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Re: State of the Union. Team Canada Basketball. (FIBA Americas Aug.31-Sep.15) 

Post#1861 » by vi3t » Sun Aug 23, 2015 11:00 pm

mojo13 wrote:Anyone see KOs injury? Look bad? Any update?

I thought he just banged knees or something then on the replay it looked like he get hit in the groin but he ended up holding his knees, anyways he stayed on the bench and looked fine
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Post#1862 » by moemoe2423 » Sun Aug 23, 2015 11:04 pm

vi3t wrote:
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vi3t wrote:Scola has looked pretty bad


Are you dumb?

lol just lol at this guy, maybe you should watch the entire game instead of the last five minutes, Scola was having a bad game by his standards up to the point when I made the post, it was Nocioni who got Argentina back into the game when Scola went to the bench but ballboy's gonna ballboy


Actually I was watching the entire game. Scola started off almost perfect in Field goals and 2/2 from the 3 point line. And started the game with 11 points in 5 minutes. Maybe next time, instead of judging a players entire performance based on a 5 minute span and saying "has looked pretty bad", you should evaluate his play for the entirety of the game.

"Having a bad game by his standards".
That means nothing to me, unless you are secretly Scola, and know what his standards are at the age of 35.

His standard now, is averaging 8 points and 5 rebounds in the NBA for the past 2 years.
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Post#1863 » by jonny three time » Sun Aug 23, 2015 11:09 pm

For those who watched, did Ejim, Bennett or Powell play any SF?

If Doornekamp is the last cut it would be good to know who they're looking at to backup Wiggins.
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Post#1864 » by vi3t » Sun Aug 23, 2015 11:24 pm

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vi3t wrote:
moemoe2423 wrote:
Are you dumb?

lol just lol at this guy, maybe you should watch the entire game instead of the last five minutes, Scola was having a bad game by his standards up to the point when I made the post, it was Nocioni who got Argentina back into the game when Scola went to the bench but ballboy's gonna ballboy


Actually I was watching the entire game. Scola started off almost perfect in Field goals and 2/2 from the 3 point line. And started the game with 11 points in 5 minutes. Maybe next time, instead of judging a players entire performance based on a 5 minute span and saying "has looked pretty bad", you should evaluate his play for the entirety of the game.

"Having a bad game by his standards".
That means nothing to me, unless you are secretly Scola, and know what his standards are at the age of 35.

His standard now, is averaging 8 points and 5 rebounds in the NBA for the past 2 years.

lets see, you thanked sisibilio for posting a streaming link, at that point it was already the second quarter, so it was unlikely that you had a stream otherwise you wouldn't had thank him, therefore you did not watch the entire game

Scola's game isn't depended on athleticism so his age isn't going to be a big factor, he averaged 20 and 9 in last year's world championships so did he played below his standards? Sure but it wasn't just his stats, his defense looked bad, had a bunch of careless passes, bricking freethrows etc.
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Post#1865 » by SharoneWright » Sun Aug 23, 2015 11:27 pm

jonny three time wrote:For those who watched, did Ejim, Bennett or Powell play any SF?

If Doornekamp is the last cut it would be good to know who they're looking at to backup Wiggins.


Best remaining options would be Ejim and Bennett, unless I'm missing someone. Might have to roll with Stauskas for spot minutes. Could have plugged and played with Trey Lyles, but...
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Post#1866 » by ash_k » Sun Aug 23, 2015 11:30 pm

what the Heck was Scrubb doing playing against Argentina??
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Post#1867 » by jonny three time » Sun Aug 23, 2015 11:34 pm

SharoneWright wrote:
jonny three time wrote:For those who watched, did Ejim, Bennett or Powell play any SF?

If Doornekamp is the last cut it would be good to know who they're looking at to backup Wiggins.


Best remaining options would be Ejim and Bennett, unless I'm missing someone. Might have to roll with Stauskas for spot minutes. Could have plugged and played with Trey Lyles, but...


I know it would come down to them, I was just wondering if either actually played SF in this game and how they looked doing it.

Relying on Stauskas and the other guards to backup the 3 would be a terrible idea and would lead to wiggins being overplayed in games where our guards can't hang with their SFs. It comes down to the power forwards getting it done and it would be nice to see before just believing they can.
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Post#1868 » by SharoneWright » Sun Aug 23, 2015 11:37 pm

jonny three time wrote: I know it would come down to them, I was just wondering if either actually played SF in this game and how they looked doing it.

Relying on Stauskas and the other guards to backup the 3 would be a terrible idea and would lead to wiggins being overplayed in games where our guards can't hang with their SFs. It comes down to the power forwards getting it done and it would be nice to see before just believing they can.

I know you know, and I agree on Stauskas. Someone somewhere has suggested minutes for Nik at the 3, which is unacceptable.

Considering the group we took, there really needs to be a commitment to Ejim at the SF spot. I didn't watch the whole game, but didn't see Ejim play anything other than PF. It's too bad.
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Post#1869 » by moemoe2423 » Sun Aug 23, 2015 11:42 pm

vi3t wrote:
moemoe2423 wrote:
vi3t wrote:lol just lol at this guy, maybe you should watch the entire game instead of the last five minutes, Scola was having a bad game by his standards up to the point when I made the post, it was Nocioni who got Argentina back into the game when Scola went to the bench but ballboy's gonna ballboy


Actually I was watching the entire game. Scola started off almost perfect in Field goals and 2/2 from the 3 point line. And started the game with 11 points in 5 minutes. Maybe next time, instead of judging a players entire performance based on a 5 minute span and saying "has looked pretty bad", you should evaluate his play for the entirety of the game.

"Having a bad game by his standards".
That means nothing to me, unless you are secretly Scola, and know what his standards are at the age of 35.

His standard now, is averaging 8 points and 5 rebounds in the NBA for the past 2 years.

lets see, you thanked sisibilio for posting a streaming link, at that point it was already the second quarter, so it was unlikely that you had a stream otherwise you wouldn't had thank him, therefore you did not watch the entire game

Scola's game isn't depended on athleticism so his age isn't going to be a big factor, he averaged 20 and 9 in last year's world championships so did he played below his standards? Sure but it wasn't just his stats, his defense looked bad, had a bunch of careless passes, bricking freethrows etc.


Actually I paid for the live basketball subscription before hand. And was streaming it. I was thanking him for sharing a link with realgm so everyone could watch. Nevertheless. What does that have to do with anything. That does not take away from the facts I've stated.

Again. It's funny that you're defending yourself so badly. No one on these forums except you believes scola played bad. And then you tried twisting your comment after someone called you out on it.

Your first comment was illogical. That's like saying lebron has played bad because of some bad plays he had during a certain stretch, but has 20 5 and 5 in the 3rd quarter. I don't know if you realize this, but usually in sports, you don't judge a players entire game for a stretch where he missed a shot or turned it over.

He had 23 and 8 this game...

It's okay if you can't admit your wrong,

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Post#1870 » by Patman » Sun Aug 23, 2015 11:58 pm

MixxSRC wrote:
Patman wrote:How did CoJo do?


He didn't play.


Okay, thanks.
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Post#1871 » by vi3t » Mon Aug 24, 2015 12:30 am

moemoe2423 wrote:Actually I paid for the live basketball subscription before hand. And was streaming it. I was thanking him for sharing a link with realgm so everyone could watch. Nevertheless. What does that have to do with anything. That does not take away from the facts I've stated.

Again. It's funny that you're defending yourself so badly. No one on these forums except you believes scola played bad. And then you tried twisting your comment after someone called you out on it.

Your first comment was illogical. That's like saying lebron has played bad because of some bad plays he had during a certain stretch, but has 20 5 and 5 in the 3rd quarter. I don't know if you realize this, but usually in sports, you don't judge a players entire game for a stretch where he missed a shot or turned it over.

He had 23 and 8 this game...

It's okay if you can't admit your wrong,

Cheers to you.

Right I'm suppose to believe you had a paid live stream, that a couple of other posters here also had and claimed it wasn't working

What don't you understand, I made the post at around halftime or so when Scola was playing below par so my judgement was up to that point not the entire freaking game, he had a bunch of bad stretches, are you going to deny that? And I evaluate someone's game more than how many shots he has made, something you can't seem to fathom, you on the other hand, decided to wait till the game concluded when Scola finished strong to make your post.

For some reason, you were so butt hurt that I said Scola was playing bad that you replied back with an immature response, we're not all 12 here but if you're going to call someone dumb on this forum then expect a strong reaction but good talking to you mate.
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Post#1872 » by Halftime Show » Mon Aug 24, 2015 12:44 am

Guys who I would say impressed me are

Wiggins- settled for jump shots, which is OK in a friendly, but he looked comfortable and his length and athleticism is too much for guys on this level.

Bennett- just seems like the perfect 4 for FIBA ball. He's not undersized in these games, rebounds like a man possessed and his perimeter skills fit the game perfectly.

Powell- Really versatile with his size and skill in the frontcourt, should be huge for the depth on this team.

Hanlan - Shot the ball well, didn't try to do too much and I know I'm saying this for everyone, but his size and athleticism just gives him an advantage at this level.

The not so much guys

Nicholson- Dumb fouls/shots. When he's on he can be a killer in FIBA ball, but he also hurts the team when he's out of control, today was a bit more of the bad.

Stauskas- I'm a huge Nik fan but he just looked bad today. Bad passes and drives, looked invisible for stretches and reminded me alot of Carl English and not in a good way.

Scrubb- There was good and bad with him today, didnt shoot well but moved the ball well and played OK on d. His familiarity with the coaches/system combined with our lack of options at guard are the only reasons he's here. I doubt we see him if all the guards are available going forward.

Doornekamp - Same deal as Scrubb, isn't necessarily bad for the team, but we can probably bring much more talented players than him going forward.


Overall a good game against a solid opponent though. I'm hoping that being able to withstand that late run is a huge boost for them.
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Post#1873 » by Mikestro » Mon Aug 24, 2015 12:58 am

Is there anywhere to catch a recap or replay of the game online?
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Post#1874 » by moemoe2423 » Mon Aug 24, 2015 1:02 am

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Post#1875 » by vi3t » Mon Aug 24, 2015 1:39 am

moemoe2423 wrote:First of all, your post was in the 3rd quarter, and to be quiet honest, Scola at that point was playing better than most players on the Canadian team. Including wiggins. You just cannot fathom how your lack of basketball knowledge and basketball review has been actually pointed out.

LOL you think I purposely waited until the end to comment on your post? How sad is it that one would think that. After the game concluded, I came to this thread and read your comment, and laughed out loud when i read your comment because of how idiotic it sounded. Again, you were the only one on these forums who believed in such a fairy tale that scola played bad. Even if it was up to that point. Because it wasn't true.

Me butt hurt? hahahahhahahahahahhahahhahhhaha.

Butt hurt about what? you think i care? Like i said, I just had to respond to such an idiotic post.

You're the one who was sooooo butt hurt you got called out, you had to reply back with a comeback that a 12 year old would have made..

What is also funny is, when i completely falsified your arguments with facts, you ignore them. But i guess the planet where your from, Scola played bad or not up to his "standards"...

bahahahahahhahahaaaaaaaaaa

Lol at you pretending your jimmies weren't rustled, were you not the one who started this? You obviously felt strongly about my comment that you felt the need to call someone dumb, it's OK man, maybe if I changed my post to "Scola has looked pretty bad in the last couple of sequence" would you be satisfied? And yea I was watching the Jays game simultaneously so I may have missed some parts, doubt it tho.

You could've have easily responded with something other than "are you dumb," it shows your immaturity, it's like when Lebron called Charles stupid for criticizing him
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Post#1876 » by mojo13 » Mon Aug 24, 2015 3:27 am

Can you all talk this bitchfest offline or shut it down? We'd Rather you not screw up a perfectly decent thread almost a 100 pages deep with the first Internet rage session.
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Post#1877 » by vi3t » Mon Aug 24, 2015 3:35 am

lol it's over
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Post#1878 » by vi3t » Mon Aug 24, 2015 4:18 am

Halftime Show wrote:Stauskas- I'm a huge Nik fan but he just looked bad today. Bad passes and drives, looked invisible for stretches and reminded me alot of Carl English and not in a good way.

Nik just doesn't looked like has a lot of confidence at this point, especially after that rookie season, he had a bit of a swagger at Michigan so hopefully he regains some of it, he did make that clutch three but he also had that embarrassing turnover when he tried to pass it to Powell in the back court
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Post#1879 » by frumble » Mon Aug 24, 2015 4:54 am

SharoneWright wrote:
Considering the group we took, there really needs to be a commitment to Ejim at the SF spot. I didn't watch the whole game, but didn't see Ejim play anything other than PF. It's too bad.


Yeah, from what I could tell from FIBA live stats, it was only Wiggins and Doornekamp at SF.

If they rest Wiggins for one of the remaining three Marchand games, will Doornekamp play all 40 minutes?

Seriously, at this point I think it is clear (if it wasn't already), that Triano and the rest of the staff do not see Ejim as a 3. He is in competition with Powell for the 5th big spot (with some chance they both make it at the expense of Sacre).

Doornekamp's spot on the roster is a given.
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Post#1880 » by rottenzombie » Mon Aug 24, 2015 6:27 am

I did not even realize the tournament is already so close.

Looks like it will be a challenge for Wiggins to mash with his teammates.
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