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Post#81 » by BoogieTime » Wed Jun 12, 2024 5:56 am

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FarBeyondDriven wrote:anyone have any sources to let us know who if any, we've brought in for workouts?


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I've always trusted Monte's eye so hopefully that list means something. "Bub" Carrington did seem to pop a little more than most of the others I saw small clips of to me (don't know about Kyshawn Gorge or the others though). Kingsfans.com has started to appreciate him a bit from perusing their thread. His body came in a little less impressive at the combine, but still some talent (not that I expect us to draft)
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Post#82 » by BoogieTime » Wed Jun 12, 2024 4:39 pm

^^ though unfortunately he is now 12 at nbadraft, I thought he would raise
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Post#83 » by OxAndFox » Wed Jun 12, 2024 5:50 pm

My list @ #13 would include now. Word has it Devin Carter has received a promise in the lottery. Could it be with Memphis where his dad is??? A lot of mocks now have him at Chicago. It means someone like Knecht, Topic,

1 - Kel'El Ware - His improvement with shooting should translate down the road and is there a better fit with Sabonis? Early on I thought it would end up being Missi, but Ware is better right now and has better measurements to be that true elite defensive big.

2 - Cody Williams - Even though he is raw the potential in his playmaking and D is genuine. If Monk leaves the Kings are going to need to replace his playmaking and while Williams wouldn't see a ton of court time in his first year it might leave an opportunity for a rookie.

3 - Tristan Da Silva - He will get minutes right away for the Kings and plugs a lot of holes. Doesn't have the top end potential, but he is a good shooter, moves off the ball, active defensively. Is a senior. What more does Monte want?? Could even trade down to get him IMO, but will GMs make the same mistake over and over by underselling "older" rookies?

Someone will fall. Expecting two of Topic, Sheppard, Dillingham to fall and Castle will go in the top 2. If Sarr goes #1 the Wizards would be crazy not to put it all in on Castle.
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Post#84 » by BoogieTime » Wed Jun 12, 2024 8:37 pm

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FarBeyondDriven wrote:anyone have any sources to let us know who if any, we've brought in for workouts?


A partial list, per HoopsHype:
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I find it absolutely fascinating that every guy listed here is rated at 20 or lower.

That is awfully suspicious for a trade down.


As I stated above, that likely won’t be necessary for Carrington who is at 12 now at nbadraft. IMO it’s likely he will be gone
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Re: 2024 NBA Draft Thread 

Post#85 » by codydaze » Thu Jun 13, 2024 2:05 am

BoogieTime wrote:
OGSactownballer wrote:
typedrat wrote:
A partial list, per HoopsHype:
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I find it absolutely fascinating that every guy listed here is rated at 20 or lower.

That is awfully suspicious for a trade down.


As I stated above, that likely won’t be necessary for Carrington who is at 12 now at nbadraft. IMO it’s likely he will be gone


I'm not as high on Carrington, especially for this team, but FWIW nbadraft.net has been pretty awful for a while now.
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Post#86 » by BoogieTime » Thu Jun 13, 2024 3:28 am

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OGSactownballer wrote:
I find it absolutely fascinating that every guy listed here is rated at 20 or lower.

That is awfully suspicious for a trade down.


As I stated above, that likely won’t be necessary for Carrington who is at 12 now at nbadraft. IMO it’s likely he will be gone


I'm not as high on Carrington, especially for this team, but FWIW nbadraft.net has been pretty awful for a while now.


lol, yeah. it used to be the goto, over the years its became more and more unkept. Now its pretty messed up. I mainly go out of habit though im sure there are a lot better (ringer/athletic/espn/countless other national sites/websites/niche sites that exist). There are so many mocks now and so many national writers have different takes where it seems like you can take a given player and find someone who likes him more than they should. Still, I'll believe Carrington will be available when I see it (and I think there will be a solid chance he will be the selection if the pick isnt traded) - though admittedly I only saw clips of who was ranked 13-30 at nbadraft a few weeks ago, and then small write-ups of who I liked, where Carrington popped to me without thinking of positional need of the team (so I dont have an opinion on those who may fall from high on mocks or those who were ranked very low). I agree, guard isn't a need, and it would certainly be preferable if the pick was positionally a forward, though I think you go bpa always. I still think the pick will be moved though, I'll be surprised if we draft but maybe Monte will be so out of trade options.. I'm not high on who is readily available in the trade market either, and have been softening my stance on drafting in the face of such options, but I still think they will move the pick for a vet.
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Post#87 » by dckingsfan » Sun Jun 16, 2024 8:05 pm

Yves Missi?
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Post#88 » by BoogieTime » Mon Jun 17, 2024 12:06 am

dckingsfan wrote:Yves Missi?


What about him?
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Post#89 » by dckingsfan » Mon Jun 17, 2024 1:26 am

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dckingsfan wrote:Yves Missi?

What about him?

Do you like him as a backup to Sabonis? Probably not with the 13th pick but... it seems like he would be a great fit.
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Post#90 » by BoogieTime » Mon Jun 17, 2024 2:03 am

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dckingsfan wrote:Yves Missi?

What about him?

Do you like him as a backup to Sabonis? Probably not with the 13th pick but... it seems like he would be a great fit.


Its hard to get past the non fit with Domas for me, and from the little footage I saw his offense left a lot to be desired for me personally, but I know some others on this board really like him and even dont mind the fit with Domas
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Post#91 » by madskillz8 » Mon Jun 17, 2024 3:42 am

I hope T. Salaun somehow drops to 13, like Haliburton did.

Any update on predraft workouts we held?
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Post#92 » by typedrat » Mon Jun 17, 2024 11:44 am

I hope he doesn't, because he's absolute dogwater who probably won't ever be good and is definitely multiple years away regardless.
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Post#93 » by dckingsfan » Mon Jun 17, 2024 2:08 pm

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BoogieTime wrote:What about him?

Do you like him as a backup to Sabonis? Probably not with the 13th pick but... it seems like he would be a great fit.

Its hard to get past the non fit with Domas for me, and from the little footage I saw his offense left a lot to be desired for me personally, but I know some others on this board really like him and even dont mind the fit with Domas

Agreed, I think that Sabonis fits with anyone - he is that good.

I was thinking the minutes where Sabonis is sitting as his backup.
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Post#94 » by typedrat » Mon Jun 17, 2024 9:37 pm

He is one of the best players in the league, but he's not as plug-and-play as you seem to think. Watching his tape with the Thunder, the Pacers and the Lithuanian National Team makes that clear. He is a true 5 through and through, and although he does produce other kinds of spacing, he doesn't shoot from deep enough or have the ability to keep up with other wings to be able to play PF, or even PF-leaning minutes in a twin-tower lineup.
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Post#95 » by OxAndFox » Mon Jun 17, 2024 10:54 pm

typedrat wrote:He is one of the best players in the league, but he's not as plug-and-play as you seem to think. Watching his tape with the Thunder, the Pacers and the Lithuanian National Team makes that clear. He is a true 5 through and through, and although he does produce other kinds of spacing, he doesn't shoot from deep enough or have the ability to keep up with other wings to be able to play PF, or even PF-leaning minutes in a twin-tower lineup.


I think he was playing on Towns in the Towns/Gobert match up so he was on the perimeter more. If I remember he did a pretty good job with that.
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Post#96 » by OxAndFox » Mon Jun 17, 2024 10:57 pm

typedrat wrote:I hope he doesn't, because he's absolute dogwater who probably won't ever be good and is definitely multiple years away regardless.


Man, what did he do to you? :lol:

I don't think he would be a bad choice. Definitely a swing for the fences type of pick, but I could understand why they would make the pick.
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Post#97 » by BoogieTime » Mon Jun 17, 2024 11:29 pm

Well, apparently they brought in Edey and Ware so maybe Monte thinks Domas can play more 4

I’m not sure KAT has more athleticism than Domas, and adding a 5 really cleaned up Minnesota (albeit Gobert) defensively. Still, not sure about it. But that’s defensively, not sure someone like Missi with little outside O helps Domas or Fox (apparently Edey was showing range at the combine)
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Post#98 » by OxAndFox » Tue Jun 18, 2024 1:08 am

BoogieTime wrote:Well, apparently they brought in Edey and Ware so maybe Monte thinks Domas can play more 4

I’m not sure KAT has more athleticism than Domas, and adding a 5 really cleaned up Minnesota (albeit Gobert) defensively. Still, not sure about it. But that’s defensively, not sure someone like Missi with little outside O helps Domas or Fox (apparently Edey was showing range at the combine)


I still wouldn't trust Edey's shooting. His size and length is unquestionable though and would help out a lot on the inside, but if you're looking for someone to play minutes with Sabonis, I don't see it. Not that he would get minutes right away or anything, the plan could be to keep Len around while Edey learns. Sabonis would have to be the 4. IMO you need to look for someone that can play the 4 alongside Domas while also playing the backup 5.

Ware is someone that could legitimately play alongside Sabonis right away given his athletic ability and defensive profile. He is athletic enough to go up against backup 4s IMO and can play in a faster pace. I've been trying to watch more on his dribbling etc and I've been impressed with playmaking, or rather just making a good read and hitting the cutter, or open man.

It's the reason he has jumped to my #1 for the Kings. Lock me in as someone who highly doubts he is available though. I think at absolute worst Memphis gets him at #9 and IMO he should go a lot higher than that, in fact, I will wager a decent penny he will be better than Sarr.
Honestly, he is the perfect fit for Sabonis.

The only team that wouldn't be taking him in the lottery and probably still should is Houston.
Atlanta (as I mentioned I think he is better than Sarr), Wizards, Spurs x 2 (next to Wemby would be a nightmare for oppo teams), Detroit, Charlotte, Portland x 2, Memphis, Utah, Chicago, OKC and Sacramento would all be perfect fits for him.
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Post#99 » by typedrat » Tue Jun 18, 2024 1:28 am

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typedrat wrote:I hope he doesn't, because he's absolute dogwater who probably won't ever be good and is definitely multiple years away regardless.


Man, what did he do to you? :lol:

I don't think he would be a bad choice. Definitely a swing for the fences type of pick, but I could understand why they would make the pick.


I've seen enough of these hot prospects with great physical tools and energy but who can't shoot, plan, improvise, handle the ball, or read opposing plays to know how they usually turn out. I don't understand why so many people are lining up for the next Bruno Caboclo.
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Post#100 » by OxAndFox » Tue Jun 18, 2024 6:26 am

typedrat wrote:
OxAndFox wrote:
typedrat wrote:I hope he doesn't, because he's absolute dogwater who probably won't ever be good and is definitely multiple years away regardless.


Man, what did he do to you? :lol:

I don't think he would be a bad choice. Definitely a swing for the fences type of pick, but I could understand why they would make the pick.


I've seen enough of these hot prospects with great physical tools and energy but who can't shoot, plan, improvise, handle the ball, or read opposing plays to know how they usually turn out. I don't understand why so many people are lining up for the next Bruno Caboclo.


Or Giannis.

Nah, I do get your point. 99% of the time they don't work out. And with these types of guys it's not even about your development team, it's either they're going to be great....or not.

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