People were interested in these podcasts

Cade Cunningham

Draft talk all year round

Moderators: Duke4life831, Marcus

MotownMadness
RealGM
Posts: 38,752
And1: 22,817
Joined: Oct 08, 2013
   

Re: Cade Cunningham 

Post#701 » by MotownMadness » Thu Nov 18, 2021 10:44 am

Read on Twitter
?s=20
User avatar
EvanZ
RealGM
Posts: 14,662
And1: 4,069
Joined: Apr 06, 2011

Re: Cade Cunningham 

Post#702 » by EvanZ » Thu Nov 18, 2021 5:09 pm

clyde21 wrote:
EvanZ wrote:
clyde21 wrote:
prepare for the L my dude


Pot meet kettle. :lol:


speaking of Ls i don't think anyone has taken as many as you


What L do I have that is worse than having LaMelo at 18?
Subscribe to my 100% FREE email newsletter summarizing top college performances:

https://toplines.mailchimpsites.com/
User avatar
clyde21
RealGM
Posts: 63,602
And1: 70,015
Joined: Aug 20, 2014
     

Re: Cade Cunningham 

Post#703 » by clyde21 » Thu Nov 18, 2021 5:11 pm

EvanZ wrote:
clyde21 wrote:
EvanZ wrote:
Pot meet kettle. :lol:


speaking of Ls i don't think anyone has taken as many as you


What L do I have that is worse than having LaMelo at 18?


you and Lamelo :lol:
جُنْد فِلَسْطِيْن
User avatar
EvanZ
RealGM
Posts: 14,662
And1: 4,069
Joined: Apr 06, 2011

Re: Cade Cunningham 

Post#704 » by EvanZ » Thu Nov 18, 2021 5:25 pm

clyde21 wrote:
EvanZ wrote:
clyde21 wrote:
speaking of Ls i don't think anyone has taken as many as you


What L do I have that is worse than having LaMelo at 18?


you and Lamelo :lol:


I mean bro. Come on. If you're sitting here telling us that you'd still take LaMelo at 18 1) everyone knows you're lying and 2) it's a sign of a bad analyst not being able to admit your mistakes.

You went out of your way to short LaMelo and he's obviously a generational prospect. You had him at EIGHTEEN bro. You should be disqualified from every doing a big board again tbh. It's like Yoda having Luka at 14 or whatever.
Subscribe to my 100% FREE email newsletter summarizing top college performances:

https://toplines.mailchimpsites.com/
User avatar
clyde21
RealGM
Posts: 63,602
And1: 70,015
Joined: Aug 20, 2014
     

Re: Cade Cunningham 

Post#705 » by clyde21 » Thu Nov 18, 2021 5:29 pm

EvanZ wrote:
clyde21 wrote:
EvanZ wrote:
What L do I have that is worse than having LaMelo at 18?


you and Lamelo :lol:


I mean bro. Come on. If you're sitting here telling us that you'd still take LaMelo at 18 1) everyone knows you're lying and 2) it's a sign of a bad analyst not being able to admit your mistakes.

You went out of your way to short LaMelo and he's obviously a generational prospect. You had him at EIGHTEEN bro. You should be disqualified from every doing a big board again tbh. It's like Yoda having Luka at 14 or whatever.


i don't like Melo, never liked Melo, will never like Melo, that's just me, deal with it, but I don't go to his thread and bring it up every time he has a bad game, didn't do it in his rookie year either, that's the difference.
جُنْد فِلَسْطِيْن
User avatar
God Squad
RealGM
Posts: 13,259
And1: 11,425
Joined: Feb 22, 2010
Location: Toronto
 

Re: Cade Cunningham 

Post#706 » by God Squad » Fri Nov 19, 2021 6:57 am

clyde21 wrote:
EvanZ wrote:
clyde21 wrote:
prepare for the L my dude


Pot meet kettle. :lol:


speaking of Ls i don't think anyone has taken as many as you

Well that escalated quickly.. and randomly might I add lol. Aren't you both Warrior fans?
Image
GreatWhiteStiff
RealGM
Posts: 15,250
And1: 12,676
Joined: Oct 17, 2011
Location: Overusing finna
 

Re: Cade Cunningham 

Post#707 » by GreatWhiteStiff » Sun Nov 21, 2021 4:34 pm

Clyde still has Melo behind Bol Bol on his prospect board.

I didn't even know clutch scoring was really a thing. I thought some freakonomics guy disproved it. J/K, but not entirely.
Image

Let's playin for 9th!

"OG puts the clamps on point guards like Trae Young." -DelAbbot
MotownMadness
RealGM
Posts: 38,752
And1: 22,817
Joined: Oct 08, 2013
   

Re: Cade Cunningham 

Post#708 » by MotownMadness » Sun Nov 21, 2021 7:20 pm

GreatWhiteStiff wrote:Clyde still has Melo behind Bol Bol on his prospect board.

I didn't even know clutch scoring was really a thing. I thought some freakonomics guy disproved it. J/K, but not entirely.


I would actually like to know how to track it, so if anyone finds a link to it let me know. Would be interesting to look at.

I think it's basically just how many points your responsible for in the final 2 mins through points, assists, etc..
Big J
RealGM
Posts: 11,625
And1: 8,749
Joined: May 26, 2020

Re: Cade Cunningham 

Post#709 » by Big J » Mon Nov 22, 2021 4:19 am

I’ll give the kid his props, he had a nice tripe double tonight. Even did it against Mr. Triple Double himself.
User avatar
clyde21
RealGM
Posts: 63,602
And1: 70,015
Joined: Aug 20, 2014
     

Re: Cade Cunningham 

Post#710 » by clyde21 » Tue Dec 7, 2021 2:58 am

Big J wrote:I’ll give the kid his props, he had a nice tripe double tonight. Even did it against Mr. Triple Double himself.


28/11/5
جُنْد فِلَسْطِيْن
User avatar
CptCrunch
Lead Assistant
Posts: 4,671
And1: 4,696
Joined: Jun 30, 2016
   

Re: Cade Cunningham 

Post#711 » by CptCrunch » Tue Dec 7, 2021 3:54 am

Cade is fine just as long as you put the blinders on and ignore his turnovers.

Over past 5 games

19.6 PPG on 46.9% FG, 45.9% 3 PT (a smidge too hot from 3?).
7.4 REB
3.8 AST
5.2 TOV

Shooting the ball well, which we know he can do. I'm here just to kill the pre-draft narrative that he is a point guard or point forward. Nice player, can score the ball, not a Luka, definitely not a #1 pick.

If you accept these criticisms, then we are on the same page. Nice #3-5 pick in a nice draft with potentially 1 superstar ceiling player (you know who).
MotownMadness
RealGM
Posts: 38,752
And1: 22,817
Joined: Oct 08, 2013
   

Re: Cade Cunningham 

Post#712 » by MotownMadness » Tue Dec 7, 2021 4:14 am

CptCrunch wrote:Cade is fine just as long as you put the blinders on and ignore his turnovers.

Over past 5 games

19.6 PPG on 46.9% FG, 45.9% 3 PT (a smidge too hot from 3?).
7.4 REB
3.8 AST
5.2 TOV

Shooting the ball well, which we know he can do. I'm here just to kill the pre-draft narrative that he is a point guard or point forward. Nice player, can score the ball, not a Luka, definitely not a #1 pick.

If you accept these criticisms, then we are on the same page. Nice #3-5 pick in a nice draft with potentially 1 superstar ceiling player (you know who).

He can run the offense fine. His TOs are alot of fumbles and just complete bone head tossing it to a standstill guy that he can clean up.

But he can definitely pass the ball and that was even evident in college. This isn't a finished product here or anything.
7r5ur
RealGM
Posts: 11,949
And1: 5,080
Joined: Feb 26, 2005

Re: Cade Cunningham 

Post#713 » by 7r5ur » Tue Dec 7, 2021 5:02 am

MotownMadness wrote:
CptCrunch wrote:Cade is fine just as long as you put the blinders on and ignore his turnovers.

Over past 5 games

19.6 PPG on 46.9% FG, 45.9% 3 PT (a smidge too hot from 3?).
7.4 REB
3.8 AST
5.2 TOV

Shooting the ball well, which we know he can do. I'm here just to kill the pre-draft narrative that he is a point guard or point forward. Nice player, can score the ball, not a Luka, definitely not a #1 pick.

If you accept these criticisms, then we are on the same page. Nice #3-5 pick in a nice draft with potentially 1 superstar ceiling player (you know who).

He can run the offense fine. His TOs are alot of fumbles and just complete bone head tossing it to a standstill guy that he can clean up.

But he can definitely pass the ball and that was even evident in college. This isn't a finished product here or anything.


Yeah, just look at his games with Killian out, where Cade had more PG responsibilities. He had a nice stretch of 6 games around that time where he averaged 7.2 AST and 3 TOV (though his own shooting took a dive). I think this range is attainable for him to average within a few years time, and would definitely put him into the "primary playmaking wing" category.

And I know people like downplaying this, but the fact that the Pistons are the worst team in the league at hitting open shots (last I checked) has an effect. Like it or not, this has to be considered when looking at any numbers.

Anyways, anyone claiming to come in and "kill a narrative" 18 games into a career that has already shown plenty of flashes to the contrary cannot be taken very seriously.
crows2
Senior
Posts: 738
And1: 610
Joined: Apr 01, 2015

Re: Cade Cunningham 

Post#714 » by crows2 » Tue Dec 7, 2021 5:51 am

CptCrunch wrote:Cade is fine just as long as you put the blinders on and ignore his turnovers.

Over past 5 games

19.6 PPG on 46.9% FG, 45.9% 3 PT (a smidge too hot from 3?).
7.4 REB
3.8 AST
5.2 TOV

Shooting the ball well, which we know he can do. I'm here just to kill the pre-draft narrative that he is a point guard or point forward. Nice player, can score the ball, not a Luka, definitely not a #1 pick.

If you accept these criticisms, then we are on the same page. Nice #3-5 pick in a nice draft with potentially 1 superstar ceiling player (you know who).


You do realise he’s 18 games into his rookie season right? Making any definitive statement at this stage is just stupid.
reanimator
Analyst
Posts: 3,387
And1: 1,448
Joined: Jan 31, 2014
     

Re: Cade Cunningham 

Post#715 » by reanimator » Tue Dec 7, 2021 1:06 pm

CptCrunch wrote:Cade is fine just as long as you put the blinders on and ignore his turnovers.

Over past 5 games

19.6 PPG on 46.9% FG, 45.9% 3 PT (a smidge too hot from 3?).
7.4 REB
3.8 AST
5.2 TOV

Shooting the ball well, which we know he can do. I'm here just to kill the pre-draft narrative that he is a point guard or point forward. Nice player, can score the ball, not a Luka, definitely not a #1 pick.

If you accept these criticisms, then we are on the same page. Nice #3-5 pick in a nice draft with potentially 1 superstar ceiling player (you know who).


Lol he is a rookie who is thrust into a high volume onball role with a mediocre co creator (Killian), no shooters, nor a viable PnR big.

From 11/15 to 11/26 (7 games), he had 49 assist to 22 turnovers. A shade over a 2:1 ratio. Not simply spamming 3s but also getting to the cup and showing an ability to finish. Also a plus defender. If I have any criticism, its his inability to draw fouls thus far.
User avatar
GSWFan1994
General Manager
Posts: 8,049
And1: 16,678
Joined: Oct 31, 2006
 

Re: Cade Cunningham 

Post#716 » by GSWFan1994 » Tue Dec 7, 2021 4:13 pm

Guy cherry picks a 5-game sample in a 18 game career... to prove a hypothesis that goes exactly opposite of what he was trying to say in the 1st place.

Ladies & gentlemen, we have a logical genius.
reanimator
Analyst
Posts: 3,387
And1: 1,448
Joined: Jan 31, 2014
     

Re: Cade Cunningham 

Post#717 » by reanimator » Wed Jan 26, 2022 2:33 am

Read on Twitter
GreatWhiteStiff
RealGM
Posts: 15,250
And1: 12,676
Joined: Oct 17, 2011
Location: Overusing finna
 

Re: Cade Cunningham 

Post#718 » by GreatWhiteStiff » Wed Jan 26, 2022 4:49 am

Zero free throws?

Great game though.
Image

Let's playin for 9th!

"OG puts the clamps on point guards like Trae Young." -DelAbbot
User avatar
clyde21
RealGM
Posts: 63,602
And1: 70,015
Joined: Aug 20, 2014
     

Re: Cade Cunningham 

Post#719 » by clyde21 » Wed Jan 26, 2022 5:48 am

what's wrong with this guy?
جُنْد فِلَسْطِيْن
SeattleJazzFan
Assistant Coach
Posts: 4,329
And1: 2,714
Joined: Jul 09, 2004
Location: Seattle, WA

Re: Cade Cunningham 

Post#720 » by SeattleJazzFan » Wed Jan 26, 2022 9:02 pm

CptCrunch wrote:Cade is fine just as long as you put the blinders on and ignore his turnovers.

Over past 5 games

19.6 PPG on 46.9% FG, 45.9% 3 PT (a smidge too hot from 3?).
7.4 REB
3.8 AST
5.2 TOV

Shooting the ball well, which we know he can do. I'm here just to kill the pre-draft narrative that he is a point guard or point forward. Nice player, can score the ball, not a Luka, definitely not a #1 pick.

If you accept these criticisms, then we are on the same page. Nice #3-5 pick in a nice draft with potentially 1 superstar ceiling player (you know who).


lol, you say these things as if he's a finished product. good stuff, brother.

Return to NBA Draft