Alex Sarr

[coutournant]

Giannis was not stronger than Sarr at 19 years old, and Sarr is very explosive according to your criteria as he is an elite shotblocker with a 37 inch vert
That being said I agree with you, D12 is not great a comparison

[HadAnEffectHere]

Giannis was not stronger than Sarr at 19 years old, and Sarr is very explosive according to your criteria as he is an elite shotblocker with a 37 inch vert
That being said I agree with you, D12 is not great a comparison

Giannis was badly malnourished at 19 years old and came from poverty and hadn't played basketball much at all. Sarr is the son of a professional basketball player, the brother of a fringe NBA player, and has been training for the NBA since 4 years old.

[coutournant]

Giannis was living in Greece not in Somalia, you are really crazy man ! malnourished Greece is well known as a place where people eat the best food in the world, far better than in the US.
His family was so malnourished that they had many children, all tall and strong without training in the NBA. Worst argument ever

[HadAnEffectHere]

Giannis was living in Greece not in Somalia, you are really crazy man ! malnourished Greece is well known as a place where people eat the best food in the world, far better than in the US.
His family was so malnourished that they had many children, all tall and strong without training in the NBA. Worst argument ever

??????

https://fadeawayworld.net/giannis-antetokounmpo-was-so-poor-that-he-would-have-just-one-meal-a-day-at-11-pm-after-basketball-practice-and-once-he-made-it-to-the-nba-he-only-ate-1-4-of-the-food-because-of-how-he-was-raised

You can be poor in Greece, spoilers.

[coutournant]

The level of stunting in Greece is among the lowest in the world.
Giannis was poor, like many NBA prospect before entering the draft.
We can compare Sarr to Gobert who was far thiner than Sarr at the same age and is really strong now.
At 19 years old a player is far from being at his prime physically, especially long guys like him, there's a ton of example in the NBA

[atlantabbq99]

The comparisons to Giannis and Dwight are just so weird. Those guys are generationally strong and explosive and so-so at lateral movement and Sarr has high level lateral movement and below average strength and explosion.

Another classic realgm comment

Giannis and Dwight were not "generationally strong" at age 19

[HadAnEffectHere]

The comparisons to Giannis and Dwight are just so weird. Those guys are generationally strong and explosive and so-so at lateral movement and Sarr has high level lateral movement and below average strength and explosion.

Another classic realgm comment

Giannis and Dwight were not "generationally strong" at age 19

Dwight weighed 16 pounds more than Sarr while being 3 inches shorter and 6 months younger at the combine.

[atlantabbq99]

Giannis was not stronger than Sarr at 19 years old, and Sarr is very explosive according to your criteria as he is an elite shotblocker with a 37 inch vert
That being said I agree with you, D12 is not great a comparison

By HadAnEffectHere's logic, who you are at age 19 is who you will always be

I can't even think of one NBA player who was not able to put on weight after turning pro. Even Chet and Wemby are starting to get bigger and stronger.

[baldur]

Giannis was living in Greece not in Somalia, you are really crazy man ! malnourished Greece is well known as a place where people eat the best food in the world, far better than in the US.
His family was so malnourished that they had many children, all tall and strong without training in the NBA. Worst argument ever

Greece? Whose ass got saved by Germany and will never be able to repay their debts to Germany and EU. Greece is low key Argentina my man, with constant, continuous, never ending economical crisis.

[coutournant]

That's true but they eat well, by far better than in the US and most countries in the world. That's a fact
And their life expectancy is 3 years older than in the US
Money is not everything, you can eat well in a poor country, and eat very bad in a rich country like the US where junkfood is everywhere

[vincecarter4pres]

lol yea, and I remember people making a big deal when he said his favorite sport was football not basketball

Everybody said 2020 was a weak draft and Edwards was a horrible #1 pick and wouldn't even be a lottery pick if he was in the 2019 draft, behind Barrett, Culver, and Hunter

Now the same idiots are saying the same thing, that 2024 is a weak draft, and Sarr and Risacher wouldn't be lottery picks in the 2025 draft.

2020 was generally seen as a big 3 (Antman, Wiseman, LaMelo) and then a lot of variance...but yea, there is a lot of revisionism around Antman, a lot of people had issues with his mentality and inefficiency coming out

Yup. Iirc, I was one of them.

I just hated his mentality and bbiq. He seemed entirely disinterested in basketball, almost like he hated that he was good at it, because he didn’t like the game much and loved football.

Figured he was too good naturally to be useless, but thought he would basically be JR Smith. Again, just going memory.

But many felt much stronger than that take and thought he’d be a complete and total bust, like Dion Waiters at best, hell I might have been one of them.

[vincecarter4pres]

That's true but they eat well, by far better than in the US and most countries in the world. That's a fact
And their life expectancy is 3 years older than in the US
Money is not everything, you can eat well in a poor country, and eat very bad in a rich country like the US where junkfood is everywhere

Insert Jordan, stop you need some help.gif.

[atlantabbq99]

Everybody said 2020 was a weak draft and Edwards was a horrible #1 pick and wouldn't even be a lottery pick if he was in the 2019 draft, behind Barrett, Culver, and Hunter

Now the same idiots are saying the same thing, that 2024 is a weak draft, and Sarr and Risacher wouldn't be lottery picks in the 2025 draft.

2020 was generally seen as a big 3 (Antman, Wiseman, LaMelo) and then a lot of variance...but yea, there is a lot of revisionism around Antman, a lot of people had issues with his mentality and inefficiency coming out

Yup. Iirc, I was one of them.

I just hated his mentality and bbiq. He seemed entirely disinterested in basketball, almost like he hated that he was good at it, because he didn’t like the game much and loved football.

Figured he was too good naturally to be useless, but thought he would basically be JR Smith. Again, just going memory.

But many felt much stronger than that take and thought he’d be a complete and total bust, like Dion Waiters at best, hell I might have been one of them.

Respect

I appreciate the honesty

I just hate how all the realgm trolls think they are basketball experts and trash 19yr olds ballers with insane moronic logic and then 3yrs later pretend like it never happened.

[One_and_Done]

Giannis was living in Greece not in Somalia, you are really crazy man ! malnourished Greece is well known as a place where people eat the best food in the world, far better than in the US.
His family was so malnourished that they had many children, all tall and strong without training in the NBA. Worst argument ever

??????

https://fadeawayworld.net/giannis-antetokounmpo-was-so-poor-that-he-would-have-just-one-meal-a-day-at-11-pm-after-basketball-practice-and-once-he-made-it-to-the-nba-he-only-ate-1-4-of-the-food-because-of-how-he-was-raised

You can be poor in Greece, spoilers.

Giannis is like Barkley or Magic in the sense that they should NEVER be the comp for a prospect. Those guys are so unique that a prospect has almost no chance of turning out that way. Players like that are anomalies.

[NDaATL]

Giannis was not stronger than Sarr at 19 years old, and Sarr is very explosive according to your criteria as he is an elite shotblocker with a 37 inch vert
That being said I agree with you, D12 is not great a comparison

By HadAnEffectHere's logic, who you are at age 19 is who you will always be

I can't even think of one NBA player who was not able to put on weight after turning pro. Even Chet and Wemby are starting to get bigger and stronger.

Sarr has already put on 8 lbs in less than a year since joining Perth. He was listed at 216 at Perth last year and he was 224 at the combine last month. The dude will be 240+ in 2 years. This guy is a freak.

[nybluemeadow]

Giannis was not stronger than Sarr at 19 years old, and Sarr is very explosive according to your criteria as he is an elite shotblocker with a 37 inch vert
That being said I agree with you, D12 is not great a comparison

By HadAnEffectHere's logic, who you are at age 19 is who you will always be

I can't even think of one NBA player who was not able to put on weight after turning pro. Even Chet and Wemby are starting to get bigger and stronger.

Weight and muscle will never be an issue for an NBA prospect. Adding muscle is one of the easiest things to do for a pro athlete. Pro athletes have more problems with overweight issues than under weight issues once they are 3-4 years in the league.

[vincecarter4pres]

Edwards, Wiseman, and LaMelo were high upside, extremely high risk prospects.

Risacher just has no upside at all is the issue and Sarr has very little upside.

How a 19-year-old player can have no upside at all ? Both are amongst the youngest players in this draft ! You are talking about players who are still growing in their bodies. It's obvious they will improve physically and technically, like every basketball player at that age.
Everything you say is nonsense on every topic that's crazy

I am curious, according to you which players has more upside than Risacher and Sarr in this draft ?

Reed Sheppard, Jared McCain, Nikola Topic, Yves Missi, and Cody Williams are the only guys with semi-realistic star potential (though none are likely to get there).

The draft just has very few players with high end skill or tools.

So what do you see in Cody Williams and Jared McCain specifically that make you think they’re part of this short list?

[HadAnEffectHere]

How a 19-year-old player can have no upside at all ? Both are amongst the youngest players in this draft ! You are talking about players who are still growing in their bodies. It's obvious they will improve physically and technically, like every basketball player at that age.
Everything you say is nonsense on every topic that's crazy

I am curious, according to you which players has more upside than Risacher and Sarr in this draft ?

Reed Sheppard, Jared McCain, Nikola Topic, Yves Missi, and Cody Williams are the only guys with semi-realistic star potential (though none are likely to get there).

The draft just has very few players with high end skill or tools.

So what do you see in Cody Williams and Jared McCain specifically that make you think they’re part of this short list?

Cody Williams is just so comically underweight that I feel like there's some chance for a Gobert-like physical transformation after entering the NBA. Gobert was really unathletic and 25 pounds underweight in France and experienced huge athletic gains after putting on the weight needed. Cody Williams is roughly 40-50 pounds underweight (he weighs 47 pounds less than his brother with a similar height and wingspan) which is...... very alarming, but does give him some athletic upside.

Jared McCain is just so smart, great at shooting, and high character that I'm hoping he has a lot more on-ball juice than he showed at Duke and he just was forced to defer to the vets at Duke.

I don't think either of these outcomes are likely at all, but they seem possible.

[King Ken]

Reed Sheppard, Jared McCain, Nikola Topic, Yves Missi, and Cody Williams are the only guys with semi-realistic star potential (though none are likely to get there).

The draft just has very few players with high end skill or tools.

So what do you see in Cody Williams and Jared McCain specifically that make you think they’re part of this short list?

Cody Williams is just so comically underweight that I feel like there's some chance for a Gobert-like physical transformation after entering the NBA. Gobert was really unathletic and 25 pounds underweight in France and experienced huge athletic gains after putting on the weight needed. Cody Williams is roughly 40-50 pounds underweight (he weighs 47 pounds less than his brother with a similar height and wingspan) which is...... very alarming, but does give him some athletic upside.

Jared McCain is just so smart, great at shooting, and high character that I'm hoping he has a lot more on-ball juice than he showed at Duke and he just was forced to defer to the vets at Duke.

I don't think either of these outcomes are likely at all, but they seem possible.

Cody is insanely skinny but these pics give me hope

His shoulders have solid broadness to it. It's clear his body isn't close to mature. There is a legit chance once his body matures, you are looking at a quality player.

https://images.app.goo.gl/W7rkUeE6eeYPgjvb7

[God Squad]

It's kinda funny seeing Hawks fans try and convince people that Sarr is the obvious #1 pick and he's the second coming of Jaren Jackson jr, Giannis and Dwight Howard.