2023 Draft Discussion Part 8 (No Spoilers Please)

[C_Money]

Hmm interesting to see who's left for UDFA's

We usually sign one.

[grant101]

Spurs taking Sidy with our pick is so poetic

Not even the biggest Sidy fan, but the casual throw-in of 2nd rounders in strong drafts was the worst part of the poeltl deal. Oof!

[grant101]

Hmm interesting to see who's left for UDFA's

We usually sign one.

Jaylen Clark, Taevion Kinsey, Craig Porter Jr or D'moi Hodge pls!

[C_Money]

Spurs taking Sidy with our pick is so poetic

Just watch all the idiots that hated on him flip flop when the Spurs make a player out of him.

Bro you wanted him at 13

[Syd-TK3]

Spurs taking Sidy with our pick is so poetic

Just watch all the idiots that hated on him flip flop when the Spurs make a player out of him.

He clearly was a reach at 13 but that late and on the Spurs I'd be shocked if he doesn't atleast result in some sorta positive value

[rarefind]

We are so willing to trade our picks but never able to trade for any.

[Bruin]

I’d sign Jaylen Clark to some sort of deal through his rehab. He’s a good player if he recovers properly

He could be back around Feb/March and can play G League and then Summer league

Could be a steal if he rehabs properly

[Snowwy]

Tell that to Denver

I respect many of your opinions about prospects, but not this one. Can never just look at one example and run your team based on that. If we just look at one example, why keep any draft pick, I mean there are all stars and hall of famers that were undrafted free agents.

So there are multiple examples in history of 2nd rounders becoming productive players. They don’t need to be a star like a Jokic, Gasol, or a Draymond.

They can become role players and that’s not valueless

I do think you missed the word practically. Sure, the odd one will hit. As the draft is now in the 40s, here is the number to hit with the team that drafted them in the past few years. For the more recent years, I lowered the standards for a hit since it hasn't been too long yet.

2020: None
2019: Terrance Mann
2018: None
2017: Monte Morris
2016: Georges Niang
2015: Pat Connaughton, Norm Powell, Josh Richardson
2014: Jordan Clarkson, Nikola Jokic

[srhcan]

If only f*cking Choking P & his agent didn't nuke his trade value a hour before the draft.

For all the great things we have done for Siakam, this is how he repaid us? F him

[Bruin]

GG damn

[changes]

Sources are telling me the undrafted guy we sign could have easily gone in the first round.

[bboyskinnylegs]

and there goes GG

[Bruin]

I respect many of your opinions about prospects, but not this one. Can never just look at one example and run your team based on that. If we just look at one example, why keep any draft pick, I mean there are all stars and hall of famers that were undrafted free agents.

So there are multiple examples in history of 2nd rounders becoming productive players. They don’t need to be a star like a Jokic, Gasol, or a Draymond.

They can become role players and that’s not valueless

I do think you missed the word practically. Sure, the odd one will hit. As the draft is now in the 40s, here is the number to hit with the team that drafted them in the past few years. For the more recent years, I lowered the standards for a hit since it hasn't been too long yet.

2020: None
2019: Terrance Mann
2018: None
2017: Monte Morris
2016: Georges Niang
2015: Pat Connaughton, Norm Powell, Josh Richardson
2014: Jordan Clarkson, Nikola Jokic

So they’re not valueless. Even a 10% chance of a pick being a contributor means they have value

[grant101]

If only f*cking Choking P & his agent didn't nuke his trade value a hour before the draft.

For all the great things we have done for Siakam, this is how he repaid us? F him

This is silly. He's about to be a free agent and wants to be here

[Syd-TK3]

Lol GG around Memphis and JA is the worst possible destination

[Dalek]

Still can't believe Sidy went in the 40s. GG at 45. This is a wild draft. Late picks can be gold.

[REJECTEDBYCLARK]

Memphis doubling down on great character, love to see it

[ItsDanger]

Melton, Vanderbilt, Bruce Brown were taken in 40s in 2018, valuable role players.

[DG88]

GG Jackson got picked by Memphis. Not sure that's the right team for him with all their maturity problems.

[Snowwy]

So there are multiple examples in history of 2nd rounders becoming productive players. They don’t need to be a star like a Jokic, Gasol, or a Draymond.

They can become role players and that’s not valueless

I do think you missed the word practically. Sure, the odd one will hit. As the draft is now in the 40s, here is the number to hit with the team that drafted them in the past few years. For the more recent years, I lowered the standards for a hit since it hasn't been too long yet.

2020: None
2019: Terrance Mann
2018: None
2017: Monte Morris
2016: Georges Niang
2015: Pat Connaughton, Norm Powell, Josh Richardson
2014: Jordan Clarkson, Nikola Jokic

So they’re not valueless. Even a 10% chance of a pick being a contributor means they have value

I think you are struggling with the math a bit, and again, I respect your contributions, but that is a 4% chance, which is practically valueless. 4% vs 10% is quite a significant difference. Anyway, moving on, who are you remaining guys?