RJ Barrett

big-shot-ROB · Post #341 » by **big-shot-ROB** » Mon Dec 3, 2018 10:31 pm

I still don't understand the DD comparison. I never saw DeRozan play in college, but I just don't see the similarities between their games.

VanWest82 · Post #342 » by **VanWest82** » Tue Dec 4, 2018 7:48 pm

Iggy Brazdeikis might be the better Canadian ncaa freshman right now. He's certainly more efficient. Barrett is a better play maker (when he wants to be).

Post #343 » by **Marcus** » Tue Dec 4, 2018 8:25 pm

big-shot-ROB wrote:I still don't understand the DD comparison. I never saw DeRozan play in college, but I just don't see the similarities between their games.

I always took it as a score 1st, 2nd, and 3rd, and "I can always get a look no matter what" mentality they both can play with at times. It's not necessarily winning basketball despite the numbers.

I'm sure Clyde can correct me if i'm wrong though.

GameBredAPBT · Post #344 » by **GameBredAPBT** » Tue Dec 4, 2018 11:09 pm

His comparison has always been Kobe. Never DeRozan

NBA Fan 1234 · Post #345 » by **NBA Fan 1234** » Tue Dec 4, 2018 11:18 pm

GameBredAPBT wrote:His comparison has always been Kobe. Never DeRozan

Kobe without the athleticism or skill, sure.

GameBredAPBT · Post #346 » by **GameBredAPBT** » Tue Dec 4, 2018 11:22 pm

Knickstape1214 wrote:
GameBredAPBT wrote:His comparison has always been Kobe. Never DeRozan

Kobe without the athleticism or skill, sure.

Extremely similar athletically. Less finesse based, more power/brute strength.

Much more talented & skilled than Kobe was at his age.

clyde21 · Post #347 » by **clyde21** » Tue Dec 4, 2018 11:33 pm

Marcus wrote:
big-shot-ROB wrote:I still don't understand the DD comparison. I never saw DeRozan play in college, but I just don't see the similarities between their games.

I always took it as a score 1st, 2nd, and 3rd, and "I can always get a look no matter what" mentality they both can play with at times. It's not necessarily winning basketball despite the numbers.

I'm sure Clyde can correct me if i'm wrong though.

clyde21 · Post #348 » by **clyde21** » Tue Dec 4, 2018 11:33 pm

VanWest82 wrote:Iggy Brazdeikis might be the better Canadian ncaa freshman right now. He's certainly more efficient. Barrett is a better play maker (when he wants to be).

Iggy Braz is having a nice season so far. Not sure how he translates though. Seems too unathletic to me.

nolang1 · Post #349 » by **nolang1** » Tue Dec 4, 2018 11:47 pm

GameBredAPBT wrote:
Knickstape1214 wrote:
GameBredAPBT wrote:His comparison has always been Kobe. Never DeRozan

Kobe without the athleticism or skill, sure.

Extremely similar athletically. Less finesse based, more power/brute strength.

Much more talented & skilled than Kobe was at his age.

Yeah it took a few years for Kobe to become a decent three-point shooter. He was much more known for his slashing/athleticism (e.g. winning the dunk contest) at first.

NBA Fan 1234 · Post #350 » by **NBA Fan 1234** » Wed Dec 5, 2018 12:02 am

GameBredAPBT wrote:
Knickstape1214 wrote:
GameBredAPBT wrote:His comparison has always been Kobe. Never DeRozan

Kobe without the athleticism or skill, sure.

Extremely similar athletically. Less finesse based, more power/brute strength.

Much more talented & skilled than Kobe was at his age.

Completely disagree with everything you said besides being less finesse based. Kobe was much more athletic with his wiggle and finishing in traffic. RJ’s main skill is bullying players, and being a reluctant passer. That’s it.

This RJ:Kobe comparison is crap.

Funcrusher · Post #351 » by **Funcrusher** » Wed Dec 5, 2018 12:17 am

GameBredAPBT wrote:
Knickstape1214 wrote:
GameBredAPBT wrote:His comparison has always been Kobe. Never DeRozan

Kobe without the athleticism or skill, sure.

Extremely similar athletically. Less finesse based, more power/brute strength.

Much more talented & skilled than Kobe was at his age.

None of this is true. RJ is closer to Wiggins than he is to Kobe.

HeadtopChunes · Post #352 » by **HeadtopChunes** » Wed Dec 5, 2018 9:23 pm

Whats the consensus on RJ as a defende so far?

clyde21 · Post #353 » by **clyde21** » Wed Dec 5, 2018 9:50 pm

Funcrusher wrote:
GameBredAPBT wrote:
Knickstape1214 wrote:
Kobe without the athleticism or skill, sure.

Extremely similar athletically. Less finesse based, more power/brute strength.

Much more talented & skilled than Kobe was at his age.

None of this is true. RJ is closer to Wiggins than he is to Kobe.

He's much, much, much more aggressive than Wiggins. Obviously doesn't have Wiggins' athleticism.

Funcrusher · Post #354 » by **Funcrusher** » Wed Dec 5, 2018 11:03 pm

clyde21 wrote:
Funcrusher wrote:
GameBredAPBT wrote:Extremely similar athletically. Less finesse based, more power/brute strength.

Much more talented & skilled than Kobe was at his age.

None of this is true. RJ is closer to Wiggins than he is to Kobe.

He's much, much, much more aggressive than Wiggins. Obviously doesn't have Wiggins' athleticism.

Was gonna expand on my original post before but scrapped it. But yeah, I would say that I think RJ's best comp is a less athletic, higher motor Wiggins. Good athlete in open space, but not really functional in the half court. Average at best handles, relies on length/strength to get in the paint. Can't really shoot, yet has terrible shot selection. Is generally a defensive liability(though Barrett can change this narrative). The one area RJ stands apart from Wiggins is as a passer, but his selfishness sort of negates that as an attribute. I am not forecasting RJ as a bust, but I don't see a very high ceiling for him either and there are a lot of red flags.

Funcrusher · Post #355 » by **Funcrusher** » Wed Dec 5, 2018 11:22 pm

HeadtopChunes wrote:Whats the consensus on RJ as a defende so far?

Not good?

clyde21 · Post #356 » by **clyde21** » Wed Dec 5, 2018 11:37 pm

Funcrusher wrote:
clyde21 wrote:
Funcrusher wrote:None of this is true. RJ is closer to Wiggins than he is to Kobe.

He's much, much, much more aggressive than Wiggins. Obviously doesn't have Wiggins' athleticism.

Was gonna expand on my original post before but scrapped it. But yeah, I would say that I think RJ's best comp is a less athletic, higher motor Wiggins. Good athlete in open space, but not really functional in the half court. Average at best handles, relies on length/strength to get in the paint. Can't really shoot, yet has terrible shot selection. Is generally a defensive liability(though Barrett can change this narrative). The one area RJ stands apart from Wiggins is as a passer, but his selfishness sort of negates that as an attribute. I am not forecasting RJ as a bust, but I don't see a very high ceiling for him either and there are a lot of red flags.

I'm with you on RJ but I might not be as low. I thought for the longest time he was overrated but I think he actually has started to become underrated a bit in some capacities. Make no mistake about it, dude is going to be a very good scorer in the NBA. My biggest question marks with him have already been court vision and BBIQ and his tendencies to turn into a black hole on offense.

Right now I think I have him on the lower end of the top 10 but I think there's room to move up if he corrects some things.

RaptorsLife · Post #357 » by **RaptorsLife** » Thu Dec 6, 2018 2:02 am

Another fantastic game by RJ

27pts
15 Rebs
4 assists
12-16

Last 2 games. 22-28 from field. 54pts

RaptorsLife · Post #358 » by **RaptorsLife** » Thu Dec 6, 2018 2:43 am

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rapstarter · Post #359 » by **rapstarter** » Thu Dec 6, 2018 7:02 am

Funcrusher wrote:But yeah, I would say that I think RJ's best comp is a less athletic, higher motor Wiggins. Good athlete in open space, but not really functional in the half court. Average at best handles, relies on length/strength to get in the paint. Can't really shoot, yet has terrible shot selection. Is generally a defensive liability(though Barrett can change this narrative). The one area RJ stands apart from Wiggins is as a passer, but his selfishness sort of negates that as an attribute. I am not forecasting RJ as a bust, but I don't see a very high ceiling for him either and there are a lot of red flags.

So your best comparison is a player that you just created, cause based on what you said he's nothing like Wiggins. You are only comparing the two because they are two Canadian prospects with hype.

UcanUwill · Post #360 » by **UcanUwill** » Thu Dec 6, 2018 9:33 am

RaptorsLife wrote:Another fantastic game by RJ

27pts
15 Rebs
4 assists
12-16

Last 2 games. 22-28 from field. 54pts

Nice. I believe in this player.