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Post#41 » by big-shot-ROB » Mon Nov 12, 2018 7:44 pm

Are Thad Young or Paul Millsap bad comparisons for him?
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Post#42 » by No-Man » Mon Nov 12, 2018 8:03 pm

big-shot-ROB wrote:Are Thad Young or Paul Millsap bad comparisons for him?

he is nowhere near that type of all-around player

he is really a straight line driver, with some touch, explosiveness, but doesn't do much more, to me he is more Marquese Chriss than he is those guys
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Post#43 » by big-shot-ROB » Mon Nov 12, 2018 8:22 pm

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big-shot-ROB wrote:Are Thad Young or Paul Millsap bad comparisons for him?

he is nowhere near that type of all-around player

he is really a straight line driver, with some touch, explosiveness, but doesn't do much more, to me he is more Marquese Chriss than he is those guys


I've seen just 2 games of him (one at Gonzaga, one with Japan), but he looks he has more potential to develop his skills than Chris, who is just a brain-less athlete and a punk.
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Post#44 » by No-Man » Mon Nov 12, 2018 8:25 pm

Rui is pretty brain-less at least on the court, might be a harder worker, I have no insight there, but that's subjective
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Post#45 » by Hoopz Afrik » Wed Nov 21, 2018 2:40 pm

LeBron_da_Don wrote:I see a lot of Wilson Chandler in him


Time to upgrade this. A lot of potential with this guy. Still pretty green but so very effective. Has a lot of shooting potential as well. Has to be a top 10 prospect at absolute worst IMO.
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Post#46 » by JHTruth » Wed Nov 21, 2018 3:23 pm

Seems like a polarizing guy. Armchair draft nerds seem to either love him or hate him. I see a guy without the greatest feel but with definite impact out there. The guy scores like its breathing. IDK, can't seem him falling outside the top 10..
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Post#47 » by CptCrunch » Wed Nov 21, 2018 3:50 pm

The dude is black. If his name is Ray Hachman, he would be a top 10 pick guaranteed. Who cares if his name is Japanese.
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Post#48 » by Hoopz Afrik » Wed Nov 21, 2018 3:52 pm

paulbball wrote:The dude is black. If his name is Ray Hachman, he would be a top 10 pick guaranteed. Who cares if his name is Japanese.


Right. If he was American-born I feel like the narratives surrounding him would be much different.
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Post#49 » by AshyLarrysDiaper » Wed Nov 21, 2018 3:54 pm

LeBron_da_Don wrote:
paulbball wrote:The dude is black. If his name is Ray Hachman, he would be a top 10 pick guaranteed. Who cares if his name is Japanese.


Right. If he was American-born I feel like the narratives surrounding him would be much different.


If he were a black 21-year-old American, nobody would be calling him "young in the game" and padding his upside because of it. Being Japanese has only helped his draft stock.
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Post#50 » by No-Man » Wed Nov 21, 2018 3:59 pm

AshyLarrysDiaper wrote:
LeBron_da_Don wrote:
paulbball wrote:The dude is black. If his name is Ray Hachman, he would be a top 10 pick guaranteed. Who cares if his name is Japanese.


Right. If he was American-born I feel like the narratives surrounding him would be much different.


If he were a black 21-year-old American, nobody would be calling him "young in the game" and padding his upside because of it. Being Japanese has only helped his draft stock.

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Post#51 » by Hoopz Afrik » Wed Nov 21, 2018 4:37 pm

AshyLarrysDiaper wrote:
LeBron_da_Don wrote:
paulbball wrote:The dude is black. If his name is Ray Hachman, he would be a top 10 pick guaranteed. Who cares if his name is Japanese.


Right. If he was American-born I feel like the narratives surrounding him would be much different.


If he were a black 21-year-old American, nobody would be calling him "young in the game" and padding his upside because of it. Being Japanese has only helped his draft stock.


Fair. Maybe American-trained (ie Joel Embiid and Pascal Siakam) is more along the lines of what I was trying to get at. Had he moved to the states at 15 and played some high school ball here, I really think folks would view him a lot more favorably.
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Post#52 » by doordoor123 » Wed Nov 21, 2018 4:45 pm

This thread is out of control. Talk about basketball.
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Post#53 » by Hoopz Afrik » Wed Nov 21, 2018 10:55 pm

Very efficient and crafty on offense in this first half against Duke. Defense needs some work and doesn't really seem overly interested in rebounding just yet.
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Post#54 » by Chi town » Wed Nov 21, 2018 11:55 pm

I think he can play the 3. He would be a beast there. Much like Jimmy Butler at SG instead of SF.

I like his upside. I think he goes 8-12.
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Post#55 » by peZt » Thu Nov 22, 2018 12:30 am

Chi town wrote:I think he can play the 3. He would be a beast there. Much like Jimmy Butler at SG instead of SF.

I like his upside. I think he goes 8-12.


He doesn't have the quickness or ballhandling ability to play the 3 on offense and wouldn't be able to defend 3's on the perimeter either. He's fine at the 4, no need to change things up.
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Post#56 » by Coeur » Thu Nov 22, 2018 12:40 am

Yes his NBA position is a SF. He has improved so much. I liked his fit 10-14 just as an athlete. He has taken huge steps this season.
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Post#57 » by NBA Fan 1234 » Thu Nov 22, 2018 1:14 am

Coeur wrote:Yes his NBA position is a SF. He has improved so much. I liked his fit 10-14 just as an athlete. He has taken huge steps this season.


He's a 4 that will likely get minutes at the 5.

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Chi town wrote:I think he can play the 3. He would be a beast there. Much like Jimmy Butler at SG instead of SF.

I like his upside. I think he goes 8-12.


He doesn't have the quickness or ballhandling ability to play the 3 on offense and wouldn't be able to defend 3's on the perimeter either. He's fine at the 4, no need to change things up.


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Post#58 » by Coeur » Thu Nov 22, 2018 3:10 am

Knickstape1214 wrote:
Coeur wrote:Yes his NBA position is a SF. He has improved so much. I liked his fit 10-14 just as an athlete. He has taken huge steps this season.


He's a 4 that will likely get minutes at the 5.

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Chi town wrote:I think he can play the 3. He would be a beast there. Much like Jimmy Butler at SG instead of SF.

I like his upside. I think he goes 8-12.


He doesn't have the quickness or ballhandling ability to play the 3 on offense and wouldn't be able to defend 3's on the perimeter either. He's fine at the 4, no need to change things up.


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I THink you or anyone is way off when they project guys to small ball positions. He is a lottery pick because of his ability to play wings. Of course they could slide him to PF in a small ball lineup but that doesn't mean he is a PF.

NCAA positions are different. NBA wants a guy who can play both guards to play point. A forward that can play both forwards is still a sF


No doubt about the fact rui is looked at so highly because he is a 3 in the NBA. So what if he's a 4 at Gonzaga.
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Post#59 » by NBA Fan 1234 » Thu Nov 22, 2018 3:18 am

Coeur wrote:
Knickstape1214 wrote:
Coeur wrote:Yes his NBA position is a SF. He has improved so much. I liked his fit 10-14 just as an athlete. He has taken huge steps this season.


He's a 4 that will likely get minutes at the 5.

peZt wrote:
He doesn't have the quickness or ballhandling ability to play the 3 on offense and wouldn't be able to defend 3's on the perimeter either. He's fine at the 4, no need to change things up.


This. We see eye to eye on a few things, it seems. I like you.

I THink you or anyone is way off when they project guys to small ball positions. He is a lottery pick because of his ability to play wings. Of course they could slide him to PF in a small ball lineup but that doesn't mean he is a PF.

NCAA positions are different. NBA wants a guy who can play both guards to play point. A forward that can play both forwards is still a sF


No doubt about the fact rui is looked at so highly because he is a 3 in the NBA. So what if he's a 4 at Gonzaga.


But he's not a 3. He doesn't have the playmaking nor the lateral quickness on defense - he has heavy feet. I'd be willing to bet that no NBA scout thinks he's a 3...because, again, he's not one. I'm willing to put up my projections vs anyone else's given my history, and other NBA scouting things I don't need to go public with but Duke, among other mods and posters, can vouch for. *This is in addition to my actual work experience in professional basketball, by the way.*

I'm pretty sure you're the same person who kept saying that Jared Cunningham is good on the Knicks board...
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Post#60 » by eminence » Thu Nov 22, 2018 3:52 am

I don't like him much as a prospect, but he's 100% a 4.
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