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Re: Potential sleepers 

Post#841 » by retrobro90 » Thu May 11, 2017 6:31 am

getrichordie wrote:What is the take on Semi Ojeleye? Man people are sleeping on this guy, I feel. Great athlete. Good instincts. A bit of a tweener but it looks like he has a solid foundation to build on going into the NBA. I'm really falling in love with his tools and playmaking on both ends. I think if you put him with the right trainer, great things will happen.


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I was high on him for a while and I still think he can be a good player but it seems like his biggest knocks are his low IQ and stiff hips. He's great guarding the post at the college level because of his strong base but he can't open his hips in a defensive stance when guarding dribble penetrators. Lot of scouts wonder about his versatility for this reason and think he should primarily be a 4 but with his size and length he's not a perfect physical specimen for that position. His shot looks projectable but he never really stepped too far from the college 3 point line. Really low assist numbers too. Kind of a ball stopper. Also he looks like the teenage boy dinosaur from the show Dinosaurs.
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Re: Potential sleepers 

Post#842 » by Hoopz Afrik » Thu May 11, 2017 6:16 pm

I really think Caleb Swanigan is going to be a good player in the NBA.
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Re: Potential sleepers 

Post#843 » by SBM » Fri May 12, 2017 7:07 pm

Devin Robinson has the physical tools to be Andre Roberson or better. Thomas Bryant has the tools to be a good backup big at worse.
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Re: Potential sleepers 

Post#844 » by Just_Bullz » Sat May 13, 2017 4:40 am

Anyone feeling positive on jonathan motley?
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Post#845 » by AlfieJaegar » Sat May 13, 2017 5:17 am

Just_Bullz wrote:Anyone feeling positive on jonathan motley?

Me.I think he is one of best prospects to fall to the 2. round.He can crash the board so well at the both ends of the floor.Even though he has a great wingspan he isn't that tall.So needs to get stronger.He can be perfect fit to small ball lineup as a 5.
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Post#846 » by Just_Bullz » Sat May 13, 2017 7:22 am

AlfieJaegar wrote:
Just_Bullz wrote:Anyone feeling positive on jonathan motley?

Me.I think he is one of best prospects to fall to the 2. round.He can crash the board so well at the both ends of the floor.Even though he has a great wingspan he isn't that tall.So needs to get stronger.He can be perfect fit to small ball lineup as a 5.


I like his offensive mid range game but the knock on him is his lower bb IQ

He destroyed jarette allen during their matchup
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Post#847 » by AlfieJaegar » Sat May 13, 2017 7:32 am

Just_Bullz wrote:
AlfieJaegar wrote:
Just_Bullz wrote:Anyone feeling positive on jonathan motley?

Me.I think he is one of best prospects to fall to the 2. round.He can crash the board so well at the both ends of the floor.Even though he has a great wingspan he isn't that tall.So needs to get stronger.He can be perfect fit to small ball lineup as a 5.


I like his offensive mid range game but the knock on him is his lower bb IQ

He destroyed jarette allen during their matchup

Yeah.But if I was a coach I wouldn't give him big role on the offense.Set screens,roll hard and crash boards.
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Re: Potential sleepers 

Post#848 » by Roy The Natural » Sat May 13, 2017 10:16 am

Pasecniks. Though I think he'll probably end up in the mid 1st round by the time the draft rolls around.
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Re: Potential sleepers 

Post#849 » by doordoor123 » Sat May 13, 2017 1:54 pm

SBM wrote:Devin Robinson has the physical tools to be Andre Roberson or better. Thomas Bryant has the tools to be a good backup big at worse.


Both of them just don't have a good feel for the game.


Thomas Robinson is really a unique player offensively, but his lack of defense, his immobility in small spaces and his lack of strength scare me. 100% he won't get minutes right away in the NBA. I also don't think any coach is going to let him handle the ball dribbling down the court like he does in college. I like his personality and hope the best for him, but he has a lot to figure out.
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Re: Potential sleepers 

Post#850 » by spidythejoe » Sat May 13, 2017 3:26 pm

Frank Mason seems like a guys destined for a solid NBA career. Tough, versatile, smart and super athletic.
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Re: Potential sleepers 

Post#851 » by SBM » Mon May 15, 2017 3:41 am

doordoor123 wrote:
SBM wrote:Devin Robinson has the physical tools to be Andre Roberson or better. Thomas Bryant has the tools to be a good backup big at worse.


Both of them just don't have a good feel for the game.


Thomas Robinson is really a unique player offensively, but his lack of defense, his immobility in small spaces and his lack of strength scare me. 100% he won't get minutes right away in the NBA. I also don't think any coach is going to let him handle the ball dribbling down the court like he does in college. I like his personality and hope the best for him, but he has a lot to figure out.
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I said Thomas Bryant. All I know is as a freshman he produced well in points and rebounds, thats like meat and potatoes and when I watched Devin Robinson at Florida he looked good, now his measurables say he can carve himself out a career.
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Re: Potential sleepers 

Post#852 » by blackham9258 » Mon May 15, 2017 4:12 am

Frank Jackson, 6'3.25", close to top overall athlete at combine. Just scratching the surface.
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Re: Potential sleepers 

Post#853 » by doordoor123 » Mon May 15, 2017 5:28 am

SBM wrote:
doordoor123 wrote:
SBM wrote:Devin Robinson has the physical tools to be Andre Roberson or better. Thomas Bryant has the tools to be a good backup big at worse.


Both of them just don't have a good feel for the game.


Thomas Robinson is really a unique player offensively, but his lack of defense, his immobility in small spaces and his lack of strength scare me. 100% he won't get minutes right away in the NBA. I also don't think any coach is going to let him handle the ball dribbling down the court like he does in college. I like his personality and hope the best for him, but he has a lot to figure out.
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I said Thomas Bryant. All I know is as a freshman he produced well in points and rebounds, thats like meat and potatoes and when I watched Devin Robinson at Florida he looked good, now his measurables say he can carve himself out a career.
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Lol it was spell check on my phone. I guess I've written Thomas Robinson a lot on it.
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Re: Potential sleepers 

Post#854 » by Blazinaway » Mon May 15, 2017 2:42 pm

retrobro90 wrote:
getrichordie wrote:What is the take on Semi Ojeleye? Man people are sleeping on this guy, I feel. Great athlete. Good instincts. A bit of a tweener but it looks like he has a solid foundation to build on going into the NBA. I'm really falling in love with his tools and playmaking on both ends. I think if you put him with the right trainer, great things will happen.


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I was high on him for a while and I still think he can be a good player but it seems like his biggest knocks are his low IQ and stiff hips. He's great guarding the post at the college level because of his strong base but he can't open his hips in a defensive stance when guarding dribble penetrators. Lot of scouts wonder about his versatility for this reason and think he should primarily be a 4 but with his size and length he's not a perfect physical specimen for that position. His shot looks projectable but he never really stepped too far from the college 3 point line. Really low assist numbers too. Kind of a ball stopper. Also he looks like the teenage boy dinosaur from the show Dinosaurs.


I don't know about the "hip thing" but given his excellent athleticism shown at the combine with his quickness and agility and jumping it seems to me he can guard multiple positions (guards and wings) and that is at 241 lbs! Yeah he has limited wingspan but if he can shoot it well like he did in college then I think he can be a soild rotational player
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Re: Potential sleepers 

Post#855 » by Prokorov » Mon May 15, 2017 3:04 pm

getrichordie wrote:What is the take on Semi Ojeleye? Man people are sleeping on this guy, I feel. Great athlete. Good instincts. A bit of a tweener but it looks like he has a solid foundation to build on going into the NBA. I'm really falling in love with his tools and playmaking on both ends. I think if you put him with the right trainer, great things will happen.


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i mentioned in the other thread that i hope the nets take him at #22 and that he is my favorite wing in this draft outside the top 5. 2 way potential and can shoot. not a star but he will be an elite starting role/glue guy.
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Re: Potential sleepers 

Post#856 » by Prokorov » Mon May 15, 2017 3:06 pm

SBM wrote:Devin Robinson has the physical tools to be Andre Roberson or better. Thomas Bryant has the tools to be a good backup big at worse.


Yup i love robinson as well.... i think he will go late first, everyone will call it a reach cause the mocks said round 2, then he will turn out to be a solid player
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Re: Potential sleepers 

Post#857 » by tester551 » Mon May 15, 2017 4:01 pm

What are people's thoughts on Justin Jackson (Maryland)?

After the combine, I watched 1 Maryland game on youtube. I came away impressed. I think he had a lot of untapped potential moving forward. His 3 looks really good, and I really liked how attentive he is on D.

I like him better than the UNC Justin Jackson.
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Re: Potential sleepers 

Post#858 » by EvanZ » Mon May 15, 2017 9:52 pm

tester551 wrote:What are people's thoughts on Justin Jackson (Maryland)?

After the combine, I watched 1 Maryland game on youtube. I came away impressed. I think he had a lot of untapped potential moving forward. His 3 looks really good, and I really liked how attentive he is on D.

I like him better than the UNC Justin Jackson.


Yeah, a lot of us like JJ Maryland >> JJ UNC.
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Re: Potential sleepers 

Post#859 » by Osirus89 » Mon May 15, 2017 11:34 pm

blackham9258 wrote:Frank Jackson, 6'3.25", close to top overall athlete at combine. Just scratching the surface.

I'm starting to like frank Jackson more and more. He could be a very good combo guard.
I'm hoping Okc can swipe him somehow.
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Re: Potential sleepers 

Post#860 » by GimmeDat » Tue May 16, 2017 12:36 am

I definitely like Frank Jackson, a guy with few weaknesses. The question is, how high. I think I have him as a 17-22 sort of guy.

Thought about him for the Bulls but figure he's a bit of a reach at 16.

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