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BoyzNTheHood wrote:djsunyc wrote:is kon knipple similar to corey kispert?
Kispert is is basically a standstill shooter. Kon is more of a creator.
“When you go into these things, just everything that comes out at you — hey, this is luck. It's a lottery,” said Ujiri just off the stage in a ballroom turned into a TV set. “It can go every way. You put yourself in position to think every single way. But before it happens, most of it is you hope … you just hope that you get it (the No.1 pick). I'm one of those people, people that when these kind of things come, I've just been through so much, there's no high or low. I know exactly how to feel."
Which is, on to the next: “Honestly, it doesn't (change anything). We have all our picks going forward. I think we continue this rebuild and grow as a team. And honestly, I'm as optimistic as I was earlier,” Ujiri said.
“You hope and pray that you, you get a No. 1 or No. 2 or you jump. (But) if there's one thing I'm confident about, it's us picking in the draft. I'm very, very confident. This draft is a good draft. From three to about 12, it's who you like or how you like it. So we'll figure out how we like it and how to manoeuvre.”
According to ESPN.com’s post-lottery mock draft, Duke centre Khaman Maluach and forward Kon Knueppel, South Carolina big man Colin Murray-Boyles, Illinois guard Kasparas Jakucionis and Maryland big man Derik Queen are players slotted 7-11, or in the neighbourhood that the Raptors will be picking.
WuTang_OG wrote:“When you go into these things, just everything that comes out at you — hey, this is luck. It's a lottery,” said Ujiri just off the stage in a ballroom turned into a TV set. “It can go every way. You put yourself in position to think every single way. But before it happens, most of it is you hope … you just hope that you get it (the No.1 pick). I'm one of those people, people that when these kind of things come, I've just been through so much, there's no high or low. I know exactly how to feel."
Which is, on to the next: “Honestly, it doesn't (change anything). We have all our picks going forward. I think we continue this rebuild and grow as a team. And honestly, I'm as optimistic as I was earlier,” Ujiri said.
“You hope and pray that you, you get a No. 1 or No. 2 or you jump. (But) if there's one thing I'm confident about, it's us picking in the draft. I'm very, very confident. This draft is a good draft. From three to about 12, it's who you like or how you like it. So we'll figure out how we like it and how to manoeuvre.”
According to ESPN.com’s post-lottery mock draft, Duke centre Khaman Maluach and forward Kon Knueppel, South Carolina big man Colin Murray-Boyles, Illinois guard Kasparas Jakucionis and Maryland big man Derik Queen are players slotted 7-11, or in the neighbourhood that the Raptors will be picking.
MEDIC wrote:BoyzNTheHood wrote:djsunyc wrote:is kon knipple similar to corey kispert?
Kispert is is basically a standstill shooter. Kon is more of a creator.
Yeah. He should be a lot more dynamic than Kispert. He can handle.a little. He can create a little & he is an excellent passer.
djsunyc wrote:MEDIC wrote:BoyzNTheHood wrote: Kispert is is basically a standstill shooter. Kon is more of a creator.
Yeah. He should be a lot more dynamic than Kispert. He can handle.a little. He can create a little & he is an excellent passer.
his physical profile scares the crap outta me. what's his true ceiling? 6th man of the year?
S.W.A.N wrote:djsunyc wrote:MEDIC wrote:
Yeah. He should be a lot more dynamic than Kispert. He can handle.a little. He can create a little & he is an excellent passer.
his physical profile scares the crap outta me. what's his true ceiling? 6th man of the year?
Really good 3rd option. But he's probably got a really high floor.
Kon is the boring safe pick. He'll be good but I don't see a star player outcome
Clutch0z24 wrote:bballsparkin wrote:Okay, that was an impressive answer by CMB. My interest has raised. Just worried about the shooting.
I'm surprised how many are down on Kon. He seems like one of the few sure fire bets in the top 10 to me. I get the overlap and fears of him defensively. He's smart and strong though. I haven't watched much Jak. Guess I should start.
How does interviews/Draft combine change anyones interest or disinterest in a player? All this stuff means nothing at the end of the day....All that mattes is the production on the court...
ForeverTFC wrote:AkelaLoneWolf wrote:WuTang_OG wrote:
makes sense. why wouldn't you want to have a cost controlled asset for 8 years in a small market team.
3 reasons:
1. On average, the lottery pick is at their peak value before they play a single NBA game
2. A realistic chance to trade for one of the best 5 players in the league rarely comes along
3. When you are close to or inside a contention window, you maximize it
Indeed wrote:RoteSchroder wrote:I kind of want to avoid Queen and Fears
I am lower on Queen, but Fears seem to measured well with being a good shooter, so what exactly is the issue with Fears?
SpezNc wrote:Clutch0z24 wrote:bballsparkin wrote:Okay, that was an impressive answer by CMB. My interest has raised. Just worried about the shooting.
I'm surprised how many are down on Kon. He seems like one of the few sure fire bets in the top 10 to me. I get the overlap and fears of him defensively. He's smart and strong though. I haven't watched much Jak. Guess I should start.
How does interviews/Draft combine change anyones interest or disinterest in a player? All this stuff means nothing at the end of the day....All that mattes is the production on the court...
Could be wrong but I think you are reading too much into his comment.
I mean we listen to good interviews and knowing he could be an option it can raise our interest to know more about him and what he can do on the court
I don’t he meant that just because of that answer that he is now at the top of his board or that Masai/Bobby going to be influenced by his interview.
But as a fan knowing he was interviewed and how good his answer on the Raptors was , yeah sure I will probably looks to some video this evening. I am curious to know more.
Do that means that he jump into my top5 options at 9? Not at all.
Yallbecrazy wrote:Indeed wrote:nowayguy wrote:CMB is much better at self-creation.
Edit: and better defensively
He has zero perimeter creation, not even 3 point shooting.
We have discussed this long time ago, he is not going to create like he was in college in the post.
He has an explosive first step and a good handle so he does have a really good face up game. He is also an elite passer out of the short roll in the screen game. He will create a ton out of that in the NBA. Have him set a screen and give him the ball on the short roll he can now find a cutter, blow by a big with his face up game or punish a smaller guy.
He routinely blew by centres in college by facing them up.
Clutch0z24 wrote:bballsparkin wrote:Clutch0z24 wrote:
How does interviews/Draft combine change anyones interest or disinterest in a player? All this stuff means nothing at the end of the day....All that mattes is the production on the court...
Most of this class seem to have good kids in it....No head cases....CMB does not fit the roster at all even if he was the greatest person in the world....It does not make much sense from a basketball perspective drafting him unless you are making significant changes to the roster....Can't shoot and is undersized for his style of play....Thats been notoriously bad....Kidd Gil, Winslow come to mind....Hes a good defensive player but can he really guard a Jokic down low only being 6"6? Can he guard any bigger PFs? Is he a wing?....2 many questions...
Aaron Gordon type player potential? Let's face it this is Canada. When an American young man like that answers informatively like he did in regards to Toronto's team I am impressed. To me it shows a sense of maturity. Also, CMB is the kind of player I'd love to have on the team if he can shoot. Or rather, the potential to become a player who can shoot. I know that's a scary sounding sentence that we've heard before so I understand the reluctance. If the belief that he can not be expected to improve his shot significantly than I agree. I mean we're still waiting for Scottie to develop a shot so I get it.
I don't really have any favourite in this draft. Cooper obviously. Harper. I think VJ is a safe bet. Kon. I'd be fine if the FO think KM is the guy. Lots of options.
Would love if he could add any kind of offensive game and a shot but its unlikely....And at 9th imagine tanking a whole year and your one crack at a top pick you walk away with a defensive minded undersized non shooting big who can't play with Barnes or Yak because the court spacing would be horrendous....If we had a roster like the Warriors CMB would make more sense....CMB needs to be surrounded by elite shooters and a 7+ foot C who can space the floor and rim protect to succeed his absolute peak...
RoteSchroder wrote:Indeed wrote:RoteSchroder wrote:I kind of want to avoid Queen and Fears
I am lower on Queen, but Fears seem to measured well with being a good shooter, so what exactly is the issue with Fears?
Queen I was always kind of lower on because I generally want C's to be defensive anchors, unless they're franchise level on offense. Not that he'll fail in the NBA, it's just I project him more to be a back-up big.
I do like Fears, a positive comparison might be like De'Aaron Fox, but in terms of risk/benefit, I think there are a lot better options at #9.
Fears hasn't shown good shooting on the court yet, his combine shooting numbers are ok, about average (under average for sideline 3, 7/27), but for smaller guards you need to be able to get your shot off quick and accurate in game, which may be tough to achieve. I think it's a bit of a risk to expect him to successfully develop that part of his game. He also needs to add a bit of strength/weight. Drafting a lightweight guard that has yet to prove to be efficient on the court scares me in general.
nowayguy wrote:CMB would be a hilarious pick for the reactions from RealGM. Then the fans from other teams would inevitably chime in, reality would hit, and it would be a lot less funny.
If Masai and co. really thought he was BPA, there's a chance they pick him regardless of fit.
Clutch0z24 wrote:
Would love if he could add any kind of offensive game and a shot but its unlikely....And at 9th imagine tanking a whole year and your one crack at a top pick you walk away with a defensive minded undersized non shooting big who can't play with Barnes or Yak because the court spacing would be horrendous....If we had a roster like the Warriors CMB would make more sense....CMB needs to be surrounded by elite shooters and a 7+ foot C who can space the floor and rim protect to succeed his absolute peak...
