Future Draft Classes (Prospects) II

clyde21 · Post #261 » by **clyde21** » Thu Apr 8, 2021 8:45 pm

Alabama gets Nimari Burnett

No-Man · Post #262 » by **No-Man** » Thu Apr 8, 2021 9:31 pm

clyde21 wrote:UK will be better than Duke, I'd take Askew/Grady over Roach/Moore tbh, Griffin and Banchero are good but UK is getting Tshiebwe in the front court and adding Collins/Hopkins, and Allen is the best shooter on either team

Askew / Hickman
Grady / Brooks
Allen / Toppin
Collins / Hopkins
Tshiebwe / Ware

Lmao are you serious? also Askew is leaving, Mintz will be back, and Banchero alone is so much better than anyone UK has

Collins+Oscar is a terrible pairing

clyde21 · Post #263 » by **clyde21** » Thu Apr 8, 2021 10:14 pm

Fischella wrote:
clyde21 wrote:UK will be better than Duke, I'd take Askew/Grady over Roach/Moore tbh, Griffin and Banchero are good but UK is getting Tshiebwe in the front court and adding Collins/Hopkins, and Allen is the best shooter on either team

Askew / Hickman
Grady / Brooks
Allen / Toppin
Collins / Hopkins
Tshiebwe / Ware

Lmao are you serious? also Askew is leaving, Mintz will be back, and Banchero alone is so much better than anyone UK has

Collins+Oscar is a terrible pairing

oh im dead serious, and if it's gonna be Mintz over Askew that's even better for UK.

No-Man · Post #264 » by **No-Man** » Fri Apr 9, 2021 10:19 am

Zakharov transferring, I would expect somebody else to leave Gonzaga at least

clyde21 · Post #265 » by **clyde21** » Fri Apr 9, 2021 4:48 pm

makes sense, there's not gonna be any minutes for him with a Timme/Chet/Watson front court rotation, there's Ballo too, unless he decides to bounce too.

clyde21 · Post #266 » by **clyde21** » Tue Apr 13, 2021 9:09 pm

Walker Kessler transfering to Auburn

clyde21 · Post #267 » by **clyde21** » Tue Apr 13, 2021 9:10 pm

Ballo transfering from Gonzaga, wasn't really gonna get that many minutes

peZt · Post #268 » by **peZt** » Thu Apr 15, 2021 7:34 pm

This is very far in the future but 2006 born Turkish Forward Demir Dogan might be the best turkish prospect ever. Not might, definitely is. And probably one of the most talented guys in Europe rn.
Unfortunately there is barely any footage out there but he is a super long 6'9' forward with amazing fluidity and handles for his size.
They call him the turkish Durant (tbf, they call every young guy who's tall and lanky the next Durant).

Some very short clips from last year. But they are enough to immediately recognize the immense potential.
I don't think there are many examples of kids as tall, as long, as fluid, as fast with such good handles at age 14

He must be 13 here

Watch on YouTube

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clyde21 · Post #269 » by **clyde21** » Fri Apr 16, 2021 5:36 pm

Read on Twitter

clyde21 · Post #270 » by **clyde21** » Sat Apr 17, 2021 2:00 am

Duke gets Theo John via transfer

which makes sense, no way were they satisfied with just Banchero/Coleman/Williams rotation at the 4-5

Roach / Keels
Moore / Baker
Griffin / Coleman
Banchero / Coleman
Williams / John

clyde21 · Post #271 » by **clyde21** » Mon Apr 19, 2021 5:28 pm

Chet to Gonzaga is official

Post #272 » by **Goudelock** » Mon Apr 19, 2021 5:42 pm

So as someone who doesn't keep up with high school prospects, can someone explain to me what the difference is between Chet Holmgren and Thon Maker. At least superficially, they both seem like similar prospects. Lanky, has fluidity but maybe not explosiveness, and can shoot.

Ettorefm · Post #273 » by **Ettorefm** » Mon Apr 19, 2021 6:26 pm

Goudelock wrote:So as someone who doesn't keep up with high school prospects, can someone explain to me what the difference is between Chet Holmgren and Thon Maker. At least superficially, they both seem like similar prospects. Lanky, has fluidity but maybe not explosiveness, and can shoot.

Chet Holgrem can handle, pass, create his own shot.

clyde21 · Post #274 » by **clyde21** » Mon Apr 19, 2021 7:10 pm

Goudelock wrote:So as someone who doesn't keep up with high school prospects, can someone explain to me what the difference is between Chet Holmgren and Thon Maker. At least superficially, they both seem like similar prospects. Lanky, has fluidity but maybe not explosiveness, and can shoot.

ball skills, rim protection and general bbiq

BoutPractice · Post #275 » by **BoutPractice** » Mon Apr 19, 2021 7:54 pm

First, a disclaimer: I got Thon Maker completely wrong and no prospect is a sure thing - but Chet's upside to me is one of the highest I've ever seen.

Last time I had that feeling with an American player - of being someone who can change the nature of the game - was Anthony Davis. (You can't always be wrong) Porzingis is a good comparison but I wasn't sold on his BBIQ whereas Chet gives me AD vibes on that front. Everything looks fluid, the reflexes are impeccable... I think he has the "mental quickness" needed to succeed at the highest level.

Unlike Poku who seems more like a do-it-all perimeter player ala Kirilenko or Giannis, I would try to develop Chet as a combo big. Upper range scenario, imagine a rim protector, who can shoot 3s, put pressure on defenses as a pick and roll/pick and pop threat, and take his man off the drible with agility and creativity like a Dirk when needed (though he lacks the all-time great iso ability and array of midrangers), with above average passing ability so you can't just rush him into turnovers. Also the rare C who can grab the rebound and go coast to coast. All in all a winning player, think KG statlines but with long 2s replaced by 3s, possibly used as a stretch 5 instead of a 4. Seems to really love the game too... If his body holds up we're talking about a potential "best player on a championship team" type (maybe not the first option, but the best overall player)

(Also if you're looking for entertainment, some of the stuff he does I've never seen anyone do - ever, and I'm not just talking about that absurd move on Steph. He has the potential to be an "oohs" and "aaahs" kind of player)

No-Man · Post #276 » by **No-Man** » Mon Apr 19, 2021 10:24 pm

The problem with Chet is just his body but his game is dope

CptCrunch · Post #277 » by **CptCrunch** » Tue Apr 20, 2021 1:11 am

Goudelock wrote:So as someone who doesn't keep up with high school prospects, can someone explain to me what the difference is between Chet Holmgren and Thon Maker. At least superficially, they both seem like similar prospects. Lanky, has fluidity but maybe not explosiveness, and can shoot.

Thon Maker was 4 years older than he was. If Thon was actually his listed age, he would have been a dope prospect.

Post #278 » by **Duke4life831** » Tue Apr 20, 2021 5:51 pm

Saw this on the wiretap and just curious on everyone's thoughts on it. ESPN top 10 for the upcoming class

1. Paolo Banchero
2. Chet Holmgren
3. Jaden Hardy
4. Yannick Nzosa
5. Jabari Smith
6. Adrian Griffin
7. Peyton Watson
8. Patrick Baldwin
9. Caleb Houstan
10. Kennedy Chandler

Just curious how yall view the upcoming class. I think Baldwin is low in this, and I still think that AJ is going to be a top 3 pick. I know Im a homer but that dude just seems to have it all.

europeannbafan · Post #279 » by **europeannbafan** » Tue Apr 20, 2021 5:54 pm

Updated 2022 ESPN mock has Banchero as number 1.
They claim he has grown to 6'11, 250 pounds and his game has further evolved in the past year.

Post #280 » by **Duke4life831** » Tue Apr 20, 2021 7:51 pm

europeannbafan wrote:Updated 2022 ESPN mock has Banchero as number 1.
They claim he has grown to 6'11, 250 pounds and his game has further evolved in the past year.

I know his jumper has definitely been progressing and he does look bigger, but if he is really 6’11, that’s huge.