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Re: Zach Edey, 7-4 

Post#1521 » by Colbinii » Thu Jul 11, 2024 5:41 pm

clyde21 wrote:i cannot speak for Memphis mins distribution but it would be professional malpractice if GG got less than 20 mins a night with his current trajectory


I had him at 18 MPG. I think you are a lot higher on GG than I am in terms of fitting into a contender.

But, you could easily just give Vince Williams less minutes, Bane more minutes at the 2G and then more minutes for GG at the 3/4.
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Re: Zach Edey, 7-4 

Post#1522 » by clyde21 » Thu Jul 11, 2024 5:49 pm

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clyde21 wrote:i cannot speak for Memphis mins distribution but it would be professional malpractice if GG got less than 20 mins a night with his current trajectory


I had him at 18 MPG. I think you are a lot higher on GG than I am in terms of fitting into a contender.

But, you could easily just give Vince Williams less minutes, Bane more minutes at the 2G and then more minutes for GG at the 3/4.


it's not about who's higher on GG, but you had the youngest rookie in the league last year have a pretty nice first season, you need to build on that on see what you have, cutting his mins that much in his second year could ruin his development

if they are trying to be a contender and don't have the capacity to develop GG or give him enough mins to develop then they should just consolidate and trade him away to someone that will.
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Re: Zach Edey, 7-4 

Post#1523 » by Colbinii » Thu Jul 11, 2024 5:52 pm

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clyde21 wrote:i cannot speak for Memphis mins distribution but it would be professional malpractice if GG got less than 20 mins a night with his current trajectory


I had him at 18 MPG. I think you are a lot higher on GG than I am in terms of fitting into a contender.

But, you could easily just give Vince Williams less minutes, Bane more minutes at the 2G and then more minutes for GG at the 3/4.


it's not about who's higher on GG, but you had the youngest rookie in the league last year have a pretty nice first season, you need to build on that on see what you have, cutting his mins that much in his second year could ruin his development


Okay, so you are a contender, and you are trying to win as many games as possible. What exactly do you envision the role for GG?

if they are trying to be a contender and don't have the capacity to develop GG or give him enough mins to develop then they should just consolidate and trade him away to someone that will.


You don't think GG can develop in 18-24 MPG?
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Re: Zach Edey, 7-4 

Post#1524 » by clyde21 » Thu Jul 11, 2024 7:15 pm

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I had him at 18 MPG. I think you are a lot higher on GG than I am in terms of fitting into a contender.

But, you could easily just give Vince Williams less minutes, Bane more minutes at the 2G and then more minutes for GG at the 3/4.


it's not about who's higher on GG, but you had the youngest rookie in the league last year have a pretty nice first season, you need to build on that on see what you have, cutting his mins that much in his second year could ruin his development


Okay, so you are a contender, and you are trying to win as many games as possible. What exactly do you envision the role for GG?

if they are trying to be a contender and don't have the capacity to develop GG or give him enough mins to develop then they should just consolidate and trade him away to someone that will.


You don't think GG can develop in 18-24 MPG?


i said he should be at 20mpg at a minimum, but they can't find that for him on this roster then yea, they should probably trade him
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Re: Zach Edey, 7-4 

Post#1525 » by peZt » Fri Jul 12, 2024 7:12 am

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peZt wrote:You know people are getting desperate when they post a 3 second Twitter video of a missed dunk, when he had a great game otherwise.

Edey is gonna expose a lot of wannabe scouts and experts in here


His team lost the game, a good chance if he makes that putback dunk under 10 seconds they win. I guess that is not worth mentioning?


Unless Edey is known for missing dunks and its a big weakness of him its not worth mentioning as a "flaw" in his game. Then it's just reaching for straws. Or do you mention every single mistake by every player that might have cost their team the game? Do people post a turnover by a guard saying "Look at this, he missed a pass, I told he you sucked"?
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Re: Zach Edey, 7-4 

Post#1526 » by lastb1ckman » Fri Jul 12, 2024 1:10 pm

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peZt wrote:You know people are getting desperate when they post a 3 second Twitter video of a missed dunk, when he had a great game otherwise.

Edey is gonna expose a lot of wannabe scouts and experts in here


His team lost the game, a good chance if he makes that putback dunk under 10 seconds they win. I guess that is not worth mentioning?


Unless Edey is known for missing dunks and its a big weakness of him its not worth mentioning as a "flaw" in his game. Then it's just reaching for straws. Or do you mention every single mistake by every player that might have cost their team the game? Do people post a turnover by a guard saying "Look at this, he missed a pass, I told he you sucked"?


Yeah missing dunks happens, it shouldn't overshadow his good game overall, and how he sent them to overtime. That's just looking to be negative.
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Re: Zach Edey, 7-4 

Post#1527 » by JMAC3 » Fri Jul 12, 2024 1:21 pm

peZt wrote:
JMAC3 wrote:
peZt wrote:You know people are getting desperate when they post a 3 second Twitter video of a missed dunk, when he had a great game otherwise.

Edey is gonna expose a lot of wannabe scouts and experts in here


His team lost the game, a good chance if he makes that putback dunk under 10 seconds they win. I guess that is not worth mentioning?


Unless Edey is known for missing dunks and its a big weakness of him its not worth mentioning as a "flaw" in his game. Then it's just reaching for straws. Or do you mention every single mistake by every player that might have cost their team the game? Do people post a turnover by a guard saying "Look at this, he missed a pass, I told he you sucked"?


I never said he sucked lol, but yeah it was a pretty awful play that should have cost his team the win. I would say the same thing if a player missed a wideopen breakaway layup to the lose the game with 5 seconds left too.
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Re: Zach Edey, 7-4 

Post#1528 » by GoBobs » Fri Jul 12, 2024 1:43 pm

JMAC3 wrote:
peZt wrote:
JMAC3 wrote:
His team lost the game, a good chance if he makes that putback dunk under 10 seconds they win. I guess that is not worth mentioning?


Unless Edey is known for missing dunks and its a big weakness of him its not worth mentioning as a "flaw" in his game. Then it's just reaching for straws. Or do you mention every single mistake by every player that might have cost their team the game? Do people post a turnover by a guard saying "Look at this, he missed a pass, I told he you sucked"?


I never said he sucked lol, but yeah it was a pretty awful play that should have cost his team the win. I would say the same thing if a player missed a wideopen breakaway layup to the lose the game with 5 seconds left too.


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JMAC3 wrote:I think he will go around pick 50 in the draft. We have seen being tall doesn't transfer to being good in the NBA. Boban, Tacko, Thabet.

Someone will take a chance on him, but the expectations should be very low.


You have said a bunch of stuff in here that turned out to be totally wrong. Now you are grasping at straws.
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Re: Zach Edey, 7-4 

Post#1529 » by JMAC3 » Fri Jul 12, 2024 2:00 pm

GoBobs wrote:
JMAC3 wrote:
peZt wrote:
Unless Edey is known for missing dunks and its a big weakness of him its not worth mentioning as a "flaw" in his game. Then it's just reaching for straws. Or do you mention every single mistake by every player that might have cost their team the game? Do people post a turnover by a guard saying "Look at this, he missed a pass, I told he you sucked"?


I never said he sucked lol, but yeah it was a pretty awful play that should have cost his team the win. I would say the same thing if a player missed a wideopen breakaway layup to the lose the game with 5 seconds left too.


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JMAC3 wrote:I think he will go around pick 50 in the draft. We have seen being tall doesn't transfer to being good in the NBA. Boban, Tacko, Thabet.

Someone will take a chance on him, but the expectations should be very low.


You have said a bunch of stuff in here that turned out to be totally wrong. Now you are grasping at straws.


Turned out to be wrong? Bro it has been 1 summer league game. You also said he should go number 1, he is the next shaq and a bunch of other crazy things.

He didn't suck in that game. I haven't seen anywhere close to enough stuff to say anyone is right about anything.
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Re: Zach Edey, 7-4 

Post#1530 » by JRoy » Fri Jul 12, 2024 10:11 pm

This thread seems different for some reason.
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JRoy wrote:Monta Ellis have it all


I was hoping and expecting this to be one of the first replies. You did not disappoint. Jroy have it all.
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Re: Zach Edey, 7-4 

Post#1531 » by JMAC3 » Tue Jul 16, 2024 6:29 pm

Injury must be more serious than thought, dude is a ghost since game 1.
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Re: Zach Edey, 7-4 

Post#1532 » by BAMAFREAK » Tue Jul 16, 2024 8:16 pm

JMAC3 wrote:Injury must be more serious than thought, dude is a ghost since game 1.


I think it’s more likely he’s just a tad bit sore and they don’t want to push him, as they probably saw what they needed to see vs Kessler.
He’d be playing if it was January or February.
Also, I’m hoping they let him play next game.
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Re: Zach Edey, 7-4 

Post#1533 » by Big J » Wed Jul 17, 2024 12:07 am

Drew Timme just had 19, 5 & 4 in Summer League. Guys in here would be beating their chests if Edey did that. Summer league means nothing.
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Re: Zach Edey, 7-4 

Post#1534 » by Big J » Wed Jul 17, 2024 1:23 pm

Clingan looks so much better than Edey. Just a way more modern center. He leaves the scoring to the guards and plays solid D and is an excellent passer. You don’t need to feed him inefficient post touches. Even shot a couple of 3s last night. Makes Edey look like a cave man in comparison.
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Re: Zach Edey, 7-4 

Post#1535 » by lastb1ckman » Wed Jul 17, 2024 2:35 pm

Big J wrote:Drew Timme just had 19, 5 & 4 in Summer League. Guys in here would be beating their chests if Edey did that. Summer league means nothing.


Are you gonna keep beating that Timme/Edey drum forever? I mean from the 1 game we've seen from Edey you can already see the difference between those 2, besides what's obvious between them on paper. Besides, a 19,5, and 4 stat line from Edey would be pretty strange for a guy that rebounds as well as he does. (That kinda signals the clear difference the ways these guys play)
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Re: Zach Edey, 7-4 

Post#1536 » by lastb1ckman » Wed Jul 17, 2024 2:47 pm

Big J wrote:Clingan looks so much better than Edey. Just a way more modern center. He leaves the scoring to the guards and plays solid D and is an excellent passer. You don’t need to feed him inefficient post touches. Even shot a couple of 3s last night. Makes Edey look like a cave man in comparison.


Clingan looks super good defensively, but you don't have to wear your agenda on your sleeve so much. "leaves the scoring to the guards" ie, he cant score. He's been very inefficient this whole week so far.

They both have looked good in what we have seen so far in summer league. Hopefully Edey gets to play more before it ends.
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Re: Zach Edey, 7-4 

Post#1537 » by Big J » Wed Jul 17, 2024 2:54 pm

lastb1ckman wrote:
Big J wrote:Clingan looks so much better than Edey. Just a way more modern center. He leaves the scoring to the guards and plays solid D and is an excellent passer. You don’t need to feed him inefficient post touches. Even shot a couple of 3s last night. Makes Edey look like a cave man in comparison.


Clingan looks super good defensively, but you don't have to wear your agenda on your sleeve so much. "leaves the scoring to the guards" ie, he cant score. He's been very inefficient this whole week so far.

They both have looked good in what we have seen so far in summer league. Hopefully Edey gets to play more before it ends.


Teams don’t want their bigs scoring in this league unless they are Jokic or Embiid. It is actually a detriment to the teams offense to have to feed a post player who only takes 2s.
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Re: Zach Edey, 7-4 

Post#1538 » by SeattleJazzFan » Wed Jul 17, 2024 2:59 pm

Big J wrote:Clingan looks so much better than Edey. Just a way more modern center. He leaves the scoring to the guards and plays solid D and is an excellent passer. You don’t need to feed him inefficient post touches. Even shot a couple of 3s last night. Makes Edey look like a cave man in comparison.


clingan has been an absolute mess offensively. edey in his one game was dominant on offense. he was also, elite defensively.
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Re: Zach Edey, 7-4 

Post#1539 » by Colbinii » Wed Jul 17, 2024 3:03 pm

Big J wrote:
lastb1ckman wrote:
Big J wrote:Clingan looks so much better than Edey. Just a way more modern center. He leaves the scoring to the guards and plays solid D and is an excellent passer. You don’t need to feed him inefficient post touches. Even shot a couple of 3s last night. Makes Edey look like a cave man in comparison.


Clingan looks super good defensively, but you don't have to wear your agenda on your sleeve so much. "leaves the scoring to the guards" ie, he cant score. He's been very inefficient this whole week so far.

They both have looked good in what we have seen so far in summer league. Hopefully Edey gets to play more before it ends.


Teams don’t want their bigs scoring in this league unless they are Jokic or Embiid. It is actually a detriment to the teams offense to have to feed a post player who only takes 2s.


Yes and No.

If you just give the ball to Al Jefferson 20+ times per game in the post? Bad Offense.

If you are spamming P&R with Ja Morant or Desmond Bane as the ball-handler and Edey is crushing opponents with screens and forcing switches because he is so big and then posting up a smaller wing or guard? That's very efficient offense.

So yeah, if anyone thinks Memphis is running their offense around Edey a-la Al Jefferson--that isn't happening and would be bad offense.

If Edey is simply "a weapon" to be utilized when the mismatches occur naturally within the offensive flow and within offensive sets and play design--that would be good offense.
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Re: Zach Edey, 7-4 

Post#1540 » by Colbinii » Wed Jul 17, 2024 3:04 pm

Big J wrote:Clingan looks so much better than Edey. Just a way more modern center. He leaves the scoring to the guards and plays solid D and is an excellent passer. You don’t need to feed him inefficient post touches. Even shot a couple of 3s last night. Makes Edey look like a cave man in comparison.


He missed rim by about 4 feet on one of his 3P attempts.

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