[Goodwill] Raptors Showing Interest In Andre Drummond

[execoftheyear]

Would do Gasol and Powell for Drummond and whatever filler is needed. Would be nice to get Powell off the books and finally having a Center who can rebound.

I keep seeing people offering Ibaka instead of Gasol but that would make zero sense. Gasol and Drummond together would be pointless. Drummond and Ibaka could actually play together on the court.

Gasol is too important defensively to trade him for Drummond.

I disagree. I think the defense has been fine without Gasol. Gasol is an abysmal and useless offensive player. I don’t know what the hell happened to him but he can’t score anymore. Its like somebody stole his offensive talent. He’s really just good for positioning and plugging up the paint.

There’s a reason why we were one of the top teams in 3 point shooting when Gasol was healthy. He created a lot of open looks for players and kept the ball moving, something people just seem to overlook. His 3 point shot was also starting to fall before he got injured which would’ve been great for spacing. He’s elite on the defensive end, people don’t realize how smart of a defender he is. He calls the other team’s offensive sets and is a vocal leader directing players to their proper positions, really moves well out on the perimeter for a big and has great hands in knocking balls loose and deflecting passes. Gasol is untouchable imo if we’re serious about making another run at the chip. Drummond would really benefit having Gasol as his mentor.

[The Answer!]

I’d be open to this. Just like we did last year at deadline, sometimes you gotta swing for the fences to put you over the top.

[disoblige]

With blake I don't think they will rebuild. Andre Drummond + filler for Lowry + OG + 1st round Picks.

[goinrogue]

Rose and Drummond for Serge and FVV works in the trade checker. Raps get a vet who is making a comeback and a solid rebounder. Pistons get 2 expiring contracts to start the rebuild.

[Alpha Mentality]

Drummond will demand the max or near max. Considering how bare the free agency class is (he's literally the only 'stud' on the market), he will get it. He's also been very vocal about getting every bit of that max contract.

5 years $190M is what we're looking at to re-sign him. $38 million a year for Andre Drummond.

Classic case of do not touch. You could sell me on this proposition if we were success starved for a decade like the Kings, but even then I'd be apprehensive. There's a paradigm shift in how to win in this league at the highest levels, i.e. Finals, and Drummond is not the type of player that you can play in those situations logging 35 minutes a game. Let another team have him, grab the popcorn, and enjoy from afar.

Nobody says we have to resign him. If you’re the Raptors and don’t want to resign Gasol or Ibaka to what they want you can look to upgrade now. You’re not going to lose anything if you’re going to let them all walk anyway. And if you can move out a Powell in the process I think you try to make that trade if it’s available. Gasol looks pretty much done. Being able to guard Joel Embid shouldn’t be the only reason to want to keep him. Guarding Embid isn’t even difficult because hes so willing to shoot contested jump shots. Its as much Nick Nurse’s gameplan as it is Gasol.

[Inklink]

[Ganjamayne]

We drafted Ross instead of Drummond?! Large fail.

[SHFT]

I still remember when James Johnson threw it back and banged on em. Then Drummond got pissy and fouled him when he was in flight.

I recently watched the NBA's official top 100 dunks of the decade.....wasnt even on there. I knew Drummond throwing it down on Knight would be #1 so when it wasnt #2 I lost my **** lol.

Thats criminal.

[EH15]

Drummond will demand the max or near max. Considering how bare the free agency class is (he's literally the only 'stud' on the market), he will get it. He's also been very vocal about getting every bit of that max contract.

5 years $190M is what we're looking at to re-sign him. $38 million a year for Andre Drummond.

Classic case of do not touch. You could sell me on this proposition if we were success starved for a decade like the Kings, but even then I'd be apprehensive. There's a paradigm shift in how to win in this league at the highest levels, i.e. Finals, and Drummond is not the type of player that you can play in those situations logging 35 minutes a game. Let another team have him, grab the popcorn, and enjoy from afar.

Nobody says we have to resign him. If you’re the Raptors and don’t want to resign Gasol or Ibaka to what they want you can look to upgrade now. You’re not going to lose anything if you’re going to let them all walk anyway. And if you can move out a Powell in the process I think you try to make that trade if it’s available. Gasol looks pretty much done. Being able to guard Joel Embid shouldn’t be the only reason to want to keep him. Guarding Embid isn’t even difficult because hes so willing to shoot contested jump shots. Its as much Nick Nurse’s gameplan as it is Gasol.

That's fair, but I fail to see we would give up anything more than a 2nd rounder for him if we're not willing to re-sign him. I think too many are overvaluing what Drummond really is. I've watched enough DET games to know what he is. A talented guy who lacks motor at times and has IQ issues in the same vein as Ibaka. He's a good passer, a great rebounder, a passable finisher, not a very good defensive anchor despite the STOCKS. He's an amazing stat stuffer, but his actual impact leaves a lot to be desired. A guy on DET we should take a look at is Bruce Brown. Quite the development so far in just a year.

[Ackshun]

I do Like Drummond but to me, he's that third piece.

We are ranked in the last 3 in def rebound % which is a problem that needed addressing. But at what cost ?

I don't move Gasol because he's far too important at the elbow for us. Plus his ability to guard the paint again giannis and shut down Embild is needed.

Andre's contract is up just before the 21/22 season starts. I know we like that.


Ibaka/Miller/future 1st gets it done and gives Detroit cap flexibility to try something different this off-season.

I worry about spacing with with a Gasol/Pascal/Drummond/RHJ/Boucher front court rotation though.

[720]

With blake I don't think they will rebuild. Andre Drummond + filler for Lowry + OG + 1st round Picks.

[MavCarter]

I would rather keep out first round pick than trade it for drummond. He'd solve a huge rebounding issue with our team but im not sure id want to pay him

[Alpha Mentality]

Drummond will demand the max or near max. Considering how bare the free agency class is (he's literally the only 'stud' on the market), he will get it. He's also been very vocal about getting every bit of that max contract.

5 years $190M is what we're looking at to re-sign him. $38 million a year for Andre Drummond.

Classic case of do not touch. You could sell me on this proposition if we were success starved for a decade like the Kings, but even then I'd be apprehensive. There's a paradigm shift in how to win in this league at the highest levels, i.e. Finals, and Drummond is not the type of player that you can play in those situations logging 35 minutes a game. Let another team have him, grab the popcorn, and enjoy from afar.

Nobody says we have to resign him. If you’re the Raptors and don’t want to resign Gasol or Ibaka to what they want you can look to upgrade now. You’re not going to lose anything if you’re going to let them all walk anyway. And if you can move out a Powell in the process I think you try to make that trade if it’s available. Gasol looks pretty much done. Being able to guard Joel Embid shouldn’t be the only reason to want to keep him. Guarding Embid isn’t even difficult because hes so willing to shoot contested jump shots. Its as much Nick Nurse’s gameplan as it is Gasol.

That's fair, but I fail to see we would give up anything more than a 2nd rounder for him if we're not willing to re-sign him. I think too many are overvaluing what Drummond really is. I've watched enough DET games to know what he is. A talented guy who lacks motor and has IQ issues in the same vein as Ibaka. He's a good passer, a great rebounder, a passable finisher, not a very good defensive anchor despite the STOCKS. He's an amazing stat stuffer, but his actual impact leaves a lot to be desired. A guy on DET we should take a look at is Bruce Brown. Quite the development so far in just a year.

I feel our system would do a much better job hiding Drummond’s weaknesses. Pistons are an unorganized disaster. Nurse would get the most out of Drummond and we really need his rebounding. That’s something we have lacked for a long time. Consistent board clean up on both ends. Drummond or an athletic rebounder like him is the perfect fit on this current roster. We could really use one. Especially one who can clean up shots and finish at the basket.

[niQ]

I would rather keep out first round pick than trade it for drummond. He'd solve a huge rebounding issue with our team but im not sure id want to pay him

We don't have to give him another contract. Whether he leaves in FA or opts-in for one more year, we'd still be in play for 2021.

[Tomhomes33]

We drafted Ross instead of Drummond, traded Ross for Ibaka and now trading Ibaka and other assets for Drummond.

Lets make something clear. Pistons will not accept expiring for Drummond.
He will likely option out this summer anyway, so Pistons gain nothing with matching expiring salaries.

They will want picks and young asset
Our bigs are expiring and Masai will likely hold onto OG this season, so who do you send?

I just dont see it

[HeadtopChunes]

With blake I don't think they will rebuild. Andre Drummond + filler for Lowry + OG + 1st round Picks.

Lmaoo

Here’s what the rumoured the Atlanta deal is

The Hawks have discussed sending a package that includes a 2020 first-round pick via the Brooklyn Nets and the salary-cap relief of expiring contracts for Detroit, league sources said. A potential deal would include other assets.

[PhilBlackson]

Masai doesn’t leak. And he certainly wouldn’t leak that Drummond is buddies with Lowry. So this is coming from Drummond, who must have seen Thompson all but begging to get traded to the 6.

I wish people stop repeating this myth.

There were multiple reports almost a year in advance of trading for both PJ Tucker and Ibaka. Not to mention when we blatantly looking to shop Bargnani before Masai bent over Dolan.

If I were at home I'd hit you with several links to each which I seem to have to do every time we're involved in trade rumours but you're free to simply set a google search to the specific time of 8-12 months before the eventual trades. Raps never having leaks simply isn't true.

[Scott Hall]

We drafted Ross instead of Drummond?! Large fail.

What's funny is Casey is the one who pushed for us to draft Ross he supposedly knew him quite well
because Ross played for Washington and Casey lives in Seattle ironically Casey could be trading him
back to us.

[raptor jesus]

I'm somewhat intrigued by the prospect of him playing w/ solid pick and roll guards; and if Nurse could get him to buy into the Raptors effort level, he could be a beast. That said, I don't think he'd take the Raps over the top since he's more of a complimentary guy, so I wouldn't engage in a bidding war for his services.

[Tor_Raps]

I would rather keep out first round pick than trade it for drummond. He'd solve a huge rebounding issue with our team but im not sure id want to pay him

We don't have to give him another contract. Whether he leaves in FA or opts-in for one more year, we'd still be in play for 2021.

But don't you feel a team would give up more to get him if they feel they can bring him back? It's why i can't see him coming here because we won't give up enough value if our plan would be to let him walk. It's one thing if he was our missing peice for another championship but he is clearly not that.