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Re: PG - Raps Lose 

Post#41 » by Loso04 » Sat Mar 2, 2024 1:36 pm

Coco Costanza wrote:Good news: Pacers lost
Bad news: So did Grizzlies


Pascal -43 in 20 minutes! :noway:
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Re: PG - Raps Lose 

Post#42 » by Tha Cynic » Sat Mar 2, 2024 2:23 pm

Shakril wrote:
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Duffman100 wrote:Game was winnable if quickly and Trent didn’t suck

Nice to see Dick continue to score in different ways


Outside of Barnes the rest of the team is pretty limited, so they weren't winning this. Everyone else is a role player who plays off Barnes


This comment is blatantly false.

IQ, RJ both can create for themselves and others.

Poeltl and Dick have their own strenghts on offense.

With Darko's Ball sharing, the system itself creates opportunities.

We did not lose cause Barnes was hurt, we did lose cause we made avoidable mistakes.


No, they can't create. RJ on some of his drives can kick it out more, but he works as a 3rd or 4th option while catching on the move. He's not a guy who's good as a featured option as he is very limited and relies on being able to get to the rim or having wide open 3s.

Quickley is best used as an offball scorer. He can potentially create for others and that's what they're trying to develop him into.

Their best options today are DHOs and pick and rolls but even in those pick and rolls Quickley is going to have to be much better as a scorer off their picks to really shift the defense. He's very slow and hesitant off those. We're going to see a lot of Poeltl and Olynyk in the high post creating. The offense is clunky off that though because our guards are very slow to release. Dick needs to be featured in this more.

I think you guys overrate RJ as a scorer too much. I like what he's doing here but he's not what some of you think he is. He's only good at one thing and he has a ton of work to do and a lot of him will probably require him to completely overhaul his form.
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Re: PG - Raps Lose 

Post#43 » by Tha Cynic » Sat Mar 2, 2024 2:27 pm

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nestea wrote:
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We need guys to Shoot well and defend like crazy. It's their only chance to win.

GTJ was missing everything and Quickley isn't comfortable taking contested shots.

Gradey Dick is the only guy who can score on the move, but this team has no one who can create outside of Barnes.

Barrett is a one trick pony.

Poeltl doesn't know how to use glass.

Brown thinks he's Damian Lillard.

Olynyk looks like he thinks he's more than he is.

Things need to settle down lol.

I just pray that draft pick miraculously becomes something even though general consensus is that we'll end up with another role player even with a high draft pick..


Love reading positive posts from experts like this.


It all makes sense when you realize he is a pensare/messiah devotee. What does "scoring on the move" mean?


What are you going on about? Do you just go around making up stuff for no reason? :lol:

I've seen like one 5 minute clip of Pensare all my life (because guys like you bring him up all the time), and absolutely hated Bargnani who Messiah loved. You're the only one on here who talks about that guy. Pensare is basically the Barnes version of what you are with FVV from what I see posted here, so you two have a lot in common, which is why you probably mention him a lot.

To make it clear - I welcome all opinions including your crazy FVV takes and midnight drunk rants. I'm here for entertainment.
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Re: PG - Raps Lose 

Post#44 » by LBJKB24MJ23 » Sat Mar 2, 2024 3:25 pm

Loso04 wrote:
Coco Costanza wrote:Good news: Pacers lost
Bad news: So did Grizzlies


Pascal -43 in 20 minutes! :noway:


the honeymoon is over

will he even get a max... stay tuned.
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Re: PG - Raps Lose 

Post#45 » by DelAbbot » Sat Mar 2, 2024 3:26 pm

Tha Cynic wrote:
mdenny wrote:
nestea wrote:
Love reading positive posts from experts like this.


It all makes sense when you realize he is a pensare/messiah devotee. What does "scoring on the move" mean?


What are you going on about? Do you just go around making up stuff for no reason? :lol:

I've seen like one 5 minute clip of pensare all my life (because guys like you being him up all the time), and absolutely hated Bargnani who Messiah loved. You're the only one on here who talks about that guy. Pensare is basically the Barnes version of what you are with FVV from what I see posted here, so you two have a lot in common, which is why you probably mention him a lot.


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Re: PG - Raps Lose 

Post#46 » by mdenny » Sat Mar 2, 2024 3:40 pm

Tha Cynic wrote:
mdenny wrote:
nestea wrote:
Love reading positive posts from experts like this.


It all makes sense when you realize he is a pensare/messiah devotee. What does "scoring on the move" mean?


What are you going on about? Do you just go around making up stuff for no reason? :lol:

I've seen like one 5 minute clip of pensare all my life (because guys like you being him up all the time), and absolutely hated Bargnani who Messiah loved. You're the only one on here who talks about that guy. Pensare is basically the Barnes version of what you are with FVV from what I see posted here, so you two have a lot in common, which is why you probably mention him a lot.


It's hilarious to watch you pretend to know what you are talking about. "Scoring on the move" lol.
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Re: PG - Raps Lose 

Post#47 » by Tha Cynic » Sat Mar 2, 2024 3:51 pm

mdenny wrote:
Tha Cynic wrote:
mdenny wrote:
It all makes sense when you realize he is a pensare/messiah devotee. What does "scoring on the move" mean?


What are you going on about? Do you just go around making up stuff for no reason? :lol:

I've seen like one 5 minute clip of pensare all my life (because guys like you being him up all the time), and absolutely hated Bargnani who Messiah loved. You're the only one on here who talks about that guy. Pensare is basically the Barnes version of what you are with FVV from what I see posted here, so you two have a lot in common, which is why you probably mention him a lot.


It's hilarious to watch you pretend to know what you are talking about. "Scoring on the move" lol.


Scoring on the move can't be that hard of a concept to understand, can it? Or are you just playing dumb? What are we in, biology class? :lol:

Sorry, I don't sit around watching guys like pensare like you, I just watch and play basketball.
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Re: PG - Raps Lose 

Post#48 » by mdenny » Sat Mar 2, 2024 3:55 pm

Tha Cynic wrote:
mdenny wrote:
Tha Cynic wrote:
What are you going on about? Do you just go around making up stuff for no reason? :lol:

I've seen like one 5 minute clip of pensare all my life (because guys like you being him up all the time), and absolutely hated Bargnani who Messiah loved. You're the only one on here who talks about that guy. Pensare is basically the Barnes version of what you are with FVV from what I see posted here, so you two have a lot in common, which is why you probably mention him a lot.


It's hilarious to watch you pretend to know what you are talking about. "Scoring on the move" lol.


Scoring on the move can't be that hard of a concept to understand, can it? Or are you just playing dumb? What are we in, biology class? :lol:

Sorry, I don't sit around watching guys like pensare like you, I just watch and play basketball.


If it's not a hard concept please enlighten us. What is "scoring on the move" and why is Dick the only one capable of it.
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Re: PG - Raps Lose 

Post#49 » by Tha Cynic » Sat Mar 2, 2024 4:11 pm

mdenny wrote:
Tha Cynic wrote:
mdenny wrote:
It's hilarious to watch you pretend to know what you are talking about. "Scoring on the move" lol.


Scoring on the move can't be that hard of a concept to understand, can it? Or are you just playing dumb? What are we in, biology class? :lol:

Sorry, I don't sit around watching guys like pensare like you, I just watch and play basketball.


If it's not a hard concept please enlighten us. What is "scoring on the move" and why is Dick the only one capable of it.


You have never seen players shoot off the dribble or pull up jumpers to not know what that is and how this team has very limited players who can do that? Go search for some movement shooter videos and you'll understand. Or just search for Brunson, Mitchell, Doncic, Lillard, etc videos

If you want to watch a player who is very limited at shooting jumpers while in motion, watch RJ Barrett - there's a reason why they have him only scoring at the basket or shooting open 3s.

Is this a "aha, I got you because you used the wrong term" moment?
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Post#50 » by WetLikeWater » Sat Mar 2, 2024 4:37 pm

At least draymond gave his son some high praises! Get better soon draymond 2.0 we will miss you!!
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Post#51 » by TorontoBarneys » Sat Mar 2, 2024 5:41 pm

Only 22 games left in the season - thought there were more.
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Re: PG - Raps Lose 

Post#52 » by Scase » Sat Mar 2, 2024 11:10 pm

Tha Cynic wrote:
Shakril wrote:
Tha Cynic wrote:
Outside of Barnes the rest of the team is pretty limited, so they weren't winning this. Everyone else is a role player who plays off Barnes


This comment is blatantly false.

IQ, RJ both can create for themselves and others.

Poeltl and Dick have their own strenghts on offense.

With Darko's Ball sharing, the system itself creates opportunities.

We did not lose cause Barnes was hurt, we did lose cause we made avoidable mistakes.


No, they can't create. RJ on some of his drives can kick it out more, but he works as a 3rd or 4th option. He's not a guy who's good as a featured option because he is very limited and relies on being able to get to the rim or having wide open 3s.

Quickley is best used as an offball scorer. He can potentially create for others and that's what they're trying to develop him into.

Their best options today is DHOs and pick and rolls but even in those pick and rolls Quickley is going to have to be much better as a scorer off their picks to really shift the defense. He's very slow and hesitant off those. We're going to see a lot of Poeltl and Olynyk in the high post creating. The offense is clunky off that though because our guards are very slow to release. Dick needs to be featured in this more.

I think you guys overrated RJ we a scorer do much. I like what he's doing here but he's not what some of you think he is. He's only good at one thing and he has a toooon of work to do and a lot of him will require him to completely overhaul his form.

Most of them dont understand why RJ has looked better since he got here. But with Barnes out and the offence being a mess, they might soon learn. I expect Gradey to take a slide back again too, hope I'm wrong about that though.
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Post#53 » by HumbleRen » Sun Mar 3, 2024 12:41 am

RJ is a play finisher, not a play creator.
IQ is decent at it but he needs the PNR to create.

Scottie was our only play creator, he’s not great at it yet but he’s still a level up above our other players.

It’s going to be a rough watch but luckily this is good for the tanks.
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Post#54 » by Oscirus » Sun Mar 3, 2024 1:46 am

Scase wrote:
Tha Cynic wrote:
Shakril wrote:
This comment is blatantly false.

IQ, RJ both can create for themselves and others.

Poeltl and Dick have their own strenghts on offense.

With Darko's Ball sharing, the system itself creates opportunities.

We did not lose cause Barnes was hurt, we did lose cause we made avoidable mistakes.


No, they can't create. RJ on some of his drives can kick it out more, but he works as a 3rd or 4th option. He's not a guy who's good as a featured option because he is very limited and relies on being able to get to the rim or having wide open 3s.

Quickley is best used as an offball scorer. He can potentially create for others and that's what they're trying to develop him into.

Their best options today is DHOs and pick and rolls but even in those pick and rolls Quickley is going to have to be much better as a scorer off their picks to really shift the defense. He's very slow and hesitant off those. We're going to see a lot of Poeltl and Olynyk in the high post creating. The offense is clunky off that though because our guards are very slow to release. Dick needs to be featured in this more.

I think you guys overrated RJ we a scorer do much. I like what he's doing here but he's not what some of you think he is. He's only good at one thing and he has a toooon of work to do and a lot of him will require him to completely overhaul his form.

Most of them dont understand why RJ has looed better since he got here. But with Barnes out and the offence being a mess, they might soon learn. I expect Gradey to take a slide back again too, hope I'm wrong about that though.

If the theory that rj is only good as a 3rd or fourth option is true then he should've ate in NY where he played with better scorers and playmakers as his first and second options yet he didn't. Calling him a 3rd or 4th option is underrating him and the work he's done in toronto.
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Post#55 » by johanliebert » Sun Mar 3, 2024 4:31 am

WetLikeWater wrote:At least draymond gave his son some high praises! Get better soon draymond 2.0 we will miss you!!

Draymonds a connector whereas Scottie can actually run point. He had some crass thinking he paved the way :lol:
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Re: PG - Raps Lose 

Post#56 » by Scase » Sun Mar 3, 2024 3:43 pm

Oscirus wrote:
Scase wrote:
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No, they can't create. RJ on some of his drives can kick it out more, but he works as a 3rd or 4th option. He's not a guy who's good as a featured option because he is very limited and relies on being able to get to the rim or having wide open 3s.

Quickley is best used as an offball scorer. He can potentially create for others and that's what they're trying to develop him into.

Their best options today is DHOs and pick and rolls but even in those pick and rolls Quickley is going to have to be much better as a scorer off their picks to really shift the defense. He's very slow and hesitant off those. We're going to see a lot of Poeltl and Olynyk in the high post creating. The offense is clunky off that though because our guards are very slow to release. Dick needs to be featured in this more.

I think you guys overrated RJ we a scorer do much. I like what he's doing here but he's not what some of you think he is. He's only good at one thing and he has a toooon of work to do and a lot of him will require him to completely overhaul his form.

Most of them dont understand why RJ has looed better since he got here. But with Barnes out and the offence being a mess, they might soon learn. I expect Gradey to take a slide back again too, hope I'm wrong about that though.

If the theory that rj is only good as a 3rd or fourth option is true then he should've ate in NY where he played with better scorers and playmakers as his first and second options yet he didn't. Calling him a 3rd or 4th option is underrating him and the work he's done in toronto.

I don't know how many games you've actually watched of him here, but I've watched them all. RJ is a recipient of good passes, and he tends to put himself in good places to receive those passes. Barnes drives our offence and most of those assists, either directly, or indirectly. Without him, RJ is very likely to suffer. It's not a shot at RJ, he is just limited in how he scores.
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Post#57 » by ItsDanger » Sun Mar 3, 2024 6:36 pm

No game thread today? The apathy is real.
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Post#58 » by Chandan » Sun Mar 3, 2024 7:00 pm

ItsDanger wrote:No game thread today? The apathy is real.

Just waiting for draft night
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Post#59 » by Tor_Raps » Sun Mar 3, 2024 7:15 pm

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ItsDanger wrote:No game thread today? The apathy is real.

Just waiting for draft night


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Post#60 » by ArthurVandelay » Sun Mar 3, 2024 7:19 pm

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ItsDanger wrote:No game thread today? The apathy is real.

Just waiting for draft night


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