. (Lin PnR and throwing lobs to DMC ) The two could definitely play together for long stretches; Lin can guard SGs no problem; Collison could provide instant offense off the bench.

[sackings916]

It'd be good but seems like he's looking for and would land a starting spot. Who would start tho?

Collison but you could pretty much interchange either. Both would play 30+ mpg and I would think play together as well.

Well, Collison probably wouldn't be starting at the beginning of the season...... after that, I think him coming off the bench would be better cuz Lin is the more pass first kinda PG, the better defender and has more size. With enough good scorers in the starting lineup, especially with a great scoring big like DMC, Lin would make more sense. (Lin PnR and throwing lobs to DMC ) The two could definitely play together for long stretches; Lin can guard SGs no problem; Collison could provide instant offense off the bench.

Like I mentioned they'd pretty much be interchangeable..either way I see both averaging around 30 mpg while seeing the court together a good amount. While I think both are underrated I think Lin got some exposure last season. Collison is still under the radar but a good quality PG with no real holes in his game.

[longfellow44]

Looking at numbers I think jeremy lin might be the perfect point guard for this roster. He doesn't pound the ball much. Gets out in transition well. He's opportunistic in scoring and assisted on a lot of his 3pt shots. He can play bit of pg and sg effectively and defensively he is very solid. He seems like a taller Collison to me. I fully endorse adding him to the roster of we can.

[OGSactownballer]

yikes...please don't go after dion waiters vlade! if the nba draft left a lot of fans confused,this signing would be an icing to that cake...

"Per league sources"

His defense is pretty bad still right?

around this time of the year,agents are going to use us as leverage..so we wouldn't really know who is telling the truth...

about dion, based on the eye test especially during the playoffs he actually did a good job on defense especially when he uses his strength.. the problem i have with him is the his style of play and his fit with this team.

Yeah exactly what we need. Another SG with an unreliable jump shot.

[jeffjtk1234]

Waiters would be a pretty horrible pickup


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[DusterBuster]

Actually if we offered Crabbe 14mill and they didn't want to match a sign an trade with them is perfect for both teams. KK/Ben for Crabbe they in a dire need for a center and Ben is I've on the top.

With Crabbe we can than sign Courtney Lee than sign and trade Gay for Ruan Anderson.

Collison
Lee
Crabbe
Anderson
DMC

At 14 mil, that S&T fine with me. Would feel bad for you guys though. That's a terrible waste of money.

[LightTheBeam]

>Marc Stein says we would like Crabbe.

Now that's more like it.

Came here to post this lol. This would be the perfect fit and if his choices are between us the Nets and Philly I like are chances unless those guys overpay a lot. Wonder what it takes for Portland not to match?

You know what is interesting about Crabbe? He has the same RPM numbers as our own RFA Seth Curry. Check players 27 and 28. http://espn.go.com/nba/statistics/rpm/_/sort/ORPM/position/2 So, we could just re-sign our own guy.

I'd be happy grabbing both. I think Curry is poised for a great year should he get the minutes. Difference between the two is Crabbe brings size.

[LightTheBeam]

Actually if we offered Crabbe 14mill and they didn't want to match a sign an trade with them is perfect for both teams. KK/Ben for Crabbe they in a dire need for a center and Ben is I've on the top.

With Crabbe we can than sign Courtney Lee than sign and trade Gay for Ruan Anderson.

Collison
Lee
Crabbe
Anderson
DMC

At 14 mil, that S&T fine with me. Would feel bad for you guys though. That's a terrible waste of money.

I would jump all over that especially if we could s&t Ben Mac and Koufos. Id love it if it was even just Koufos. Basically either we would be spending an additional 2 million or without Ben 6 million to bring in Crabbe who fills a much bigger need than either of those guys.

I am not saying hes great, but he is definitely one of those players that improved when given the opportunity and shot nearly 40% from 3 downtown. He also brings legit size on the wing. I'd love to take the chance that this kid will improve.

[DusterBuster]

Actually if we offered Crabbe 14mill and they didn't want to match a sign an trade with them is perfect for both teams. KK/Ben for Crabbe they in a dire need for a center and Ben is I've on the top.

With Crabbe we can than sign Courtney Lee than sign and trade Gay for Ruan Anderson.

Collison
Lee
Crabbe
Anderson
DMC

At 14 mil, that S&T fine with me. Would feel bad for you guys though. That's a terrible waste of money.

I would jump all over that especially if we could s&t Ben Mac and Koufos. Id love it if it was even just Koufos. Basically either we would be spending an additional 2 million or without Ben 6 million to bring in Crabbe who fills a much bigger need than either of those guys.

I am not saying hes great, but he is definitely one of those players that improved when given the opportunity and shot nearly 40% from 3 downtown. He also brings legit size on the wing. I'd love to take the chance that this kid will improve.

Terry Stotts offense inflates guys 3pt percentages quite honestly. Those guys shoot so high because his motion offense gets them tons and tons of open looks and he's constantly encouraging guys to shoot. If you have a coach who runs a different style and is less encouraging to guys to shoot, his percentages will have a noticeable drop. On top of that, Crabbe is a wildly limited player. He's a half-way decent 3pt shooter, but he brings almost nothing to the table. His defense isn't anything to write home about, he can't create off the dribble and he's not a great passer. He's basically a catch and shoot jumpshooter.... and that's it.

I think teams infatuation with Crabbe will be amazingly short-lived.

Portland would absolutely want both KK and Ben back btw.

[City of Trees]

Check out this thread found on the GB. He uses a formula to predict what free agents value should be with the new cap figures.

http://forums.realgm.com/boards/viewtopic.php?t=1458469

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[SacKingZZZ]

>Marc Stein says we would like Crabbe.

Now that's more like it.

Came here to post this lol. This would be the perfect fit and if his choices are between us the Nets and Philly I like are chances unless those guys overpay a lot. Wonder what it takes for Portland not to match?

Against my personal wishes, I think Portland is prepared to match a pretty high number on Crabbe. He's an OK player, but really not worth the kind of numbers that have been thrown around with his name. If he were an unrestricted FA, I think Crabbe's number is probably around the MLE. Maybe a touch higher, but not by much. Having him be restricted over inflates his FA price-tag.

If it were my choice, I wouldn't go over 10mil per year for him. What he brings is far from irreplaceable for Portland, once you start getting into the 11-12 mil range, there are plenty of guys who could bring a halfway decent 3pt shot with overrated defense to the table for that price. However, I know Olshey and co like consistency, so I suspect they're ready to match anything upwards of 13mil per for him. I'd be much happier seeing Portland take that 13mil tho, maybe throwing a couple extra mil on top of it and going after a guy like Kent Bazemore, who I think is a fairly substantial upgrade from Crabbe.

I think Vlade would be willing to part with a sign and trade piece like McLemore to make it more palatable for the Blazers.

This could be a tough FA year for Portland. It's dangerous when you are a team needing to add a significant piece or two and at the same time you need to re-sign large chunks of your own team while almost every team has max salary slots available. Keeping them all might mean losing out on adding another star player. I think Portland could be a desirable location and they should be able to add a name big man to that puzzle. It will probably come at the cost of someone like Crabbe though.

Also, Crabbe will most likely be looking at the starting spot with a team like Sacramento or Philly so going back to the bench in Portland might not be what he's looking for. I guess we will see. But just for reminder, Vlade went almost full max on Wes Matthews coming off a major injury.

[SacKingZZZ]

I'm interested to see what Isaiah Cousins brings to the team in SL. I think the Kings may have gotten a bit of steal with him. He's that perfect fit type of PG the Kings need. He's a 3 and D type with size to switch. That would be awesome if he comes and solidifies that PG spot so the Kings don't have to really concern themselves too much. Come back with Curry, Cousins, and Collison and you are good to go. SL will be really important this year.

[SacKingZZZ]

I'm just crossing my fingers we hear that the Kings are interested in Solomon Hill. If they somehow landed both Hill and Lee, they will have just put together the best defensive wing combo in the league. Then sign and trade for Anderson using Gay.

[Sheva7]

I'm just crossing my fingers we hear that the Kings are interested in Solomon Hill. If they somehow landed both Hill and Lee, they will have just put together the best defensive wing combo in the league. Then sign and trade for Anderson using Gay.

Why would we want to do a sign and trade? If we needed to clear cap to sign Anderson we could easily trade Gay for future picks. It makes no sense to give him away for nothing if we can sign Anderson on our own.