GT #33 | Cavs @ Raptors | January 1st, 7:30PM EST SN
Moderators: DG88, niQ, Duffman100, tsherkin, Reeko, lebron stopper, HiJiNX, 7 Footer, Morris_Shatford
Re: GT #33 | Cavs @ Raptors | January 1st, 7:30PM EST SN
- SFour
- RealGM
- Posts: 41,182
- And1: 61,530
- Joined: Apr 07, 2012
-
Re: GT #33 | Cavs @ Raptors | January 1st, 7:30PM EST SN
we weren't blessed with a Barnes/Maxey combo but IQ is probably the next best thing.....hopefully this is the basketball gods giving us some light after a depressing & disappointing season.
Re: GT #33 | Cavs @ Raptors | January 1st, 7:30PM EST SN
- Airmiess
- Starter
- Posts: 2,172
- And1: 2,108
- Joined: May 30, 2022
Re: GT #33 | Cavs @ Raptors | January 1st, 7:30PM EST SN
SFour wrote:we weren't blessed with a Barnes/Maxey combo but IQ is probably the next best thing.....hopefully this is the basketball gods giving us some light after a depressing & disappointing season.
Would have been like the poor mans Bron & Kyrie.
But I got hope for Scottie x Quick..
Re: GT #33 | Cavs @ Raptors | January 1st, 7:30PM EST SN
-
2019nbachamps
- Lead Assistant
- Posts: 4,541
- And1: 4,915
- Joined: Jul 10, 2019
-
Re: GT #33 | Cavs @ Raptors | January 1st, 7:30PM EST SN
vulture wrote:Mr.Raptorsingh wrote:2019nbachamps wrote:
Realistically we are unlikely to make the playoffs. Goal is development.
Quickley will lead us there
I’m very optimistic that they will make it the playoffs but most importantly the future is just better with this team.
I’m also happy about the trade and more optimistic now. But we’re 3 games back of the playoffs and will lose more ground in the next 2 weeks due to our west coast trip. Plus it seems like we’re gonna trade Pascal.
Re: GT #33 | Cavs @ Raptors | January 1st, 7:30PM EST SN
-
vulture
- Head Coach
- Posts: 6,935
- And1: 5,960
- Joined: Oct 04, 2002
- Location: At the Border
Re: GT #33 | Cavs @ Raptors | January 1st, 7:30PM EST SN
Los_29 wrote:vulture wrote:Mr.Raptorsingh wrote:
Quickley will lead us there
I’m very optimistic that they will make it the playoffs but most importantly the future is just better with this team.
What do you think happens with Pascal?
It all depends on the next 6 weeks but I believe he re-signs here and they will trade him for a superstar in a year or so.
Removing another creator from this team makes no sense especially since Scottie isn’t quite a good isolation scorer yet. You can now surround Scottie and pascal with 3 good shooters and that’s really difficult to guard.
I know people are worried about the defense but OG doesn’t truly change your team defense that much since he’s a wing. We have to hope that jak gets back to protecting the rim like a few years ago.
Re: GT #33 | Cavs @ Raptors | January 1st, 7:30PM EST SN
-
vulture
- Head Coach
- Posts: 6,935
- And1: 5,960
- Joined: Oct 04, 2002
- Location: At the Border
Re: GT #33 | Cavs @ Raptors | January 1st, 7:30PM EST SN
2019nbachamps wrote:vulture wrote:Mr.Raptorsingh wrote:
Quickley will lead us there
I’m very optimistic that they will make it the playoffs but most importantly the future is just better with this team.
I’m also happy about the trade and more optimistic now. But we’re 3 games back of the playoffs and will lose more ground in the next 2 weeks due to our west coast trip. Plus it seems like we’re gonna trade Pascal.
There is a lot of parity in the league right now and 3 games isn’t much to make up. They finally have 8 rotation guys they can play now and that changes everything.
I’m just over the moon with this trade.
Re: GT #33 | Cavs @ Raptors | January 1st, 7:30PM EST SN
- Bruin
- RealGM
- Posts: 25,289
- And1: 39,784
- Joined: Mar 11, 2018
-
Re: GT #33 | Cavs @ Raptors | January 1st, 7:30PM EST SN
We’re 2 games back from a play in spot and 6 games back from the 6 seed with 50 games to go. Easily could be in the playoff picture if this trade causes us to start winning some more
It would mean IQ is the guy we’re hoping for and I’m honestly kinda itching to see this version of Scottie in a playoff series. I just wanted to be back in this draft and now we are so I don’t care too much about conveying a non lotto pick if we were to start winning. If we can make the right pick (hopefully) we can still get a stud in the start of the 2nd round.
Still think we make at least one more deal before the deadline (between Pascal, Jakob, and/or or Gary) and hopefully it’s for a similar package with young players who can contribute and fit the Scottie + IQ timeline
Here’s to starting off 2024 with a W
It would mean IQ is the guy we’re hoping for and I’m honestly kinda itching to see this version of Scottie in a playoff series. I just wanted to be back in this draft and now we are so I don’t care too much about conveying a non lotto pick if we were to start winning. If we can make the right pick (hopefully) we can still get a stud in the start of the 2nd round.
Still think we make at least one more deal before the deadline (between Pascal, Jakob, and/or or Gary) and hopefully it’s for a similar package with young players who can contribute and fit the Scottie + IQ timeline
Here’s to starting off 2024 with a W

Re: GT #33 | Cavs @ Raptors | January 1st, 7:30PM EST SN
-
Los_29
- RealGM
- Posts: 15,281
- And1: 13,896
- Joined: Apr 10, 2021
Re: GT #33 | Cavs @ Raptors | January 1st, 7:30PM EST SN
vulture wrote:Los_29 wrote:vulture wrote:
I’m very optimistic that they will make it the playoffs but most importantly the future is just better with this team.
What do you think happens with Pascal?
It all depends on the next 6 weeks but I believe he re-signs here and they will trade him for a superstar in a year or so.
Removing another creator from this team makes no sense especially since Scottie isn’t quite a good isolation scorer yet. You can now surround Scottie and pascal with 3 good shooters and that’s really difficult to guard.
I know people are worried about the defense but OG doesn’t truly change your team defense that much since he’s a wing. We have to hope that jak gets back to protecting the rim like a few years ago.
Yeah I agree. I think the main priority should be to lock him up and then look to move him next year. I think Scottie and Pascal will benefit a lot from IQ and although I'm not a huge fan of RJ, he's much better than what we had before. We have a pretty good top 7 right now.
Re: GT #33 | Cavs @ Raptors | January 1st, 7:30PM EST SN
- AndreasLeftCalf
- Analyst
- Posts: 3,342
- And1: 3,980
- Joined: Oct 31, 2012
-
Re: GT #33 | Cavs @ Raptors | January 1st, 7:30PM EST SN
undefeated in 2024 lets keep it this way!
Re: GT #33 | Cavs @ Raptors | January 1st, 7:30PM EST SN
-
vulture
- Head Coach
- Posts: 6,935
- And1: 5,960
- Joined: Oct 04, 2002
- Location: At the Border
Re: GT #33 | Cavs @ Raptors | January 1st, 7:30PM EST SN
Los_29 wrote:vulture wrote:Los_29 wrote:
What do you think happens with Pascal?
It all depends on the next 6 weeks but I believe he re-signs here and they will trade him for a superstar in a year or so.
Removing another creator from this team makes no sense especially since Scottie isn’t quite a good isolation scorer yet. You can now surround Scottie and pascal with 3 good shooters and that’s really difficult to guard.
I know people are worried about the defense but OG doesn’t truly change your team defense that much since he’s a wing. We have to hope that jak gets back to protecting the rim like a few years ago.
Yeah I agree. I think the main priority should be to lock him up and then look to move him next year. I think Scottie and Pascal will benefit a lot from IQ and although I'm not a huge fan of RJ, he's much better than what we had before. We have a pretty good top 7 right now.
Think about all the 2 man options quickley can get into with this team. Pascal, Scottie and jak should all become more efficient with the amount space they will have.
Think about how well Fred was playing in 2021 before his knee injury and the spacing on the team when he was bombing from the logo. IQ will get to that level and his screen navigation just helps jak on defense now.
I can finally enjoy watching the raptors for the first time since the beginning of last season.
Re: GT #33 | Cavs @ Raptors | January 1st, 7:30PM EST SN
-
Tor_Raps
- RealGM
- Posts: 32,422
- And1: 47,148
- Joined: Oct 14, 2018
Re: GT #33 | Cavs @ Raptors | January 1st, 7:30PM EST SN
metafisical wrote:Spida888 wrote:Hoping IQ starts but maybe they'll gradually make that transition.
Mobley and Garland are both out. Let's start the new year right so we can forget about that horrible loss!
If Garland and Mobley are both out, we will win no doubt.
Fake win though, but what do I know?
Cavs have been on a run since they've both been out so I wouldn't get too confident about that lol
Re: GT #33 | Cavs @ Raptors | January 1st, 7:30PM EST SN
-
mrdressup
- Head Coach
- Posts: 6,254
- And1: 5,604
- Joined: Apr 23, 2007
Re: GT #33 | Cavs @ Raptors | January 1st, 7:30PM EST SN
YogurtProducer wrote:mrdressup wrote:YogurtProducer wrote:He will. I’d be genuinely shocked if we throw guys who have maybe had one practice to learn our system into the starting lineup.
What system? It's a situation where our existing guys will have to learn to play with talent.
Our offensive system? Our defensive rotations? Aka things 99% of this board have no clue about when watching basketball.
Must be the case with our announcers then, because many would know of that by now if it was recognizable and spoken about. The system is to pray that someone is going to receive a divine revelation about what to do when they have to act.
Re: GT #33 | Cavs @ Raptors | January 1st, 7:30PM EST SN
- artsncrafts
- RealGM
- Posts: 22,359
- And1: 26,035
- Joined: Feb 04, 2013
- Location: Shambleland, Ont.
-
Re: GT #33 | Cavs @ Raptors | January 1st, 7:30PM EST SN
Bruin wrote:We’re 2 games back from a play in spot and 6 games back from the 6 seed with 50 games to go. Easily could be in the playoff picture if this trade causes us to start winning some more
Damn the East sucks. Detroit probably has a shot at the play in still
Harold_and_Kumar wrote:What if the 10 incher was overrated and the 4 incher was too small for any playing time, but the 7 incher was a perfect fit for our roster and the 5 incher was good for specific situations, like backdoor cuts?
Re: GT #33 | Cavs @ Raptors | January 1st, 7:30PM EST SN
- JShuttlesworth
- RealGM
- Posts: 10,214
- And1: 13,421
- Joined: Dec 09, 2013
- Location: Toronto
-
Re: GT #33 | Cavs @ Raptors | January 1st, 7:30PM EST SN
One of the first games in a long time that I've genuinely been looking forward to watching
It's been a long time coming
It's been a long time coming
Re: GT #33 | Cavs @ Raptors | January 1st, 7:30PM EST SN
- mintsa
- Head Coach
- Posts: 6,694
- And1: 3,749
- Joined: Jun 28, 2001
Re: GT #33 | Cavs @ Raptors | January 1st, 7:30PM EST SN
Both are in the lineup tonight ?
Re: GT #33 | Cavs @ Raptors | January 1st, 7:30PM EST SN
-
DemHeavyHands
- Starter
- Posts: 2,220
- And1: 3,112
- Joined: Dec 11, 2022
-
Re: GT #33 | Cavs @ Raptors | January 1st, 7:30PM EST SN
- Scase
- RealGM
- Posts: 14,640
- And1: 10,782
- Joined: Feb 02, 2009
- Location: Ottawa by way of MTL
-
Re: GT #33 | Cavs @ Raptors | January 1st, 7:30PM EST SN
DatHomieYouHaTe wrote:If Dennis starts.... lol
I'm fully expecting him to start for probably another week or 2 until they get better integrated.

Props TZ!
Re: GT #33 | Cavs @ Raptors | January 1st, 7:30PM EST SN
-
MoneyBall
- Lead Assistant
- Posts: 4,716
- And1: 4,016
- Joined: May 02, 2009
Re: GT #33 | Cavs @ Raptors | January 1st, 7:30PM EST SN
I'm gonna miss OG shutting down Mitchell.
Re: GT #33 | Cavs @ Raptors | January 1st, 7:30PM EST SN
- TorontoBarneys
- Lead Assistant
- Posts: 5,943
- And1: 7,082
- Joined: Dec 30, 2022
-
Re: GT #33 | Cavs @ Raptors | January 1st, 7:30PM EST SN
I don't foresee RJ starting for us this season unless his 3pt shot improves considerably. With Siakam/Poeltl you need at least 3 above-average shooters beside them so it's IQ/GTJ/Scottie likely in the long-run this season.
Re: GT #33 | Cavs @ Raptors | January 1st, 7:30PM EST SN
- T-d0t
- General Manager
- Posts: 8,978
- And1: 13,141
- Joined: Nov 08, 2012
- Location: T-dot
-
Re: GT #33 | Cavs @ Raptors | January 1st, 7:30PM EST SN
Don't know if I'm overrating IQ but he was already Maxey lite (pre breakout Maxey) in the mins with the Knicks past couples seasons.
Re: GT #33 | Cavs @ Raptors | January 1st, 7:30PM EST SN
-
Tor_Raps
- RealGM
- Posts: 32,422
- And1: 47,148
- Joined: Oct 14, 2018
Re: GT #33 | Cavs @ Raptors | January 1st, 7:30PM EST SN
Our best starting lineup is probably the following but I doubt we bring Barrett off the bench.
Quickley/ Schroder
Trent/
Barnes/ Barrett
Siakam/ Porter
Poeltl/ Boucher
Quickley/ Schroder
Trent/
Barnes/ Barrett
Siakam/ Porter
Poeltl/ Boucher














