Stein/KOC - Heat most interested in Kyle, 76ers/clippers also interested

[AkelaLoneWolf]

You think Miami would do this?

Olynyk + Iggy + Herro for Lowry + Thomas + Watson

Then, we'd waive Iggy and he could potentially return to Miami...

i'd rather keep iggy for our playoff run.

And worsen our pick? Why would we want to do that?

even if we're tanking, iggy has value as a veteran presence.

[Rapsfan07]

i'd rather keep iggy for our playoff run.

And worsen our pick? Why would we want to do that?

even if we're tanking, iggy has value as a veteran presence.

Not me he doesn't but that's fine if you think so.

[gerrit4]

And worsen our pick? Why would we want to do that?

even if we're tanking, iggy has value as a veteran presence.

Not me he doesn't but that's fine if you think so.

It's not like Iggy would sulk and not report to a non-playoff team right? Has that happened in the past 15 months?

I guess it is possible we could get a second round pick from a team like the Lakers/Clippers etc who want the depth, but he'd likely just be a waived guy.

[Saul Goodman]

Philly just has the best mix of assets to offer.


Maxey
Green
Scott
Ferguson
2021 1st
2025 top 15 protected


for


Kyle Lowry
Matt Thomas

[Saul Goodman]

if you can get Tyler Herro you take that and RUN.


Lowry
Jalen Harris


for

Olnyk
Mo Harkless
Avery Bradley
Tyler Herro



FVV/Herro/OG/Siakam/2021 1st (top 10) is a wicked core for the future. Herro would thrive greatly under Nurse.

[MessiahUjiri]

I don’t think Miami sends us Herro. And I’m perfectly okay with that.

A much more realistic and still good option would be to target Nunn and Precious. Arguably, that package can be better in the longer term.

Nunn seems like a 15ppg guy, vs Herro seems like a 20 ppg guy. Precious Achiuwa is basically a young Tristan Thompson that can guard 1-5.

To me, Herros overhyped trade value seems like an opportunity to extract value in other ways. Getting Olynyk and Dragic with the above 2 guys would be a phenomenal return for a Lowry/Stanley/Davis deal.

[pr0gr4m]

I don't want any win now pieces. Future picks from Miami would be best. We hurt the Bucks this way and gain assets for a Giannis trade.

[Raptorfan2012]

Picks from Miami and Philly are going to suck; they will be late first rounders. Rather have their young prospects that have a bit of nba development already.

[Raptors Realtor]

I don't want any win now pieces. Future picks from Miami would be best. We hurt the Bucks this way and gain assets for a Giannis trade.

That's crazy talk... you'd rather have bottom-5 1st round crapshoot(s) as the centrepiece of a deal, instead of young tangible assets?

[isyed]

Add another future pick and a pick swap and we are good to go.

I don’t think Miami sends us Herro. And I’m perfectly okay with that.

A much more realistic and still good option would be to target Nunn and Precious. Arguably, that package can be better in the longer term.

Nunn seems like a 15ppg guy, vs Herro seems like a 20 ppg guy. Precious Achiuwa is basically a young Tristan Thompson that can guard 1-5.

To me, Herros overhyped trade value seems like an opportunity to extract value in other ways. Getting Olynyk and Dragic with the above 2 guys would be a phenomenal return for a Lowry/Stanley/Davis deal.

Sent from my SM-G975U1 using RealGM mobile app

[pr0gr4m]

I don't want any win now pieces. Future picks from Miami would be best. We hurt the Bucks this way and gain assets for a Giannis trade.

That's crazy talk... you'd rather have bottom-5 1st round crapshoot(s) as the centrepiece of a deal, instead of young tangible assets?

I'd rather let them keep Herro and ruin their defense.

The drafts are going to be deeper with high school eligibility in the future.

Nunn, Herro, and the other prospects aren't that good. I rather get picks. Picks generally always have high value

[Rapsfan07]

I don’t think Miami sends us Herro. And I’m perfectly okay with that.

A much more realistic and still good option would be to target Nunn and Precious. Arguably, that package can be better in the longer term.

Nunn seems like a 15ppg guy, vs Herro seems like a 20 ppg guy. Precious Achiuwa is basically a young Tristan Thompson that can guard 1-5.

To me, Herros overhyped trade value seems like an opportunity to extract value in other ways. Getting Olynyk and Dragic with the above 2 guys would be a phenomenal return for a Lowry/Stanley/Davis deal.

But this is what I'm saying - I'd just up the ante.

Lowry, Powell, TDII for Dragic, Olynyk, Herro & Precious

Adding Nunn tilts the deal slightly in the favour of Toronto and I'm not sure how balance it out again without sending more value to Miami in the form of salary. We are not trading our our 2021 pick and I'm not sure we should be trading any future firsts unless they are heavily, heavily protected. It might be a while we're in the lottery after all, who knows?

Also, I have to imagine Miami objects as they will be very thin at the PG position. Maybe Miami adds a pair of seconds or something? I don't know.

I don't want any win now pieces. Future picks from Miami would be best. We hurt the Bucks this way and gain assets for a Giannis trade.

That's crazy talk... you'd rather have bottom 5 1st round crapshoot(s) as the centrepiece of a deal, instead of young tangible assets?

Yeah it makes no sense. The Heat can't deal picks until 2025 and I'm not waiting that long for picks to convey. I'd rather have young, proven players on cheap controllable contracts.

[Raptorfan2012]

I don't want any win now pieces. Future picks from Miami would be best. We hurt the Bucks this way and gain assets for a Giannis trade.

That's crazy talk... you'd rather have bottom-5 1st round crapshoot(s) as the centrepiece of a deal, instead of young tangible assets?

I'd rather let them keep Herro and ruin their defense.

The drafts are going to be deeper with high school eligibility in the future.

Nunn, Herro, and the other prospects aren't that good. I rather get picks. Picks generally always have high value

Herro is actually a pretty good shot creator; something this team has been severely lacking. Its rare to find shot creators at the bottom of the draft; good role players sure.

[mtcan]

That's crazy talk... you'd rather have bottom-5 1st round crapshoot(s) as the centrepiece of a deal, instead of young tangible assets?

I'd rather let them keep Herro and ruin their defense.

The drafts are going to be deeper with high school eligibility in the future.

Nunn, Herro, and the other prospects aren't that good. I rather get picks. Picks generally always have high value

Herro is actually a pretty good shot creator; something this team has been severely lacking. Its rare to find shot creators at the bottom of the draft; good role players sure.

Yup...Herro's got big shot maker potential.

[DelAbbot]

Great night - Heat lost to the Pacers and Herro went 4-16 and 0-7 from three. I hope Riley panics and pulls the trigger on Herro + fillers for Lowry

[pr0gr4m]

Herro has garbage defense. Scoring isn't hard to find anymore.

[DelAbbot]

Herro has garbage defense. Scoring isn't hard to find anymore.

2020/2021 season:

Norm Powell
EPM DEF = -0.9
RAPTOR DEF = -1.8

Tyler Herro
EPM DEF = -0.8
RAPTOR DEF = -0.3

https://dunksandthrees.com/epm
https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/nba-player-ratings/

homers being homers.

[RapsFanInOhio]

does anyone know what the heat's FA space will be in the offseason. trading for lowry prob takes them out of the dipo sweepstakes.

Not necessarily I don’t think, but it makes it more difficult for certain.

They have cap space in the summer though and it becomes more of a reality at that point.

[mtcan]

does anyone know what the heat's FA space will be in the offseason. trading for lowry prob takes them out of the dipo sweepstakes.

Not necessarily I don’t think, but it makes it more difficult for certain.

They have cap space in the summer though and it becomes more of a reality at that point.

They would have Lowry's bird rights...so it is theoretically possible to sign Oladipo with cap space and go over the cap using Lowry's bird rights...so in that regard...the Heat absolutely have an incentive to obtain him now.

[AkelaLoneWolf]

does anyone know what the heat's FA space will be in the offseason. trading for lowry prob takes them out of the dipo sweepstakes.

Not necessarily I don’t think, but it makes it more difficult for certain.

They have cap space in the summer though and it becomes more of a reality at that point.

They would have Lowry's bird rights...so it is theoretically possible to sign Oladipo with cap space and go over the cap using Lowry's bird rights...so in that regard...the Heat absolutely have an incentive to obtain him now.

yeah lowry's bird rights $30M worth would take up most if not all of the capspace. the only way to sign dipo would be to renounce lowry or sign him a very small contract in FA asap to open up that space.
which is why i like lowry to miami. it takes away a FA option for dipo.