Trade Deadline Discussion & Rumours - Raptors and NBA

SFour · Post #1121 » by **SFour** » Tue Feb 8, 2022 6:30 pm

PrinceAli wrote:HOLY FK

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wow they got 2 Jermey Lambs....Raptors def don't want to play them :lol:

Bruin · Post #1122 » by **Bruin** » Tue Feb 8, 2022 6:30 pm

I didn’t think the Kings would actually move Hali. Damn

WuTang_CMB · Post #1123 » by **WuTang_CMB** » Tue Feb 8, 2022 6:30 pm

LOL wtf is Sacramento doing

Post #1124 » by **Duffman100** » Tue Feb 8, 2022 6:30 pm

PrinceAli wrote:HOLY FK

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They were able to clone Jeremy Lamb? That's incredible

Madhouse · Post #1125 » by **Madhouse** » Tue Feb 8, 2022 6:30 pm

PrinceAli wrote:HOLY FK

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LOL

mtcan · Post #1126 » by **mtcan** » Tue Feb 8, 2022 6:31 pm

PrinceAli wrote:HOLY FK

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Wow.

Bruin · Post #1127 » by **Bruin** » Tue Feb 8, 2022 6:31 pm

SFour wrote:
PrinceAli wrote:HOLY FK

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wow they got 2 Jermey Lambs....Raptors def don't want to play them

Shams got Woj tripping lmao. Tryna beat him with speed and he’s full of typos today

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ontnut · Post #1128 » by **ontnut** » Tue Feb 8, 2022 6:31 pm

Supermann98 wrote:
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Is Daryl Morey that internal reliable source? Seriously, how is that guy not facing any tampering charges with his shameful public recruitment of Harden

Who else is after Harden? Who will file the David Griffin complaint? lol.

Also, I really don't want this deal to happen until the offseason. It improves both teams (and I need Raps to finish 1st in the atlantic lmao).

LBJKB24MJ23 · Post #1129 » by **LBJKB24MJ23** » Tue Feb 8, 2022 6:32 pm

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damn i thought Haliburton was untradeable. :lol:

TheBoi10 · Post #1130 » by **TheBoi10** » Tue Feb 8, 2022 6:32 pm

Time to strike on Turner is now, Indy fire sale

WuTang_CMB · Post #1131 » by **WuTang_CMB** » Tue Feb 8, 2022 6:32 pm

Madhouse wrote:
WuTang_OG wrote:Willing to take on longer term deals

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Unlikely to include first round pick.

Most likely get a bench guard or wing back for Dragic on Thursday.

ya this is great news. Too risky to give up FRP right now

ontnut · Post #1132 » by **ontnut** » Tue Feb 8, 2022 6:32 pm

mtcan wrote:
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Wow.

Oh sh*t. That's pretty big. Can't believe they gave up Haliburton....
Sacramento gonna Sacramento. Jesus.

Madhouse · Post #1133 » by **Madhouse** » Tue Feb 8, 2022 6:32 pm

PrinceAli wrote:I didn’t think the Kings would actually move Hali. Damn

lets fleece them for Mitchell

PhilBlackson · Post #1134 » by **PhilBlackson** » Tue Feb 8, 2022 6:32 pm

Bobby mentioned 3 key things...

1. Willingness to take on more "long term" salary
2. Wanted to have a clear medical picture of any player we're looking into
3. Wants to give the player time to really get a feel of what the team and organization are all about

That all sounded like we're looking long & hard at Myles Turner right now to me

Supermann98 · Post #1135 » by **Supermann98** » Tue Feb 8, 2022 6:32 pm

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now THAT is what I call a Woj bomb

srhcan · Post #1136 » by **srhcan** » Tue Feb 8, 2022 6:33 pm

ontnut wrote:
srhcan wrote:
ash_k wrote:that's right, his defense is too limited.

Are we talking about same Nurkic who is among top NBA players defensively? His defensive rating is better than any current player on Raptors.

DRTG is tough. It focuses too much on counting stats and can be skewed incorrectly.
The formula is: Defensive Player Rating = (Players Steals*Blocks) + Opponents Differential= 1/5 of possessions - Times blown by + Deflections * OAPDW( Official Adjusted Players Defensive Withstand).

Nurkic's differential is +0.9% meaning opponents shoot better against him. Harden is 0.3%. GTJ is a surprising +8.9%! FVV is 1.2%
Examples: Gobert -5.4%, Mobley -4.8%, OG -2.2%, Siakam -1.2.%, Barnes -0.4%.

Defensive stats are hard to quantify because so much of it is not countable. Good positioning that leads to players giving up the ball isn't really counted anywhere, nor are stats that show a player was so well defended he couldn't even GET the ball. But those are some of the most important aspects of defense, as opposed to counted stats like steals, or stats like opponent differential which can be biased based on how that offensive player is playing that day.

Going by DRTG alone, you'd be forced to say that Harden at 110 is a better defender than OG at 111, Fred at 111, and as good as Siakam at 110. Boucher at 107 is our best defender.

Steph Curry has a 100.9 DRTG. Draymond has a 101.5. You'd be trying to convince me that Steph is a better defender than Draymond. LOL.

I was talking about defensive RAPTOR. Nurkic's score of +3.0 ranks him 18th. Toronto's best players are Fred and Achiwa, their score of +2.0 ranks them 42nd.

https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/nba-player-ratings/

pingpongrac · Post #1137 » by **pingpongrac** » Tue Feb 8, 2022 6:33 pm

What are the Kings doing lol

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MavCarter · Post #1138 » by **MavCarter** » Tue Feb 8, 2022 6:33 pm

We arent getting turner for dragic and a first lol

Sandman88 · Post #1139 » by **Sandman88** » Tue Feb 8, 2022 6:33 pm

Fireworks are going off and we’re not even on deadline day

SFour · Post #1140 » by **SFour** » Tue Feb 8, 2022 6:33 pm

TheBoi10 wrote:Time to strike on Turner is now, Indy fire sale

have to.....how many years have the Raptors FO been chasing after Turner....this is the perfect time