Trae to wizards for CJ

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This is so sad, but true.

I keep belaboring this point here, but a huge reason why Bridges had added value - still far overvalued for an "all star" caliber player - was his perceived bargain contract for multiple years. This allowed any team the flexibility to work below the tax or add additional talent. The contracts matter almost as much as the players

You could easily make a case to me now that Deni Avdija has a lot more trade value than even an MVP in Giannis solely because he's got 2 more years on a bargain contract like Bridges did.

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For the people saying Atlanta traded Trae for nothing that isn't the case. Dallas wants picks and expirings for AD which Atlanta now has. They probably could have got better value pound for pound but the trade was a means to an end that most likely puts AD in Atlanta before the deadline.

If that is their end game they should've made it a multi team trade. Why take the risk.

They may be left with mccollum and kispert. Also AD may want to be extended at max before he sets foot on the court.

Maybe they're still negotiating with Dallas who is looking for the highest bid and are okay with being left with cj and kispert if a deal for AD doesn't materialize like they hope. We're assuming they could have done better for trae we don't actually know that for sure tho. More teams have been saying they're not interested in trae than teams have been saying they are. The market might not be what you think it is.

All that to say they moved forward toward their goal of acquiring AD and are closer than they were yesterday so it wasn't a trade for nothing.

I think that may just be it. They were probably afraid Washington could do something else and they're stuck with Trae till summer.

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I don't think there's a market for guys like Trae Young and LaMelo Ball, and this trade with Washington demonstrates that. These type of guards make a lot of money and don't really play winning basketball

I totally understand why Atlanta made this trade, they get out of this Trae contract, and choose a clear direction. But I'm going to be honest, I don't really understand what the Wizards are thinking with this one. I assume CJ was going to leave this summer, so they essentially Kispert for Young, pretty good value. But re-signing Trae Young at $40+ million per season for 4 years would be the most Washington type of decision

It sounds like they plan to pull an Ingram and hold Trae out for a while as they tank to protect their top 8 pick. CJ was actually winning them too many games. Plus if Trae looks as bad as he did for the Hawks, he might not win them much more if he does play, and they could have the worst defense in the league.

Moving forward they have less salary than the salary floor, so they can easily fit a $50ish million player. The top of this draft has more big wings and forwards who can play off a PG like Trae. And if he takes his body and game seriously again and contributes to winning next year, they’ll finally get a look at their recent picks in competitive roles. They probably don’t want to be bottom feeders for too many consecutive years.

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I don't think there's a market for guys like Trae Young and LaMelo Ball, and this trade with Washington demonstrates that. These type of guards make a lot of money and don't really play winning basketball

I totally understand why Atlanta made this trade, they get out of this Trae contract, and choose a clear direction. But I'm going to be honest, I don't really understand what the Wizards are thinking with this one. I assume CJ was going to leave this summer, so they essentially Kispert for Young, pretty good value. But re-signing Trae Young at $40+ million per season for 4 years would be the most Washington type of decision

It sounds like they plan to pull an Ingram and hold Trae out for a while as they tank to protect their top 8 pick. CJ was actually winning them too many games. Plus if Trae looks as bad as he did for the Hawks, he might not win them much more if he does play, and they could have the worst defense in the league.

Moving forward they have less salary than the salary floor, so they can easily fit a $50ish million player. The top of this draft has more big wings and forwards who can play off a PG like Trae. And if he takes his body and game seriously again and contributes to winning next year, they’ll finally get a look at their recent picks in competitive roles. They probably don’t want to be bottom feeders for too many consecutive years.

They can afford him, no doubt, I just mostly think a Trae Young / Tre Johnson backcourt is going really struggle defensively

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Man, I could have sworn there was a poster who told me incessantly that Trae Young would pick up his option and look for an extension at $50m minimum. My suggestion and opinion that the player option could get turned down with a salary around $40m was laughed at and told that it would not happen.

On the Washington side, sources tell DallasHoopsJournal.com that the Wizards have interest in a three-year framework, with compensation potentially in the $120 million range. There is an openness on both sides to explore a longer-term partnership after Young’s representation worked with the Wizards’ front office to land him at a preferred destination.

We will have to see what happens, as this is only the team’s leak after all.

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Are the Wiz really gonna max out Trae? Have the learnt nothing from Jordan Poole?

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Free ride to another top pick. We'll see what they do with it.

They've picked top-10 in each of the past 7 seasons. That started with Rui Hachimura, then Deni Avdija, Corey Kispert, Johnny Davis, Jarace Walker, Alex Sarr and Tre Johnson.


Bit early to evaluate Tre, being a 19yo rookie, but he can at least shoot. Sarr has made some big strides compared to his first season. Long way to go, but he's also only 20. If he keeps trending up like this, his third season is going to be pretty nice. Especially alongside a playmaker like Trae Young. The rest of those guys are gone (Kispert, of course, to acquire Young).

The draft has not exactly been Washington's friend of late. You have to go back to 2012 to find a pick which really landed for them. 2011 to 2018, they drafted Jan Vesely, Bradley Beal, Otto Porter, no one in the first round in 2014, the 2015 pick was Jerian Grant (but that was traded away, like the Jarace Walker pick), and Troy Brown.

Ooof.

The upcoming draft class is supposed to be pretty good, but who knows what will happen with the flattened odds and their luck?

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Free ride to another top pick. We'll see what they do with it.

They've picked top-10 in each of the past 7 seasons. That started with Rui Hachimura, then Deni Avdija, Corey Kispert, Johnny Davis, Jarace Walker, Alex Sarr and Tre Johnson.


Bit early to evaluate Tre, being a 19yo rookie, but he can at least shoot. Sarr has made some big strides compared to his first season. Long way to go, but he's also only 20. If he keeps trending up like this, his third season is going to be pretty nice. Especially alongside a playmaker like Trae Young. The rest of those guys are gone (Kispert, of course, to acquire Young).

The draft has not exactly been Washington's friend of late. You have to go back to 2012 to find a pick which really landed for them. 2011 to 2018, they drafted Jan Vesely, Bradley Beal, Otto Porter, no one in the first round in 2014, the 2015 pick was Jerian Grant (but that was traded away, like the Jarace Walker pick), and Troy Brown.

Ooof.

The upcoming draft class is supposed to be pretty good, but who knows what will happen with the flattened odds and their luck?

Always thought they liked international prospects with Vesely, Rui, Deni, and Sarr.

But yes, they've definitely had their share of misses with Troy brown, Kispert, Johnny Davis, Vesely, and Rui to an extent.

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Always thought they liked international prospects with Vesely, Rui, Deni, and Sarr.

But yes, they've definitely had their share of misses with Troy brown, Kispert, Johnny Davis, Vesely, and Rui to an extent.

Avdija hit, they just needed to stick with him. He was a 15/7/4 guy who had discovered the 3 and was scoring above league average efficiency when they moved him for Brogdon and Carrington. I guess they also get Portland's 2029 FRP, but that appears to have backfired as far as relevance is concerned.

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Smart move.

I really like that young Washington team. They have been soo bad for so long, but they seem to be in a decent place now. I am sure after they tank this season, they will try to accelerate things.

Good use of their older expiring assets.

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He wasn’t traded for CJ. He was traded for Kispert and getting off $49m next season.

CJ to Trae is as BI to Bruce

Agreed, although CJ is playing well and can help the Hawks this season or perhaps be involved in a bigger deal like AD.

CJ can’t be aggregated with other salary once the deal is official. Definitely a chance that Dallas gets roped in before official though, but doesn’t sound like it.

Ah I see, I didn't realize that. I saw the other trade proposals with KP though and CJ seems to help them this season anyway. I don't know what ATL's rush is. I'd keep Zacch R and keep building. Use that juicy NOP's pick this season and keep adding. Get some grit to cover up for JJ hehe. Maybe bring CJ back on a team friendly deal. Unlike many on here I actually like them getting Kispert. I hope he makes the Wizards look dumb again like with Deni.

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Interesting