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Re: Trade Deadline Rumours & Discussion Thread II 

Post#1001 » by Tor_Raps » Thu Feb 2, 2023 1:13 am

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OakleyDokely wrote:Precious + Koloko at C >>>>>>>> maxed out Ayton


Ya because they've solidified our Center position, which isnt our worst position on the court BY FAR or anything lol. I like Precious and maybe Koloko becomes relevant in the nba one day but relying on a dude who is G League material at the moment is foolish.

This was like saying we didn't need Fred during the Bench mob because we had Delon and Lowry ahead of him. Stockpile talent and let their play dictate what happens.


You cant stockpile maxed out players. There's only room for 2 or 3 of those guys and in the famous words of Scottie B, Ayton ain't him.

If Ayton was making old VV money (almost nothing), it would be a different argument but he doesn't, he already makes star money and he's not close to a star.


Ya but if we trade Fred and OG then who the heck is left to pay on our team? It's gonna be siakam and Barnes left on a rookie deal.

While I wish Ayton paid like 10M less per year, it's not outside the question of him getting motivated on a new team to starting earning that max deal.

I just don't see a lot of options for us if we are trying to get talent back in these trades. If we're only getting future picks 6 years out then might as well trade Siakam too and do a full tear down.
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Post#1002 » by Smalltown » Thu Feb 2, 2023 1:20 am

Tor_Raps wrote:if we trade Fred and OG then who the heck is left to pay on our team? It's gonna be siakam and Barnes left on a rookie deal.

While I wish Ayton paid like 10M less per year, it's not outside the question of him getting motivated on a new team to starting earning that max deal


This is how i feel. Moving off of 2 of OG, Fred or Gary frees up a lot of cap flexibility. Plus trying to recycle or dump Birch, Thad and OPJ salaries.

There's room for 3 years of a bad(ish) salary on the team. Especially with the cap set to explode. That last year of Ayton might not end up looking all that bad.
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Post#1003 » by Rodrickle » Thu Feb 2, 2023 1:34 am

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Yeezus_ wrote:Unless your center is a superstar like Embiid or Jokic, you should not be allocating $40m+ a year on a center


This should hold true to any player for any position and I'm pretty sure

Ayton is making 35M. Fred will be looking to make that much on his next contract. OG will be looking to make 30M on his... it's a crazy world lol.
Ayton is making $32 this year. Overpaid for sure. But he is a solid center that is clearly dogging it this year and seems to have issues with Paul (Not unheard of) and Monty (legitimate concern since he seems like a very personable player coach). Not sure if Nurse would blow a gasket coaching Ayton either, but maybe he would pull a Vince and start really trying after getting traded. He was a great playoff performer aside from that game 7.

He's one of those players that clearly doesnt give it his all if hes not happy where he's at. That press conference where they announced his max contract he didnt seem happy at all.

Also similar situation was Wiggins before Golden state, although I think Wiggins wasn't as hot headed. But Wiggins really improved with some good leadership and they ultimately won a title, even though he was overpaid and previously had a lazy unfocused reputation

I'd take the risk if the trade involved VV or Trent. Not sure about OG though.



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Post#1004 » by Harcore Fenton Mun » Thu Feb 2, 2023 1:44 am

Keep an eye on that Knicks game tomorrow, see if RJ plays.
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Post#1005 » by dgr81 » Thu Feb 2, 2023 1:45 am

what is bobby texting?

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Post#1006 » by Son Goku 25 » Thu Feb 2, 2023 1:59 am

dgr81 wrote:what is bobby texting?

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Following up on his janitor working at MLSE thread probably
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Post#1007 » by Tor_Raps » Thu Feb 2, 2023 2:01 am

dgr81 wrote:what is bobby texting?

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Is he still using a blackberry or something? That could be a reason why we've been slow to address a lot of glaring holes... our management just needs better tools lol
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Post#1008 » by Son Goku 25 » Thu Feb 2, 2023 2:07 am

Is Bobby hiding his burner phone at the bottom
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Post#1009 » by tanuki1031 » Thu Feb 2, 2023 2:12 am

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dgr81 wrote:what is bobby texting?

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Is he still using a blackberry or something? That could be a reason why we've been slow to address a lot of glaring holes... our management just needs better tools lol


Masai and Bobby's phones have been ringing non-stop with China robo-calls.
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Post#1010 » by WuTang_CMB » Thu Feb 2, 2023 2:26 am

Lol nice janitor story
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Post#1011 » by LegendOfSalmons » Thu Feb 2, 2023 4:49 am

WuTang_OG wrote:Lol nice janitor story
We should listen closely to him. Maytricks Championship confirmed the Shawn Marion trade to Toronto weeks in advance. MLSE executive custodian is the new mythical source we need.

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Post#1012 » by WuTang_CMB » Thu Feb 2, 2023 4:51 am

Update. Clutch loss

16 games until trade deadline including last night vs Charlotte. I guessed our record. I will update after each game.

(17-23)

Jan 10 - Charlotte - W (18-23)
Jan 12 - Charlotte - W (19-23)
Jan 14 - Atlanta - W .... Loss (19-24)
Jan 16 - @ NY - L .... Win (20-24)
Jan 17 - @ Milwaukee - L (20-25)
Jan 19 - @ Minnesota - L (20-26)
Jan 21 - Boston - L (20-27)
Jan 22 - NY - W (21-27)
Jan 25 - @ Sacramento - L ... Win (22-27)
Jan 27 - @ G.S. - L (22-28)
Jan 28 - @ Portland - L …. Win (23-28)
Jan 30 - @ Phoenix - L (23-29)
Feb 1 - @ Utah - W …. Loss (23-30)

Feb 3 - @ Houston - W
Feb 5 - @ Memphis - L
Feb 8 - San Antonio - W

Feb 9 = Trade Deadline.

7-9 record as per above (24-32). But lets say we get 2 extra wins and go 9-7 instead, we would be (26-30).

To put things in perspective on Feb 9 of last year (deadline was Feb 10), our record was 30-23.
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Post#1013 » by SurgeIblocka » Thu Feb 2, 2023 4:59 am

WuTang_OG wrote:Update. Clutch loss

16 games until trade deadline including last night vs Charlotte. I guessed our record. I will update after each game.

(17-23)

Jan 10 - Charlotte - W (18-23)
Jan 12 - Charlotte - W (19-23)
Jan 14 - Atlanta - W .... Loss (19-24)
Jan 16 - @ NY - L .... Win (20-24)
Jan 17 - @ Milwaukee - L (20-25)
Jan 19 - @ Minnesota - L (20-26)
Jan 21 - Boston - L (20-27)
Jan 22 - NY - W (21-27)
Jan 25 - @ Sacramento - L ... Win (22-27)
Jan 27 - @ G.S. - L (22-28)
Jan 28 - @ Portland - L …. Win (23-28)
Jan 30 - @ Phoenix - L (23-29)
Feb 1 - @ Utah - W …. Loss (23-30)

Feb 3 - @ Houston - W
Feb 5 - @ Memphis - L
Feb 8 - San Antonio - W

Feb 9 = Trade Deadline.

7-9 record as per above (24-32). But lets say we get 2 extra wins and go 9-7 instead, we would be (26-30).

To put things in perspective on Feb 9 of last year (deadline was Feb 10), our record was 30-23.



Imagine if we lost the NY , Portland and Sacramento games. We would be primed for a top 3 pick
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Post#1014 » by WaltFrazier » Thu Feb 2, 2023 7:35 am

FWIW in the Finals with the Bucks, the Suns won all the minutes that Ayton played. Read that awhile back, I think I have it right
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Post#1015 » by greekman » Thu Feb 2, 2023 8:51 am

could cade cunningham be available ? jalen green, suggs,
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Post#1016 » by DatHomieYouHaTe » Thu Feb 2, 2023 12:19 pm

greekman wrote:could cade cunningham be available ? jalen green, suggs,


We want good players though. Better off just drafting someone better. Those guys shooting percentages are a big yikes
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Post#1017 » by ItsDanger » Thu Feb 2, 2023 12:27 pm

dgr81 wrote:what is bobby texting?

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Its a basketball reference link:

https://www.basketball-reference.com/players/k/kesslwa01.html

Damn, that dude was good tonight, why didn't we see the glaring hole at centre? This switching fetish is causing problems
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Post#1018 » by Duffman100 » Thu Feb 2, 2023 1:21 pm

ItsDanger wrote:
dgr81 wrote:what is bobby texting?

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Its a basketball reference link:

https://www.basketball-reference.com/players/k/kesslwa01.html

Damn, that dude was good tonight, why didn't we see the glaring hole at centre? This switching fetish is causing problems


You're in 3-4 different threads talking about Kessler. If you mentioned Kessler predraft, I'd like to see it. Because I did a quick search on your poster history and I don't see it. Either way, it's spamming right now with 20/20 hindsight.
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Post#1019 » by ItsDanger » Thu Feb 2, 2023 1:26 pm

Duffman100 wrote:
ItsDanger wrote:
dgr81 wrote:what is bobby texting?

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Its a basketball reference link:

https://www.basketball-reference.com/players/k/kesslwa01.html

Damn, that dude was good tonight, why didn't we see the glaring hole at centre? This switching fetish is causing problems


You're in 3-4 different threads talking about Kessler. If you mentioned Kessler predraft, I'd like to see it. Because I did a quick search on your poster history and I don't see it. Either way, it's spamming right now with 20/20 hindsight.

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"Take a scorer or a C. Will be options at 31. Even a Walker Kessler could still be available there. You're just not in the driver's seat anymore."

I was hoping maybe he'd fall. At #20, we'd be in the driver seat picking direction.

Hardly spamming. Trades and draft decisions are important points in a franchise.

Spamming would be constantly denying reality that it was a mistake. And an obvious one.
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Re: Trade Deadline Rumours & Discussion Thread II 

Post#1020 » by Duffman100 » Thu Feb 2, 2023 1:29 pm

ItsDanger wrote:
Duffman100 wrote:
ItsDanger wrote:Its a basketball reference link:

https://www.basketball-reference.com/players/k/kesslwa01.html

Damn, that dude was good tonight, why didn't we see the glaring hole at centre? This switching fetish is causing problems


You're in 3-4 different threads talking about Kessler. If you mentioned Kessler predraft, I'd like to see it. Because I did a quick search on your poster history and I don't see it. Either way, it's spamming right now with 20/20 hindsight.

viewtopic.php?p=96816429#p96816429

"Take a scorer or a C. Will be options at 31. Even a Walker Kessler could still be available there. You're just not in the driver's seat anymore."

I was hoping maybe he'd fall. At #20, we'd be in the driver seat picking direction.

Hardly spamming. Trades and draft decisions are important points in a franchise.

Spamming would be constantly denying reality that it was a mistake. And an obvious one.


So you've mentioned him once over a year ago and now patting yourself on the back because you knew he was going to be a no doubt prospect that was going to deliver these results? It turns out 21 other teams passed on him as well. **** man, you should be in an NBA front office.

And yes it is spamming. Everyone and their mother has heard how much you love Walker Kessler and have always touted his amazing skillset (once). Enough of it, you're spamming the board. Unofficial warning.

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