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Post#141 » by Tor_Raps » Wed Jul 2, 2025 1:00 am

ESPN coverage is horrible man. Most of the people they show on TV know nothing and have 0 personality. I hope NBC/Amazon does a better job covering the sport.
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Post#142 » by WuTang_CMB » Wed Jul 2, 2025 1:05 am

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Post#143 » by DG88 » Wed Jul 2, 2025 1:06 am

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Post#145 » by Tripod » Wed Jul 2, 2025 1:06 am

UnbelievablyRAW wrote:Kinda bad no one is outperforming their contract. You can argue everyone is either playing near the level of their pay or their are overpaid.

That IQ contract is pretty bad unless he breaks out into a clear Maxey level star (doubt it)

That makes no sense.

Maxey's contract pays him an average of 40 mill per year, IQ 32.5. Maxey is getting paid more because he is better.
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Post#149 » by deeps6x » Wed Jul 2, 2025 1:16 am

Trade RJ to Utah for Collins and one of their 2027 FRPs
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Post#150 » by CazOnReal » Wed Jul 2, 2025 1:22 am

deeps6x wrote:Trade RJ to Utah for Collins and one of their 2027 FRPs

This would have to be the 2nd worst of their 2027 1sts since the Suns own the worst of the 3.
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Post#152 » by Tor_Raps » Wed Jul 2, 2025 1:25 am

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deeps6x wrote:Trade RJ to Utah for Collins and one of their 2027 FRPs

This would have to be the 2nd worst of their 2027 1sts since the Suns own the worst of the 3.


Why would a tanking give up a draft pick to take on a longer deal. You should check what they've done with Sexton/Clarkson lol.

Before proposing any trade, always think "does it benefit both sides." Helps save everyone a read :)
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Post#153 » by Pointgod » Wed Jul 2, 2025 1:25 am

deeps6x wrote:Trade RJ to Utah for Collins and one of their 2027 FRPs


lol. Utah takes on more salary and gives up a pick why for a lateral move? They got rid of their ball dominant guards for a reason and they’re going to ass another? Then again Ainge traded a better player and pick for a worse player. You might be on to something
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Post#154 » by Tor_Raps » Wed Jul 2, 2025 1:26 am

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Post#155 » by Raptorfan2012 » Wed Jul 2, 2025 1:26 am

deeps6x wrote:Trade RJ to Utah for Collins and one of their 2027 FRPs


We don’t have a need for Collins esp since CMB and Mogbo are gonna need mins at the PF position.
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Post#156 » by LBJKB24MJ23 » Wed Jul 2, 2025 1:32 am

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Post#157 » by WuTang_CMB » Wed Jul 2, 2025 1:35 am

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Post#158 » by Tor_Raps » Wed Jul 2, 2025 1:39 am

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Spoken from someone only looking at it from the Lakers perspective. Missi is the Pelicans starting Center and they dont have anyone ready to fill that hole if hes traded but it is Dumars so who the F knows lol
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Post#159 » by Pointgod » Wed Jul 2, 2025 1:45 am

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deeps6x wrote:Trade RJ to Utah for Collins and one of their 2027 FRPs

This would have to be the 2nd worst of their 2027 1sts since the Suns own the worst of the 3.


Why would a tanking give up a draft pick to take on a longer deal. You should check what they've done with Sexton/Clarkson lol.

Before proposing any trade, always think "does it benefit both sides." Helps save everyone a read :)


Or at least ask does the team that’s not the Raptors get completely bent over in the trade
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Post#160 » by UnbelievablyRAW » Wed Jul 2, 2025 1:51 am

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UnbelievablyRAW wrote:Kinda bad no one is outperforming their contract. You can argue everyone is either playing near the level of their pay or their are overpaid.

That IQ contract is pretty bad unless he breaks out into a clear Maxey level star (doubt it)

That makes no sense.

Maxey's contract pays him an average of 40 mill per year, IQ 32.5. Maxey is getting paid more because he is better.


In the context of players outperforming their contract, if IQ was able to be a clear star level guard like Maxey, he would be an outperformer.

If he were making $40m, him playing like Maxey would be more of an expectation than a hope. Another example is I expect BI to be an all star level offensive wing given how much we’ve invested. Anything less is a disappointment, but him outperforming that and turning into Tatum or something would make him outperform what we’re paying him.

Makes it tough to move our guys when the time comes when none of them are on value contracts even if you like the player. Don’t really see winning teams that don’t at least have a Derrick White, or Wiggins, or Nembhard, or Caruso etc on the roster that is way more impactful than what they’re being paid
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