Marc Stein: Toronto has expressed interest in Ben Simmons

[phanman]

He's a free agent but, unless Philly finds a team who is taking Simmons into their cap space (won't happen) they don't really have many other options for both trading Simmons and signing Lowry. The only other way would be to send~20-25mill in contacts to Toronto in exchange, and why does Toronto do that?

OKC can easily absorb Simmons for the price of a FRP, they do have options if they are just looking to unload him.

Lowry could also just opt to sign for the MLE. I know Lowry has aspirations of getting 20m, but do you realistically see any team out there that is willing to give a 35yo PG that much money even with his production? He gives up money to go home and play on a championship contender with an MVP candidate.

OKC doesn't seem like a team that would want to pay a FRP to absorb Simmons. I could be wrong though.

But Lowry accepting a taxpayer MLE (ie approx 6 million/year) to play for Philly is absolutely not going to happen. He's not giving up $15million/year for a chance at a second ring.

OKC is talent starved and have million FRPs, I think they do that deal in a heartbeat. They've got to pay someone to hit the salary floor An SGA, Dort and Simmons core is a solid foundation to rebuild with.

I'd agree the MLE is super low but if there's one destination that fills all other boxes its Philly. Outside of them there aren't many teams that need PG to get over the hump and would be willing to satisfy his salary demands. Dallas and Miami are the only other two teams that he fits but its still paying a 35yo Lowry to pair with a 25yo Doncic or 32yo Butler/24yo Bam who still have to pay Duncan.

[Kingsway_fan]

Hard pass please. Don't want. Don't need.

[C_Money]

Ben Simmons sucks and the 76ers know it. The only teams that should be wanting him are teams that are desperate like the Wolves and Kings.

[DangerZone13]

It would be interesting to see us run Simmons at the 5, OG at the 4 with VV, our #4, and GTJ. Get out and run!

It's much more likely feeling out a multi-team scenario, rather than specific interest in Simmons. But of course Philly would spin this to boost offers. Should be a very interesting off-season, folks!

[Pooh_Jeter]

I'm not sure how anyone can seriously think that Lowry in a S&T even gets you in a conversation with the 76ers about Simmons. The opportunity to deal him there was at the deadline and now the 76ers are clearly looking at better options.

[FreshyFlames]

Pascal and picks for Simmions

Resign Lowry and and draft Green at 4

We good.


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Green not there at 4

[ontnut]

I'm not sure how anyone can seriously think that Lowry in a S&T even gets you in a conversation with the 76ers about Simmons. The opportunity to deal him there was at the deadline and now the 76ers are clearly looking at better options.

They're obviously going to be asking for the #4 as well, and probably would look to flip that again for immediate help.
I think the Raps will (and should) balk at dealing the #4.

[ciueli]

If we’re moving Lowry to Philly, Simmons is coming back to us and not a third team if they’re willing to move Simmons in that deal.

This is really unlikely because we would be adding over $30M per year in salary which almost certainly puts us into the tax if we want to retain Gary Trent Jr.

[islandboy53]

Interesting point actually. If a team is offering picks/prospects for Simmons, that may not go over well with Embiid or Philly fans who have already been through the process. There may be something we could get out of it if there's someone they want from TO.

The Raptors could very well get involved in a multi-team trade involving Lowry, who Philly wants, and Simmons, who Phlly wants to move on from if the price is right. For example, knowing Sacramento has expressed interest, this deal works dollar-wise.

Philly acquires Lowry from TO (s&t at $24M x 2) and Barnes from the Kings. Sacramento acquires Simmons from Philly. Toronto acquires Bagley from the Kings and Hill from Philly. Picks and/or some other pieces might be required, but generally all 3 teams could be happy with a deal like this.

You can flush that down the toilet. Bagley is hot garbage and Hill is beyond useless.

Consider it flushed. Try this instead. Philly still gets Lowry and Barnes. The Kings get Simmons and Hill. Raptors get Holmes (s&t at $20M x 4) and a future pick (or maybe Delon Wright) from Sacramento.

[TheRealDeal]

This is going to be a fun offseason

[traps#10]

I think the Warriors would be interested in acquiring Simmons. Picks, Draymond and parts?

[tdotrep2]

I think the Warriors would be interested in acquiring Simmons. Picks, Draymond and parts?

draymond is an older simmons lol it does nothing for them to move the needle. they need a point guard who can shoot and run the offense.

[brownbobcat]

I'm not sure how anyone can seriously think that Lowry in a S&T even gets you in a conversation with the 76ers about Simmons. The opportunity to deal him there was at the deadline and now the 76ers are clearly looking at better options.

The opportunity was there for both sides - 76ers wasted a season for a 28th pick and a guy who scored 2 points in a Game 7 loss.

[TD2FutureStar]

Ewww no thanks

[Mahoner]

I feel like Simmons is best suited with a team that has too much offense to make up for his deficiencies. So my guess is like Golden State will end up trading for him (assuming they have the cap space room for him). Raps could use him if they did a 3 man frontcourt of Siakam/OG/Simmons with 2 guards of FVV/GTJr-#4 Pick. I would like them risk it but I'll understand why they won't

[Indeed]

He's a free agent but, unless Philly finds a team who is taking Simmons into their cap space (won't happen) they don't really have many other options for both trading Simmons and signing Lowry. The only other way would be to send~20-25mill in contacts to Toronto in exchange, and why does Toronto do that?

OKC can easily absorb Simmons for the price of a FRP, they do have options if they are just looking to unload him.

Lowry could also just opt to sign for the MLE. I know Lowry has aspirations of getting 20m, but do you realistically see any team out there that is willing to give a 35yo PG that much money even with his production? He gives up money to go home and play on a championship contender with an MVP candidate.

OKC doesn't seem like a team that would want to pay a FRP to absorb Simmons. I could be wrong though.

But Lowry accepting a taxpayer MLE (ie approx 6 million/year) to play for Philly is absolutely not going to happen. He's not giving up $15million/year for a chance at a second ring.

If Lowry cares about money, he can go to the Knicks or other teams.

I think you mistaken "Trade" & Sign which does not exist. It is called "Sign" and Trade, meaning the FA decides if he needs the previous team to help with a trade, and if the asking price is too much, then the FA can look for other solutions.

We do not have control where Lowry wants to go and if he wants to do a Sign & Trade. Lowry may not even need a Sign & Trade to begin with.

[TD2FutureStar]

I feel like Simmons is best suited with a team that has too much offense to make up for his deficiencies. So my guess is like Golden State will end up trading for him (assuming they have the cap space room for him). Raps could use him if they did a 3 man frontcourt of Siakam/OG/Simmons with 2 guards of FVV/GTJr-#4 Pick. I would like them risk it but I'll understand why they won't

Warriors would need a 3 team trade because none of their assets help Philly. Perhaps it makes sense to do the Wiseman+Wiggins+7+14 deal with Siakam going to Philly and Simmons to Warriors.

[Indeed]

I'm not sure how anyone can seriously think that Lowry in a S&T even gets you in a conversation with the 76ers about Simmons. The opportunity to deal him there was at the deadline and now the 76ers are clearly looking at better options.

They're obviously going to be asking for the #4 as well, and probably would look to flip that again for immediate help.
I think the Raps will (and should) balk at dealing the #4.

The point is, we are NOT trading Lowry, it is Lowry Signing a team. Lowry does not need us, but rather than us losing him for nothing, we need him.

[brownbobcat]

I feel like Simmons is best suited with a team that has too much offense to make up for his deficiencies. So my guess is like Golden State will end up trading for him (assuming they have the cap space room for him). Raps could use him if they did a 3 man frontcourt of Siakam/OG/Simmons with 2 guards of FVV/GTJr-#4 Pick. I would like them risk it but I'll understand why they won't

Warriors would need a 3 team trade because none of their assets help Philly. Perhaps it makes sense to do the Wiseman+Wiggins+7+14 deal with Siakam going to Philly and Simmons to Warriors.

That makes more sense, but if I were GSW, Siakam's a better fit - why do you want 2 playmaking bigs that struggle from the perimeter?

[Parataxis]

OKC can easily absorb Simmons for the price of a FRP, they do have options if they are just looking to unload him.

Lowry could also just opt to sign for the MLE. I know Lowry has aspirations of getting 20m, but do you realistically see any team out there that is willing to give a 35yo PG that much money even with his production? He gives up money to go home and play on a championship contender with an MVP candidate.

OKC doesn't seem like a team that would want to pay a FRP to absorb Simmons. I could be wrong though.

But Lowry accepting a taxpayer MLE (ie approx 6 million/year) to play for Philly is absolutely not going to happen. He's not giving up $15million/year for a chance at a second ring.

If Lowry cares about money, he can go to the Knicks or other teams.

I think you mistaken "Trade" & Sign which does not exist. It is called "Sign" and Trade, meaning the FA decides if he needs the previous team to help with a trade, and if the asking price is too much, then the FA can look for other solutions.

We do not have control where Lowry wants to go and if he wants to do a Sign & Trade. Lowry may not even need a Sign & Trade to begin with.

Nobody is confused. These are all working on the assumption that Lowry wants to go to Philly, Philly wants Lowry, and that they can work out a agreed upon salary. :