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It’s not a pay cut, though. His agent can still use his name, image and likeness, plus additional national endorsements, a shoe deal, and all that stuff. He’s gonna make way more than 28 mil this/next year.
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Flagg, Wemby, Luka and Zion – how would you rank them as prospects coming into the league?
I think I'd go Wemby (solidly ahead), then Luka, Flagg and finally Zion. Zion, to me, was just a bit more risky even though his ceiling was up there with anyone and his year at Duke was next level. I'm very uncertain about Luka versus Flagg, though.
I think I'd go Wemby (solidly ahead), then Luka, Flagg and finally Zion. Zion, to me, was just a bit more risky even though his ceiling was up there with anyone and his year at Duke was next level. I'm very uncertain about Luka versus Flagg, though.
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The-Power wrote:Flagg, Wemby, Luka and Zion – how would you rank them as prospects coming into the league?
I think I'd go Wemby (solidly ahead), then Luka, Flagg and finally Zion. Zion, to me, was just a bit more risky even though his ceiling was up there with anyone and his year at Duke was next level. I'm very uncertain about Luka versus Flagg, though.
I would see it as pretty much the same, although I think Wemby vs Luka is an interesting discussion. Luka was a better player than Wemby at 19 but I do think Wemby still had a higher ceiling which bolsters his case.
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Braggins wrote:The-Power wrote:Flagg, Wemby, Luka and Zion – how would you rank them as prospects coming into the league?
I think I'd go Wemby (solidly ahead), then Luka, Flagg and finally Zion. Zion, to me, was just a bit more risky even though his ceiling was up there with anyone and his year at Duke was next level. I'm very uncertain about Luka versus Flagg, though.
I would see it as pretty much the same, although I think Wemby vs Luka is an interesting discussion. Luka was a better player than Wemby at 19 but I do think Wemby still had a higher ceiling which bolsters his case.
I can see that point – and Luka was certainly more accomplished – but by the end of the season prior to the draft I'm not even sure if Luka was a better player than Victor. Before the season I would have completely agreed but Victor took a huge step forward and showed incredible impact at which point he went from ‘insanely talented’ to ‘insanely talented but also really good already’.
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The-Power wrote:Flagg, Wemby, Luka and Zion – how would you rank them as prospects coming into the league?
I think I'd go Wemby (solidly ahead), then Luka, Flagg and finally Zion. Zion, to me, was just a bit more risky even though his ceiling was up there with anyone and his year at Duke was next level. I'm very uncertain about Luka versus Flagg, though.
Luka was ranked much higher than Flagg as a prospect by those who knew what they were talking about. Unfortunately Robert Sarver and Vlade Divac were not among them. That was one of the few drafts in recent memory when you basically knew on draft night that the guy going 3rd was better than the top 2 picks. Completely foreseeable at the time that it was an obvious mistake.
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One_and_Done wrote:The-Power wrote:Flagg, Wemby, Luka and Zion – how would you rank them as prospects coming into the league?
I think I'd go Wemby (solidly ahead), then Luka, Flagg and finally Zion. Zion, to me, was just a bit more risky even though his ceiling was up there with anyone and his year at Duke was next level. I'm very uncertain about Luka versus Flagg, though.
Luka was ranked much higher than Flagg as a prospect by those who knew what they were talking about. Unfortunately Robert Sarver and Vlade Divac were not among them. That was one of the few drafts in recent memory when you basically knew on draft night that the guy going 3rd was better than the top 2 picks. Completely foreseeable at the time that it was an obvious mistake.
I see people are still pretending Luka didn't force his way to Dallas just like he forced his way to LA. Weird how ATL and DAL had a trade worked out weeks before the draft because they knew he'd fall to ATL.
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FarBeyondDriven wrote:One_and_Done wrote:The-Power wrote:Flagg, Wemby, Luka and Zion – how would you rank them as prospects coming into the league?
I think I'd go Wemby (solidly ahead), then Luka, Flagg and finally Zion. Zion, to me, was just a bit more risky even though his ceiling was up there with anyone and his year at Duke was next level. I'm very uncertain about Luka versus Flagg, though.
Luka was ranked much higher than Flagg as a prospect by those who knew what they were talking about. Unfortunately Robert Sarver and Vlade Divac were not among them. That was one of the few drafts in recent memory when you basically knew on draft night that the guy going 3rd was better than the top 2 picks. Completely foreseeable at the time that it was an obvious mistake.
I see people are still pretending Luka didn't force his way to Dallas just like he forced his way to LA. Weird how ATL and DAL had a trade worked out weeks before the draft because they knew he'd fall to ATL.
Luka didn't force his way to Dallas. That's insanely revisionist. The Suns and Kings had ridiculous decision makers who bizarrely passed on him, while being clowned in real time for doing so.
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Indomitable wrote:
Holy Pay cut![]()
There will eventually be legislation against or a away to cap it.
Why shouldn't he make that much money?
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Coop didn't make $28 mln in one year.
He got signed to longer term endorsement deals. Brands threw money at him to lock up good value for the first few years. If Cooper signs the deal now as #1 pick or after his 20/8, them prices are gonna triple at minimum.
He got signed to longer term endorsement deals. Brands threw money at him to lock up good value for the first few years. If Cooper signs the deal now as #1 pick or after his 20/8, them prices are gonna triple at minimum.
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Those Tatum comparisons are done with. I won’t say he sucks because it’s one half but I’ve said the same thing consistently. FLAGG CANT DRIBBLE. He’s not Tatum, this board needs to stop with the lazy comparisons. He isn’t a point guard nor point forward. He’s a gadget player, simple as that. A draymond green type, he’ll never be the best player on a championship team
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Lebron made it to the finals with that cleveland team.
Bird would have won 4 rings with that team, in this weak ass era of basketball.
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bigboi wrote:Those Tatum comparisons are done with. I won’t say he sucks because it’s one half but I’ve said the same thing consistently. FLAGG CANT DRIBBLE. He’s not Tatum, this board needs to stop with the lazy comparisons. He isn’t a point guard nor point forward. He’s a gadget player, simple as that. A draymond green type, he’ll never be the best player on a championship team
It's just an awkward team without Kyrie. The spacing is a joke. I think the Mavs need to start Brandon Williams going forward
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azcatz11 wrote:bigboi wrote:Those Tatum comparisons are done with. I won’t say he sucks because it’s one half but I’ve said the same thing consistently. FLAGG CANT DRIBBLE. He’s not Tatum, this board needs to stop with the lazy comparisons. He isn’t a point guard nor point forward. He’s a gadget player, simple as that. A draymond green type, he’ll never be the best player on a championship team
It's just an awkward team without Kyrie. The spacing is a joke. I think the Mavs need to start Brandon Williams going forward
Buddy. Stop with the excuses. Edge comb came into a way worse situation than Flagg and still looked great
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Lebron made it to the finals with that cleveland team.
Bird would have won 4 rings with that team, in this weak ass era of basketball.
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bigboi wrote:Those Tatum comparisons are done with. I won’t say he sucks because it’s one half but I’ve said the same thing consistently. FLAGG CANT DRIBBLE. He’s not Tatum, this board needs to stop with the lazy comparisons. He isn’t a point guard nor point forward. He’s a gadget player, simple as that. A draymond green type, he’ll never be the best player on a championship team
Lmao figured you would show up again at the first sight of a mediocre game.
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JMAC3 wrote:bigboi wrote:Those Tatum comparisons are done with. I won’t say he sucks because it’s one half but I’ve said the same thing consistently. FLAGG CANT DRIBBLE. He’s not Tatum, this board needs to stop with the lazy comparisons. He isn’t a point guard nor point forward. He’s a gadget player, simple as that. A draymond green type, he’ll never be the best player on a championship team
Lmao figured you would show up again at the first sight of a mediocre game.
“Mediocre”. Just call it what it actually is. A bad game. And I would’ve shown up preseason if that were the case
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Lebron made it to the finals with that cleveland team.
Bird would have won 4 rings with that team, in this weak ass era of basketball.
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bigboi wrote:JMAC3 wrote:bigboi wrote:Those Tatum comparisons are done with. I won’t say he sucks because it’s one half but I’ve said the same thing consistently. FLAGG CANT DRIBBLE. He’s not Tatum, this board needs to stop with the lazy comparisons. He isn’t a point guard nor point forward. He’s a gadget player, simple as that. A draymond green type, he’ll never be the best player on a championship team
Lmao figured you would show up again at the first sight of a mediocre game.
“Mediocre”. Just call it what it actually is. A bad game. And I would’ve shown up preseason if that were the casedon’t ever compare this dude to Tatum ever again in your life
You disappeared for like 8 months after you said Flagg was horrible, couldn't dribble, shoot and had a worse offensive game than Ben Simmons. Why? Because Flagg started dominating and you went into hiding, so yeah you popping out of nowhere to victory lap after a 10 pt debut is weird.
You must be some obsessed Tatum superfan because you feel the need to compare them in every post.
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JMAC3 wrote:bigboi wrote:JMAC3 wrote:
Lmao figured you would show up again at the first sight of a mediocre game.
“Mediocre”. Just call it what it actually is. A bad game. And I would’ve shown up preseason if that were the casedon’t ever compare this dude to Tatum ever again in your life
You disappeared for like 8 months after you said Flagg was horrible, couldn't dribble, shoot and had a worse offensive game than Ben Simmons. Why? Because Flagg started dominating and you went into hiding, so yeah you popping out of nowhere to victory lap after a 10 pt debut is weird.
You must be some obsessed Tatum superfan because you feel the need to compare them in every post.
Disappeared? Buddy you can view my posts. I kept my posts consistent. You must be talking about someone else and yes, Flagg is worse than Ben Simmons. I almost guarantee will not have a better rookie season than rookie Simmons. And actually it wasn’t me comparing Flagg to Tatum, it was people like you who don’t watch a lick of basketball. We really had people saying Flagg would be Tatum 2.0 like Tatum hasn’t been a 30 ppg scorer, multiple times in finals, and multiple first teams. Delusional is real.I said Flagg was more comparable to RJ Barrett than Zion and wasn’t some next level prospect and I still stand by that. Your tears are spectacular
tlee324 wrote:
Lebron made it to the finals with that cleveland team.
Bird would have won 4 rings with that team, in this weak ass era of basketball.
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I like Flagg but as a Wizards fan it was fun watching Kyshawn take his lunch money in the Mavs home opener.
"bulky agile perimeter bone crunch pick setting draymond green" WizD
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bigboi wrote:JMAC3 wrote:bigboi wrote:
“Mediocre”. Just call it what it actually is. A bad game. And I would’ve shown up preseason if that were the casedon’t ever compare this dude to Tatum ever again in your life
You disappeared for like 8 months after you said Flagg was horrible, couldn't dribble, shoot and had a worse offensive game than Ben Simmons. Why? Because Flagg started dominating and you went into hiding, so yeah you popping out of nowhere to victory lap after a 10 pt debut is weird.
You must be some obsessed Tatum superfan because you feel the need to compare them in every post.
Disappeared? Buddy you can view my posts. I kept my posts consistent. You must be talking about someone else and yes, Flagg is worse than Ben Simmons. I almost guarantee will not have a better rookie season than rookie Simmons. And actually it wasn’t me comparing Flagg to Tatum, it was people like you who don’t watch a lick of basketball. We really had people saying Flagg would be Tatum 2.0 like Tatum hasn’t been a 30 ppg scorer, multiple times in finals, and multiple first teams. Delusional is real.I said Flagg was more comparable to RJ Barrett than Zion and wasn’t some next level prospect and I still stand by that. Your tears are spectacular
Ben Simmons rookie year was age 21...3 years older than Flagg. He should technically be a NCAA freshman this year. Flagg could have the worst NBA season of all time this year and I doubt anyone would care because he's so young
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azcatz11 wrote:bigboi wrote:JMAC3 wrote:
You disappeared for like 8 months after you said Flagg was horrible, couldn't dribble, shoot and had a worse offensive game than Ben Simmons. Why? Because Flagg started dominating and you went into hiding, so yeah you popping out of nowhere to victory lap after a 10 pt debut is weird.
You must be some obsessed Tatum superfan because you feel the need to compare them in every post.
Disappeared? Buddy you can view my posts. I kept my posts consistent. You must be talking about someone else and yes, Flagg is worse than Ben Simmons. I almost guarantee will not have a better rookie season than rookie Simmons. And actually it wasn’t me comparing Flagg to Tatum, it was people like you who don’t watch a lick of basketball. We really had people saying Flagg would be Tatum 2.0 like Tatum hasn’t been a 30 ppg scorer, multiple times in finals, and multiple first teams. Delusional is real.I said Flagg was more comparable to RJ Barrett than Zion and wasn’t some next level prospect and I still stand by that. Your tears are spectacular
Ben Simmons rookie year was age 21...3 years older than Flagg. He should technically be a NCAA freshman this year. Flagg could have the worst NBA season of all time this year and I doubt anyone would care because he's so young
Speak for yourself buddy. Darko was 18 years old when drafted and still became a bust. None of that stuff matters. I’m not even saying Flagg will be a bust either but I don’t think he’ll be the first or second scoring option on a championship team nor will he be as good as many of the players that people were forcing comparisons for
tlee324 wrote:
Lebron made it to the finals with that cleveland team.
Bird would have won 4 rings with that team, in this weak ass era of basketball.





