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Boogie! · Post #361 » by **Boogie!** » Tue Nov 16, 2021 3:29 am

Yeezus_ wrote:
HumbleRen wrote:Barnes plays 6 straight minutes with no shots or even a look from FVV to help him score.

Birch comes in for 30 seconds and FVV immediately runs a pick n roll for Birch.

lol.

Barnes isn’t that great of a screen setter yet.

Barnes is a wing... he doesn't have the build of a screen setter nor should he be relegated to screener on pnr. He should be handler on pnr. Waste of his talent to be a bruising pf.

aminiaturebuddha · Post #362 » by **aminiaturebuddha** » Tue Nov 16, 2021 3:29 am

Birch is such a smart team-first player. Just does a lot of little things well. Like making quick passes so the defence doesn't have time to reset, or re-positioning himself by a few feet on offence to make those pick-and-roll passes easier for the ballhandler. Just great, very subtle high b-ball IQ plays.

bape_lovers · Post #363 » by **bape_lovers** » Tue Nov 16, 2021 3:29 am

Pretty much the same when JV was on the team

pingpongrac wrote:Lmao. We're lighting up the Blazers and all everyone can talk about is how we're phasing out Barnes.

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WaltFrazier · Post #364 » by **WaltFrazier** » Tue Nov 16, 2021 3:29 am

KO7 wrote:
ruckus wrote:
Boogie! wrote:Now this is the passing we need more often is Portland that bad defensively because I haven't seen such a smooth possession all season

Portland's D seems pretty bad.

Chauncey was supposed to fix that

Stotts doesn't look so bad now

VC15Era · Post #365 » by **VC15Era** » Tue Nov 16, 2021 3:29 am

Sad reality glad we are winning but wish I could see the team use Barnes properly.. I'm torn

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execoftheyear · Post #366 » by **execoftheyear** » Tue Nov 16, 2021 3:29 am

night and day with Freddie back...he makes everything work

stanch sabonis · Post #367 » by **stanch sabonis** » Tue Nov 16, 2021 3:29 am

Scottie is going to go from leading roty to out the top 3. Cade is getting hot now. IT is what it is lolol

EFF3KT · Post #368 » by **EFF3KT** » Tue Nov 16, 2021 3:29 am

This is the best ball movement I've seen from this squad all year. Looking good!

will · Post #369 » by **will** » Tue Nov 16, 2021 3:29 am

sCOTTIE j!

MonkBatter42 · Post #370 » by **MonkBatter42** » Tue Nov 16, 2021 3:29 am

There you go Scottie! That midrange is open all day!!

Yeezus_ · Post #371 » by **Yeezus_** » Tue Nov 16, 2021 3:30 am

HumbleRen wrote:
Yeezus_ wrote:
HumbleRen wrote:Barnes plays 6 straight minutes with no shots or even a look from FVV to help him score.

Birch comes in for 30 seconds and FVV immediately runs a pick n roll for Birch.

lol.

Barnes isn’t that great of a screen setter yet.

So why does FVV run way PNR's with Precious lol. Barnes is a better screen setter than Precious.

No he’s not? Precious is pretty good at setting screens. I guess its subjective though.

Post #372 » by **Reeko** » Tue Nov 16, 2021 3:30 am

JN wrote:
Reeko wrote:It's hard to watch Barnes being relegated to a glorified garbageman right now.

I just posted something on the Barnes thread.
Many rookies don't get rushed into a high usage role for a full long 80 game season. No point having them make too many mistakes early on -- let them focus on the good. It's a long season -- I would be disappointed if we don't feature him heavily for his development in the second half of the season, but not necessarily too upset about it right now. Still would like him a tad more involved but OG/Siakam/FVV have some chemistry at least tonight.

I understand what you're saying, but we've already seen what he can do with a pretty high usage and it was damn impressive. If he looked overwhelmed then I would be very comfortable giving him a diminished role, but he was balling outta control.

JN · Post #373 » by JN » Tue Nov 16, 2021 3:30 am

C.Boshly wrote:
WuTang_OG wrote:Anyone else cheese barnes is now the 5th option and cuz hes so unselfish, just passes everything

It sucks I love seeing Scottie get a bunch of shots/touches as much as anyone. At this stage of his career rather he’d earn all his touches not be force feed over more polished players.

No need to run him into the ground either. Let him grow naturally

Agreed.

The question to ask is this:
1. Is force feeding him early on the best for him and the team? Or is the best for the fans who are looking for something to hang onto right now in what will likely be a mediocre season.

BHF · Post #374 » by **BHF** » Tue Nov 16, 2021 3:30 am

SFour wrote:I'm not worried about Barnes scoring....you have OG and Siakam going off, just keep feeding them...Barnes will get his turn eventually

I think most people are having the problem with him not even touching the ball or being involved in the offense at all.

Knucknbuc · Post #375 » by **Knucknbuc** » Tue Nov 16, 2021 3:30 am

Lol what do you know the same ppl in here bitching up a storm

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EFF3KT · Post #376 » by **EFF3KT** » Tue Nov 16, 2021 3:30 am

Scottie's midrange is key to his success. That's money all day.

will · Post #377 » by **will** » Tue Nov 16, 2021 3:31 am

WaltFrazier wrote:
KO7 wrote:
ruckus wrote:
Portland's D seems pretty bad.

Chauncey was supposed to fix that

Stotts doesn't look so bad now

NO one can find a way to make Nurkic and Dame work.

It's absolutely criminal how much they ignore Nurkic. He is very similar to Jokic.

TrustFundBaby · Post #378 » by **TrustFundBaby** » Tue Nov 16, 2021 3:31 am

Why are people wanting Barnes to go to bench? To put up stats?

We need as much minutes with the Barnes-OG-Siakam combination because it's clear it's the future, can't write it off after 3 games

HumbleRen · Post #379 » by **HumbleRen** » Tue Nov 16, 2021 3:31 am

CJ and Dame are just basically the west coast version of the Demar era Raptors.

Actually worse because Dame is a top 10 player and they're still trash lol.

Dennis 37 · Post #380 » by **Dennis 37** » Tue Nov 16, 2021 3:31 am

traps#10 wrote:Just bring Trent off the bench and start Birch and Barnes. We ain’t developing Barnes if he’s playing the C spot and being the 5 option.

Disagree. Barnes to the bench. Sports Illustrated had a story this week saying the same thing. Barnes came off the bench on college, but still got his minutes and finished the game.