OT: Rogers Considering Sale of Blue Jays

[Dennis 37]

Playoffs twice since '93. Sell.


Never understood why the building rights couldn't have been Rogers Skydome or Scotiabank Raptors Outpost or whatever so the building identity has continuity. The Raps home will now always be the ACC. Might as well call it The Richer Than You Think Home of Air Canada Carter. Then that changes to Google Home of Air Canada Carter. Or Mingles.com Home of Air Canada Carter. Or Vince's Palace brought to you by Payday Loans fking people over since rules allowed loan sharks into the lending market without breaking kneecaps.

I laugh at the Cash Money commercial where they point out that their clients appreciate the safe and clean environment. How many businesses have to advertise that they clean their stores and ensure all safety hazards have been addressed?

Saw an ad on an Easy Financial sign saying loans starting at 39.9%. Starting? Why are these places legal?

Your rant against sponsorship will fall on deaf ears. All my expressions of frustration over advertising creep have been met with encouragement that I get with the times. Young people have been conditioned to accept advertising everywhere and that tradition must take a back seat.

Yup...must be the young people...

...or....

While I see your point the basketball and hockey arenas of that era were ad free. Baseball only had ads in the outfield. Because I grew up during a time where advertising in sports wasn't over the top, I am more sensitive to it. I have been told by younger fans that I need to catch up to the times. I conclude from that that younger people have been conditioned to accept advertising in places I find objectionable.

[Westside Gunn]

I'm fine with ads around the arena and stuff. What got to me was placing them on the jerseys

[macNcheese3]

Damn

[WuTang_CMB]

It would not surprise me if this decision has something to do with this:

http://www.cbc.ca/sports/baseball/mlb/blue-jays-rogers-centre-future-1.4079505

Last year, the Blue Jays and Rogers Communications, which owns the team, put a call out for architectural and design firms to submit their best ideas for revamping the stadium. The team has selected a firm, but it hasn't been made public and no early renderings revealing how this project might take shape have been made available.

The Blue Jays also haven't confirmed how much they'll spend on the project, but initial figures suggest something in the $250-400 million range.

It follows logically that if Rogers is looking to invest in other products that they would sell now before putting that kind of money and effort into the stadium. Plus, my guess is that a new ownership group would want to put their stamp on that renovation.

The Renovation cost is definitely a factor for Rogers to sell. There was a reason why they acted so slowly on it... they've been dragging their feet through mud with it, probably hoping to increase the value of the team by winning, which they have done (with the exception of last season) and then look to sell.

Terrible ownership. I hope they get out asap

[hankscorpioLA]

While I see your point the basketball and hockey arenas of that era were ad free. Baseball only had ads in the outfield. Because I grew up during a time where advertising in sports wasn't over the top, I am more sensitive to it. I have been told by younger fans that I need to catch up to the times. I conclude from that that younger people have been conditioned to accept advertising in places I find objectionable.

The issue is that you suffer from a common condition among those who have reached a certain age.

It's called nostalgia. And it can be explained cognitively. When you are younger, you have fewer accumulated experiences, so those you do have tend to be more impactful. And they have a greater influence on your beliefs. The same process, on a smaller scale, occurs the first time we meet someone and form a "first impression".

So you are cognitively inclined to believe that there is something wrong with the level of advertising in sports today because that isn't how it was when you formed your initial impression.

Similarly, the young people forming their initial impressions now will have no issue because it is just what they know.

In truth, neither old nor new is INHERENTLY better or worse. Lots of social changes haven't been for the better, but many have, especially for women and non-whites.

The key is to try to always look with fresh eyes at things as they are.

[Anticon]

Curious to know who in Canada could afford to buy the Jays. Maybe David Thomson?

Rogers is an awful owner, we should be grateful that Bell was there to save them from their own incompetence.

[RaptorsNorth]

MLSE rubbing their hands like birdman.

[MavCarter]

Curious to know who in Canada could afford to buy the Jays. Maybe David Thomson?

Rogers is an awful owner, we should be grateful that Bell was there to save them from their own incompetence.

Thompson could be an interesting name since he already has the true north sports and entertainment company that owns the jets. Heard on the radio today that he was more interested in the real estate and the development of downtown winnipeg when he and his partner purchased the jets though. The jays don't really offer that unless they build a new stadium somewhere else

[MavCarter]

MLSE rubbing their hands like birdman.

MLSE was first to mind when i read the headline but apparently the MLB is moving towards the NFL rule of not allowing corporations to own teams. That would rule out MLSE

[MavCarter]

Read on Twitter

What exactly does this mean lol

[C Court]

Part of the rationale for bringing in Shapiro and eliminating a lot of the old Blue Jays management group was so that the Blue Jays would be a better fit culturally/business-wise within the Rogers corporate structure. And now they want to sell it?

Unless Rogers feels the new business team makes the Blue Jays more attractive to a prospective buyer, I'm not sure why they didn't stick with the status quo.

[Anticon]

Read on Twitter

What exactly does this mean lol

Basically they own a lot of assets worth billions that aren’t reflected in their share price.

They’d like that to change. Selling the Jays or something else is the most obvious way to do that, but they’re leaving the door open.

[whatamoron]

The Marlins sold for $1.2bil, I can't imagine the Blue Jays are worth less.. They bought controlling interest for $165mil and the SkyDome for $25mil. They could get a solid return on investment.

They might be worth less than you think, the bulk of their revenues are in Canadian dollars but
most of their expenses are in American. They have an old stadium that probably need replacing
in the next decade. The team is at the start of a decline in performance which will affect attendance.
Besides Bell who else would benefit by owning them the number of Canadians and Canadian Companies
who have the resources to buy them is limited

[metafisical]

What if the Jays are relocated?

[OAKLEY_2]

MLSE rubbing their hands like birdman.

MLSE was first to mind when i read the headline but apparently the MLB is moving towards the NFL rule of not allowing corporations to own teams. That would rule out MLSE

Uhh what is the difference between a Billionaire and a Billions revenue corporations owning teams? Isn't it the same over the top B.S.? The only reason we need this kind of ownership is because of advertising and TV which inflate values and costs. Have to wonder how many more decades advertising and TV as we know it will even be there? In thirty years basketball might be played in arenas of 5,000 and people will come for 50-50 tickets and other mini casino opportunities.

[WuTang_CMB]

What if the Jays are relocated?

MLB would never do that in a million years.

[Big Mac Biyombo]

What if the Jays are relocated?

MLB would never do that in a million years.

After the Sonics debacle, I don't trust any of these guys. The Raiders move every time the wind changes direction. The NHL has moved tons of teams from hockey markets to places where nobody cares. Winnipeg to Phoenix, Hartford to Raleigh, Quebec to Denver. The whole Brooklyn Islanders thing is looking like a disaster too.

[C Court]

Good article on the potential Jays sale and what it means longer term.

Read on Twitter

[WuTang_CMB]

What if the Jays are relocated?

MLB would never do that in a million years.

After the Sonics debacle, I don't trust any of these guys. The Raiders move every time the wind changes direction. The NHL has moved tons of teams from hockey markets to places where nobody cares. Winnipeg to Phoenix, Hartford to Raleigh, Quebec to Denver. The whole Brooklyn Islanders thing is looking like a disaster too.

They won't pull their lone Canadian team. Would lose the Canadian following/loss of growth in the game.

[dacrusha]

Rogers has always been a very passive and careful owner, so it'll be interesting if the Jays can be bought by a group that is willing to put money into the team to drive fan interest. They have always been one to pay the bare minimum to field a .500 roster in hopes that they somehow can make some noise in August/September... rather than investing ahead of time in the off-season to field a competitive side out of the gate.

True to their passive ways, Shapiro was telling fans recently we're in the running for Ohtani, which of course was a lie just to keep Jays fan hopes/interest high.

It's sad, because if Rogers and management decided to really pour money into the team to build a winner at all costs, they would have record-breaking profits come back to them year over year, because Toronto (and Canadian) baseball fans have no problem opening their wallets for a winner.