mitchweber wrote:-= original quote snipped =-
I'm not talking about like "Hey Ron! You suck!" Let's not forget that this is the same crowd that booed Derrick Fisher for leaving them so that his baby daughter with cancer could get the best care possible.
_SRV_ wrote:-= original quote snipped =-
That's BS from what I heard, Fisher's daughter is still getting treated in NY, but Fisher is playing in LA, let's cut the utes some slack.
xstockholmsyndromex wrote:-= original quote snipped =-
QFT. Last I heard, Fisher's daughter is still receiving treatment in NY, and some treatment in LA. Fisher used his daughter as an excuse to get out of his contract, plain and simple. He didnt want to play second fiddle to Deron Williams. I think he had some conversations with Kobe about coming back to LA before he ever asked the Jazz to be let out of his contract. Things were Fish-y with D-Fish's departure, but Im glad he left. He opened up more money for our team, and I really didnt think he did much for our team. Also, he wasnt boo-ed because of his daughter, he was booed for becoming a Laker. Utah fans dont like the Lakers.
You can try to vilify the Jazz and their fan base all you want, but remember these are the same Jazz fans that supported Fisher through his daughters ordeal. He was booed for leaving Utah for LA and nothing more.
xx_skaterdude_xx wrote:-= original quote snipped =-
Trying to get another thread locked?
xstockholmsyndromex wrote:-= original quote snipped =-
For what, sharing my opinion. I guess its okay for eveyone else to share their opinion on a subject, but if its not the opinion that the powers that be have, then it gets locked. I guess maybe I ought to throw in some anti-mormon comments and then I might fit in around here, because comments like that dont seem to matter on this board.
shortodom wrote:true but if you think about it, artest says he will opt out and he'll probably sign elsewhere next year. so it's kinda like getting Crittenton for nothing.
xx_skaterdude_xx wrote:-= original quote snipped =-
Yeah, I agree, but Brown would have no playing time on the Kings and bring no cap relief to the Kings at all. You would have to take KT or SAR to make the deal appealing to the Kings. While I love Critt's game, it isn't worth it at all unless it gets rid of one of our longer contacts. And remember, this is Ron Artest we are talking about...just because he says something today, doesn't mean he'll stick to it tomorrow.
With your reasoning, if Arenas said he was going to opt out and MIGHT sign elsewhere next year, then the Wizards should just trade him right now for Quincy Douby, so they won't lose him for nothing.
deNIEd wrote:-= original quote snipped =-
This is horrible logic. If we aren't going to resign Artest, which does seem like the case because it would push us over the tax since no one else has been moved. Then trading Artest for Kwame + Critt, is just getting Critt for free. Which gives us another trading asset for the future.
If we are rebuilding, then you get whatever positive assets you can. Losing Artest for nothing, does not help at all. Getting a 2nd is better than getting nothing.
I would rather let Artest WALK than go to the Lakers UNLESS we get something back in the deal that we can USE. shortodom wrote:Crittenton has a bright future
SacTown Kings wrote:The funny thing I keep hearing from Lakers fans is "isn't it better to get something". The Lakers are also getting something for nothing. Kwame is not going to re-sign, and I doubt the Lakers try hard to re-sign him. So they are using Kwame to gain something. And they think we are going to turn them into contenders over Critt., please! Taking Kenny Thomas is just a given, otherwise no trade happens, even then the trade is questionable.
Kings should just let Artest walk. Let all these teams that only want to give up junk, make them pay the luxury tax for Artest. It will hinder that team's ability to improve in the future if they are in luxury tax range, this indirectly can help us. So it's not a negative to let Artest walk. Either that or Artest accepts the MLE on his last big payday. We don't owe anybody any favors.
Jajwanda wrote:-= original quote snipped =-
I didn't say anything about you owing us a damn thing. It doesn't send us into luxury tax next season if we sign him and besides, improve your team stop worrying about the Lakers. We're one team out of 29 the Kings must improve against. Improve yourselves and you already have put down the Lakers. Last I checked we don't even lead the division and the rivalry is over.
2 first round picks, including one who's currently doing well in his limited playing time is great for nothing.
You're the one who's getting something for nothing, not the Lakers. Taking Kenny Thomas isn't a given in anything. Nobody wants to take on Kenny Thomas and rumor has even come about that doesn't include a hefty contract coming back to Sacramento that would include Thomas. That doesn't mean I wouldn't consider it but making a case to hurt Jerry Buss' pocket books is not exactly soemthing that should excite King fans. He has the money, he just prefers not to have to spend it...
KingInExile wrote:-= original quote snipped =-
I guess we should bow down and thank you for your benevolent and gracious offer to take Artest off our hands. Oh thank you kind sir, may I have another!
Sure, Petrie would prefer to get something of value for Artest. Unfortunately Crittenton and Kwame's expiring contract are far from appropriate value. Plain and simple, the appropriate value for Artest is an upgrade at the 4 and/or moving a useless contract like Kenny Thomas. Kwame certainly is not going to provide an upgrade for us at the 4. Crittenton is a decent young talent, but he doesn't fulfill the requirement of upgrading the 4 for us. So we are left with moving KT as the only other way to make the deal happen. If the Lakers don't want KT, then fine...don't expect the Kings to deal you Artest. It's not a hard concept to understand.
