Casey: Ross has the most upside on the team

sanity · Post #101 » by **sanity** » Thu Aug 22, 2013 3:42 pm

Ross has the potential to be a ~17 ppg player with lock-down defense. Wow!

Time for Change · Post #102 » by **Time for Change** » Thu Aug 22, 2013 3:51 pm

JWiLL02 wrote:
theycallmeZZ wrote:Ross has ONE rough year

RealGM: Bust, failed pick, etc

This. It's amazing how many people on here just **** on Ross while giving him no support to improve.

Nobody is saying he's an all star, but I don't see why he can't become a 16-17/5/3 type in his prime under the right circumstances. He still has the potential to be a lockdown defender with a little more discipline.

The reason people say he can't is because no one ever has. Guys who put up rookie seasons similar to Ross don't turn into 17/5/3 guys. They turn into Shandon Anderson, Brandon Rush or Joey Graham. Look how similar Joey's rookie season is to Ross's.

Mr.Raptorsingh · Post #103 » by **Mr.Raptorsingh** » Thu Aug 22, 2013 3:52 pm

sanity wrote:Ross has the potential to be a ~17 ppg player with lock-down defense. Wow!

He just might. Who knows. The point is, you can't judge him solely off of his rookie season, and make a determination as to what kind of player he will be. Too small of a sample size.

TheRealBlizzy · Post #104 » by **TheRealBlizzy** » Thu Aug 22, 2013 3:59 pm

Mr.Raptorsingh wrote:
sanity wrote:Ross has the potential to be a ~17 ppg player with lock-down defense. Wow!

He just might. Who knows. The point is, you can't judge him solely off of his rookie season, and make a determination as to what kind of player he will be. Too small of a sample size.

Too small of a sample size? The average career length is 6 years for an NBA player.. If they don't prove them self within the first 2 they usually leave the league.. especially wings, who are a dime a dozen.

LLJ · Post #105 » by **LLJ** » Thu Aug 22, 2013 4:08 pm

Ross is the type of player who would be great in NBA 2K, because you get to think for him.

Amped · Post #106 » by **Amped** » Thu Aug 22, 2013 4:57 pm

Only thing making me less excited about next season is this clown who should have been let go the second Ujiri was hired. Ross has potential but Casey's only buttering him up because he was part of the process when drafting him. I see Ross as a solid bench player that's athletic and can stretch the floor with his 3 but nothing more than that. As long as DeRozan is here, I don't see there being a chance for him.

YoungG · Post #107 » by **YoungG** » Thu Aug 22, 2013 4:59 pm

Casey had to have been drunk when he said that...

The_Hater · Post #108 » by **The_Hater** » Thu Aug 22, 2013 5:04 pm

Hoffa69 wrote:I'm by no means a Casey supporter (I want him gone), but I find it hilarious how most of you people hate on the guy for saying something that could be completely true, but you just don't want to believe it. None of you guys know what goes on in practice or his work ethic or what type of shape he is in this year. It's just automatically assumed that Casey is "stupid" because Ross had a rough year.

I hope this kid proves most of the posters wrong on here because he has some really good tools, but Realgm is where people come to hate and sh*t on guys, even rookies which is ridiculous.

I agree with your first statement, that this is a ridiculous reason to hate on Casey. Those that hate Casey would have criticized this comment or the exact oppositie comment because they've decided that everything he says it automatically wrong.

That said, there's zero chance (and I truly mean zero) that this statement 'could be completely true'. Sorry.

J-Roc · Post #109 » by **J-Roc** » Thu Aug 22, 2013 5:11 pm

Casey makes me think of this card given to NY Jets players to help them answer questions.

Casey somehow heard that any player he's asked about must have the greatest upside or be the best at something in the NBA.

dTox · Post #110 » by **dTox** » Thu Aug 22, 2013 5:11 pm

TheRealBlizzy wrote:Holy ****.

Man was serious.

**** it im done, mlse is forever ****.

Think about it this way, you want the team to tank, and what better way to tank than having an incompetent coach leading the way.

TheRealBlizzy · Post #111 » by **TheRealBlizzy** » Thu Aug 22, 2013 5:29 pm

dTox wrote:
TheRealBlizzy wrote:Holy ****.

Man was serious.

**** it im done, mlse is forever ****.

Think about it this way, you want the team to tank, and what better way to tank than having an incompetent coach leading the way.

But we aren't tanking. This team is an 8th seed but casey will turn it into a 10th seed. Both situations are horrible.

Major Giz · Post #112 » by **Major Giz** » Thu Aug 22, 2013 5:37 pm

Bank Shot wrote:Obviously he's forgetting about a certain C on the team but these are some pretty big words from Casey. It will be interesting to see if Casey gives him the opportunity to show us what he's got. Your expectations for Ross this year?

Didn't that C just get traded to the Knicks?

dTox · Post #113 » by **dTox** » Thu Aug 22, 2013 5:37 pm

TheRealBlizzy wrote:
dTox wrote:
Think about it this way, you want the team to tank, and what better way to tank than having an incompetent coach leading the way.

But we aren't tanking. This team is an 8th seed but casey will turn it into a 10th seed. Both situations are horrible.

This team is not an 8th seed, believe me, talent wise it doesn't match the 8th seed contenders (cavs/wiz/hawks), and with his coaching abilities, the team will underperform as usual.

Mr.Raptorsingh · Post #114 » by **Mr.Raptorsingh** » Thu Aug 22, 2013 5:57 pm

TheRealBlizzy wrote:
Mr.Raptorsingh wrote:
sanity wrote:Ross has the potential to be a ~17 ppg player with lock-down defense. Wow!

He just might. Who knows. The point is, you can't judge him solely off of his rookie season, and make a determination as to what kind of player he will be. Too small of a sample size.

Too small of a sample size? The average career length is 6 years for an NBA player.. If they don't prove them self within the first 2 they usually leave the league.. especially wings, who are a dime a dozen.

Okay, so should we give him another year or two, right? Why is that so hard?

TheRealBlizzy · Post #115 » by **TheRealBlizzy** » Thu Aug 22, 2013 6:28 pm

Mr.Raptorsingh wrote:
TheRealBlizzy wrote:
Mr.Raptorsingh wrote:
He just might. Who knows. The point is, you can't judge him solely off of his rookie season, and make a determination as to what kind of player he will be. Too small of a sample size.

Too small of a sample size? The average career length is 6 years for an NBA player.. If they don't prove them self within the first 2 they usually leave the league.. especially wings, who are a dime a dozen.

Okay, so should we give him another year or two, right? Why is that so hard?

Bargnani 2.0?

sanity · Post #116 » by **sanity** » Thu Aug 22, 2013 6:30 pm

http://www.basketball-reference.com/play-index/pcm_finder.cgi?request=1&sum=1&p1=rosste01&y1=2013&p2=derozde01&y2=2010

miruss2001 · Post #117 » by **miruss2001** » Thu Aug 22, 2013 6:40 pm

I'm not giving up on the kid yet considering he's played less meaningful minutes in games than I've spent taking dumps during those very same games.

What I'm getting at is I like to eat Mexican food during Raptors games and he barely gets enough time to evaluate his long term potential.

Spacing · Post #118 » by **Spacing** » Thu Aug 22, 2013 7:13 pm

Thread title should read:

Casey: I am good at bigging up our crappy players

theycallmeZZ · Post #119 » by **theycallmeZZ** » Thu Aug 22, 2013 7:42 pm

TheRealBlizzy wrote:
Mr.Raptorsingh wrote:
TheRealBlizzy wrote:
Too small of a sample size? The average career length is 6 years for an NBA player.. If they don't prove them self within the first 2 they usually leave the league.. especially wings, who are a dime a dozen.

Okay, so should we give him another year or two, right? Why is that so hard?

Bargnani 2.0?

Mr.Raptorsingh is suggesting you at least give Ross until the end of his rookie contract, and you're equating that to Bargnani?

TheGoodDoctor · Post #120 » by **TheGoodDoctor** » Thu Aug 22, 2013 8:54 pm

Pound the rock aka Casey's thick skull.