Raptors plan to bring OG Anunoby back...

[Dennis 37]

No one rushing back here for a couple seasons

We are gonna be pretty bad for a while and it hasn't sunk in yet for many fans

Yes we have 'talented young players' but that will take another 2-3 season to be back near where we were to consider make any moves to elevate.

OG is in a better place and the Knicks will try to improve to better compete whereas Masai and Co. choose to do otherwise, for better or worse?

I disagree with this direction but it sure beats the stagnation we were left in for the past 3 seasons.

One thing is that there has been noise for a couple of years that OG wants an increased offensive role. I'm not seeing that in New York. The most shots he's had at NY is 15 with the rest of the games at 12 or less. Whether he comes back home might be remote, but he might not stay in NY.

Only way he gets an increased role offensively is on a very bad team. I think more then anything he wanted his value up for his new contract and his impact on the D end in NY may be enough.

But if he isn't going to get a bigger role, and he actually misses Toronto, he might as well have that reduced role here. Is NY going to give him everything his bird rights make possible? If I were OG, and I didn't get an increased offensive role, I'd tell them to forget any discount. Pay me the bag or I'm going home.

[ItsDanger]

Bigger role= trade me. In NY, he can get more DPOY attention, especially on a playoff team.

[refshateRaps]

One thing is that there has been noise for a couple of years that OG wants an increased offensive role. I'm not seeing that in New York. The most shots he's had at NY is 15 with the rest of the games at 12 or less. Whether he comes back home might be remote, but he might not stay in NY.

Only way he gets an increased role offensively is on a very bad team. I think more then anything he wanted his value up for his new contract and his impact on the D end in NY may be enough.

But if he isn't going to get a bigger role, and he actually misses Toronto, he might as well have that reduced role here. Is NY going to give him everything his bird rights make possible? If I were OG, and I didn't get an increased offensive role, I'd tell them to forget any discount. Pay me the bag or I'm going home.

Get lots of zzzz's in the coming days. Time heals all wounds.

[SurgeIblocka]

Regardless of whether he comes back or not, the Raps should be driving his price up like Houston did with Fred. We need to make sure NY doesn’t have cap left over after signing OG to get better in the future, because they are in our division.

[WaltFrazier]

Regardless of whether he comes back or not, the Raps should be driving his price up like Houston did with Fred. We need to make sure NY doesn’t have cap left over after signing OG to get better in the future, because they are in our division.

That, or else the Raptors should focus on fixing their own team. With the CAA connection, OG is going to get what he's going to get.

[ConSarnit]

I am certainly not ruling this one out.
OG insisted too many times about wanting to be here "I want to be here" publicly even going out of his way to say it.
I never believed any of those reports that he wanted out.

As has been poster earlier:

OG's agent: Sam Rose

Knicks president: Leon Rose

Leon Rose is Sam Rose's father.

OG's new contract with the Knicks has already been worked out and was before the trade was even completed. OG is not coming back here.

Are you saying CAA 'owns' him and players like Booker and Zion ?! No, you are not.
Yes, the Knicks are in pole-position.
Yes, it makes the negotiations much easier however being an unrestricted FA is being an unrestricted FA: Players don't just fight and go on strikes to get those kind of rights to then just hand them over to agencies(or/and the Knicks franchises with that CAA connection).
Bruce is a CAA client and visited the Knicks first during his free agency and ended up in Indianapolis(didn't he)

The OG deal is already done. This isn’t about who owns OG. The Knicks knew exactly how much OG wanted because they talked to his agent during (or even before) trade negotiations. Sam Rose told his father “OG wants 4/140” and Leon said “ok, thats what we’ll give him in the off-season”.

Teams don’t make these types of moves unless they know they are re-signing the player they traded for. OG’s new contract will be done 1 second after the moratorium period for UFA is over because it will have been agreed upon before he was even traded.

There has never been a more obvious case of “this deal is already done”. OG’s agent is the literal son of the Knicks president of basketball operations.

Bruce Brown ended up in Indy because the Knicks offered him $12.5m (MLE, the max they could offer) and Indy offered him $22m. That’s why Brown went to Indy.

[ConSarnit]

Regardless of whether he comes back or not, the Raps should be driving his price up like Houston did with Fred. We need to make sure NY doesn’t have cap left over after signing OG to get better in the future, because they are in our division.

The deal is already done. There won’t be any opportunity for any team to drive up the price on OG because he will sign immediately after UFA starts. OG and the Knicks have already figured his next contract out.

[Dennis 37]

Only way he gets an increased role offensively is on a very bad team. I think more then anything he wanted his value up for his new contract and his impact on the D end in NY may be enough.

But if he isn't going to get a bigger role, and he actually misses Toronto, he might as well have that reduced role here. Is NY going to give him everything his bird rights make possible? If I were OG, and I didn't get an increased offensive role, I'd tell them to forget any discount. Pay me the bag or I'm going home.

Get lots of zzzz's in the coming days. Time heals all wounds.

No wound. Quickly + RJ for Malachi Precious and OG was just fine.

I just relish the idea of messing with the Knicks.

[steveholt]

Maybe Siakam but not OG. Itd be cool to get all those picks and then resign Siakam. His fit with the young bucks was too good that trade is still baffling me.

[djsunyc]

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[mickie]

The OG deal is already done. This isn’t about who owns OG. The Knicks knew exactly how much OG wanted because they talked to his agent during (or even before) trade negotiations. Sam Rose told his father “OG wants 4/140” and Leon said “ok, thats what we’ll give him in the off-season”.

Teams don’t make these types of moves unless they know they are re-signing the player they traded for. OG’s new contract will be done 1 second after the moratorium period for UFA is over because it will have been agreed upon before he was even traded.

There has never been a more obvious case of “this deal is already done”. OG’s agent is the literal son of the Knicks president of basketball operations.

Bruce Brown ended up in Indy because the Knicks offered him $12.5m (MLE, the max they could offer) and Indy offered him $22m. That’s why Brown went to Indy.

NOTHING IS DONE UNTIL THE DOTTED LINE IS SIGNED

Knicks definitely have the upper hand but that's not gonna stop other teams with capspace like the Raptors to throw big money at OG just to screw with Knicks capspace. All i'm saying is other teams in the East will make sure Knicks overpays.

[goinrogue]

Just wait. If raps avoid taking back salary at the deadline, then it’s a pretty good indication we’re after someone in free agency. We will know soon enough but assuming they’re after someone, OG is not a bad guess. It’s a dickish move sure but it’s allowed. And it’s not like Masai is a big Knicks fan.

[ConSarnit]

The OG deal is already done. This isn’t about who owns OG. The Knicks knew exactly how much OG wanted because they talked to his agent during (or even before) trade negotiations. Sam Rose told his father “OG wants 4/140” and Leon said “ok, thats what we’ll give him in the off-season”.

Teams don’t make these types of moves unless they know they are re-signing the player they traded for. OG’s new contract will be done 1 second after the moratorium period for UFA is over because it will have been agreed upon before he was even traded.

There has never been a more obvious case of “this deal is already done”. OG’s agent is the literal son of the Knicks president of basketball operations.

Bruce Brown ended up in Indy because the Knicks offered him $12.5m (MLE, the max they could offer) and Indy offered him $22m. That’s why Brown went to Indy.

NOTHING IS DONE UNTIL THE DOTTED LINE IS SIGNED

Knicks definitely have the upper hand but that's not gonna stop other teams with capspace like the Raptors to throw big money at OG just to screw with Knicks capspace. All i'm saying is other teams in the East will make sure Knicks overpays.

1) that is an insanely risky game to play. OG is not restricted. You're going to offer him the full 4/$180? What if he says yes? Now you not only screwed the Knicks, you screwed yourself by massively overpaying a role player.

2) as has been said many times: OG's agent is THE SON OF THE KNICKS PRESIDENT OF BASKETBALL OPERATIONS.

3) part of the negotiations of these trades is the incoming team settling on new contract terms with the player. they don't admit to this at the time but it has been acknowledged by former execs that this is the way it works

OG is not even going to take offers in free agency because this deal will be signed 1 minute into the free agency period. OG is already going to be paid (by the Knicks) at the top of his range anyways so any type of ploy to drive up his price would only be disastrous for the offering team if OG accepts. That's if teams even bother trying to contact OG's agent because they already assume the deal is done.

[ConSarnit]

Just wait. If raps avoid taking back salary at the deadline, then it’s a pretty good indication we’re after someone in free agency. We will know soon enough but assuming they’re after someone, OG is not a bad guess. It’s a dickish move sure but it’s allowed. And it’s not like Masai is a big Knicks fan.

How does this make sense though? Isn't it likely that a large part of the reason we traded OG was because we didn't want to meet his new salary demands? So now we're going to stick it to the Knicks by overpaying OG, something we were trying to avoid in the first place?

If we thought we could have re-signed OG to a fair contract why did we trade him in the first place? To get him away from the Knicks we'd assuredly have to overpay him and how does that help us? It makes no sense.

[MiamiSPX]

Man, some of you guys would have taken even longer than Masai to move off these guys, if you would have at all lol.

[Chandan]

This very idea is fantasy and delusional.

I mean... It sounds very unlikely even if we are LA or miami. Why would OG who is having the best stretch of his career under Thibs come back and play for Darko who has no idea what he's doing.

Bruce Brown already sniffed out trouble 2 days after experiencing practice and pledged alligence to a rival.

[mihaic]

This very idea is fantasy and delusional.

I mean... It sounds very unlikely even if we are LA or miami. Why would OG who is having the best stretch of his career under Thibs come back and play for Darko who has no idea what he's doing.

Bruce Brown already sniffed out trouble 2 days after experiencing practice and pledged alligence to a rival.

The only reason OG comes back is $$$$$$

If NY is lowballing him OG may ask his conflict-of-interest agent to look for other teams that may offer more.

[refshateRaps]

But if he isn't going to get a bigger role, and he actually misses Toronto, he might as well have that reduced role here. Is NY going to give him everything his bird rights make possible? If I were OG, and I didn't get an increased offensive role, I'd tell them to forget any discount. Pay me the bag or I'm going home.

Get lots of zzzz's in the coming days. Time heals all wounds.

No wound. Quickly + RJ for Malachi Precious and OG was just fine.

I just relish the idea of messing with the Knicks.

I think both teams did OK here in the trade.

But OG is gonzo and we gonna suck for another year or two that wont attract any real talent. I mean we couldn't land the missing piece when we had the talent. Tough times are here.