Can Jamario Moon make the All Defensive - 2nd Team?

Tdot86 · Post #1 » by **Tdot86** » Wed Jan 23, 2008 1:10 pm

What do you guys ( objectively ) think Jamario's chances are at getting a spot on the All-Defensive team lists?

I think if he wasn't a rookie his chances would be a lot higher. But based on his defense this year, he still should be considered.

Thoughts?

Rapcity_11 · Post #2 » by **Rapcity_11** » Wed Jan 23, 2008 1:33 pm

He's good but not that good.

MjM2xTreMe · Post #3 » by **MjM2xTreMe** » Wed Jan 23, 2008 1:47 pm

He's a decent defender but not enough to be considered to be on the defensive team. Do you have any stats to show why he should get the nod?

chsh22 · Post #4 » by **chsh22** » Wed Jan 23, 2008 1:54 pm

Keeping in mind that for all his defensive play he's still 2nd in almost all defensive statistical categories amongst rookies, I don't think he will get the nod.

douggood · Post #5 » by **douggood** » Wed Jan 23, 2008 2:06 pm

He is a good statistical defender, ie josh smith, but is not that good 1 on 1 defender like Bruce Bowen.

Post #6 » by **CPT** » Wed Jan 23, 2008 2:23 pm

I'd argue that All-Defensive team appointments often favour statistical defenders, but even if that's the case, Moon probably isn't a strong enough statistical defender to get a nod. He's 'only' at 1.6 bpg (20th in the NBA) and 1.0 spg (not in the top 50).

To his credit though, his defensive stats according to 82games.com are very good. He holds opposing SFs to a PER of 15.5 on .420 eFG%, which puts him right up there with the best defenders in the league at that position.

While he probably won't get the nod, it's really nice to have a guy who can even be considered for All-Defensive Team honours playing for the Raptors. I can't remember the last time that was the case.

Hendrix · Post #7 » by **Hendrix** » Wed Jan 23, 2008 2:30 pm

There is a lot of good defenders at the forward in the league. Bowen, Garnett, Battier, Josh Smith, Rasheed, Duncan, Gerald Wallace, Josh Howard, Ron Artest, Marion, Tayshaun Prince, Andrei Keirilenko, and Caron Butler. Doubt he'd make it over these guys.

Voodoochile · Post #8 » by **Voodoochile** » Wed Jan 23, 2008 2:37 pm

Blocks != Defence

The_Hater · Post #9 » by **The_Hater** » Wed Jan 23, 2008 3:30 pm

What Hendrix said.

Whether Moon deserves it or not, the forward position is by far the deepest defensive position in the league and rookies rarely get any defensive love. All-D team reps are earned over time.

chsh22 · Post #10 » by **chsh22** » Wed Jan 23, 2008 3:53 pm

The_Hater wrote:What Hendrix said.

Whether Moon deserves it or not, the forward position is by far the deepest defensive position in the league and rookies rarely get any defensive love. All-D team reps are earned over time.

Indeed. If we start this thread 2 years from now, maybe the answers will be different if he improves his game.

db lunatic · Post #11 » by **db lunatic** » Wed Jan 23, 2008 4:38 pm

The_Hater wrote:What Hendrix said.

Whether Moon deserves it or not, the forward position is by far the deepest defensive position in the league and rookies rarely get any defensive love. All-D team reps are earned over time.

Exactally, he's gonna need a couple years to build his reputation as a All-NBA Defender and hopefully he'll have a statistical improvement in the blocks, steals, and rebound categories.

TR50 · Post #12 » by **TR50** » Wed Jan 23, 2008 8:25 pm

theirs the likes of Bowen and Artest ahead of him....more but i cant think of any off the top of my head