Do we really want the guy who gave Poeltl his contract to make future decisions?

[ATLTimekeeper]

Hopefully Poeltl's back isn't cooked but it's not looking promising at least for this season. I doubt the FO would have given him the extension if they knew that his back would be like this.

However, I do criticize them for not waiting until later into the season to potentially extend him. If I'm not mistaken, since Jak had a player option for next year, we had up until end of June 2026 to extend him (unlike RJ).

Was there some event where this happened that I missed, where it got crazy worse, because from what I read it is wasn’t a surprise, it had been an issue last year and they gave many different reasons for why he didn’t really even take part in preseason. His backs been the sam all season I believe. Lots of times this season where he’s played but was so limited he wasn’t himself and was hurting us. This is why I’m questioning the decision so much. It’d be one thing if I can recall an event or the game after we signed the guy where he got hurt. Thats just the way it goes, but just like I’d question the gm who takes Jak’s deal, if it’s not a new injury then what kind of risk assessment was done to ensure you were left holding the bag?

looking through his injury history he missed one game last year due to his back. That hardly seems like the same thing. Especially in a tanking season when injuries get creative. Like, your premise is correct that it would have been stupid to extend him knowing he'd miss most of the next season due to a back condition, but maybe think about how unrealistic that scenario is, and whether Bobby specifically seems like that stupid of a person.

I would say this was probably a coincidence, and an unfortunate one.

[DelAbbot]

Bobby should be accused of being too lazy to develop some rotation players / possible a starter who have the size to play C. To me that's the worst sin he committed when he gave that extension to Poeltl to his age 34 season.

Bobby planned for no backup plan to Poeltl leaving via FA or getting hurt. In fact, he got no backup for Poeltl this season.

[ishoy123]

I think Bobby gets fired this offseason

Stopped reading.

Bobby is not getting fired a year after being the main decision maker.

And that's how you become the Sacramento Kings where you turnover your coach and GM every year or two just because of a move you don't like

[Clutch0z24]

I think Bobby gets fired this offseason

Stopped reading.

Bobby is not getting fired a year after being the main decision maker.

And that's how you become the Sacramento Kings where you turnover your coach and GM every year or two just because of a move you don't like

Its more about Ed getting his guy the guy he wants to run the team....I highly doubt Bobby is Eds long term GM here.

[DelAbbot]

I think Bobby gets fired this offseason because i don't think he will be able to trade IQ/Yak/Barrett for the upgrade that Ed asked of him this deadline and i think we get nothing of much value this deadline.....Ed will take control of the team and bring in his own guy to run the team....

Bobby will be gone this offseason if he is unable to make a trade this deadline....Remember this post when it happens....

Bobby trades 3 FRPs with no protections + salary ballast for Anthony Davis, and Ed rewards him with an extension.

If it takes 3FRPs to get off these contracts than he deserves to be fired for that as well....No team is offering draft capital for AD or Morant right now.....We are bidding against Hawks for AD who might not offer one.....So having to give up 3 would be pretty bad.

Bobby might not be Eds guy so he might be gone regardless....Usually when new owners come in they want to hire their own guys so i think Bobby is on borrowed time regardless.

You claimed "Bobby will be gone this offseason if he is unable to make a trade this deadline"

so does that mean if Bobby trades 3 FRPs with no protections + salary ballast for Anthony Davis, and Ed rewards him with an extension?

[Clutch0z24]

Bobby trades 3 FRPs with no protections + salary ballast for Anthony Davis, and Ed rewards him with an extension.

If it takes 3FRPs to get off these contracts than he deserves to be fired for that as well....No team is offering draft capital for AD or Morant right now.....We are bidding against Hawks for AD who might not offer one.....So having to give up 3 would be pretty bad.

Bobby might not be Eds guy so he might be gone regardless....Usually when new owners come in they want to hire their own guys so i think Bobby is on borrowed time regardless.

You claimed "Bobby will be gone this offseason if he is unable to make a trade this deadline"

so does that mean if Bobby trades 3 FRPs with no protections + salary ballast for Anthony Davis, and Ed rewards him with an extension?

Gotta look at the market right now for that player?....Right now its been reported its only Raptors, Hawks that are interested in AD....That means we are bidding against the Hawks atm....

The Hawks are hesitant to add much draft capital in the deal....So that means if it takes 3 FRPs to get AD it is because of the horrible contracts Bobby handed out which makes us have to give up lots of draft capital just to get off them contracts.....Which yes should be a good reason to get fired for handing out horrible contracts that you have to trade draft capital to get off them...

Idk why that is so hard to understand....Lol anyone who gives bad contracts out that have to attach picks to get off them should be in the hot seat and if you have to badly outbid yourself and everyone else in the market for said player because the assets you have and contracts you gave out then yes you deserve to be fired....Especially the history and the last 5 years Bobby had a hand in many blunders already...

[DelAbbot]

Oh look, the post frequency by a couple of posters has increased dramatically today. Must be just a coincidence that the Raps lost 2 in a row.

Same as those Masai-supporters who disappeared from posting, season after the Poeltl trade

[Tha Cynic]

This thread is hyperbole as usual, but i completely forgot about the extension Poeltl got. Yikes lol

[YogurtProducer]

What was the freaking rush to extend is the biggest question I have? There was mostly downside to doing this, esp with a 30 year old, it's not like he had a ton of room for improvement, where that early extension is bet on said improvement (i.e. the IQ contract).

yeah this is confusing. The 19.5 million extension was a steal, great deal done. The recent extension was a head scratcher...

Only thing I can think of is we really value the term on deals as we don't want guys to go to FA.

So might have been a "either extend now or we likely trade you".

[YogurtProducer]

Oh look, the post frequency by a couple of posters has increased dramatically today. Must be just a coincidence that the Raps lost 2 in a row.

Same as those Masai-supporters who disappeared from posting, season after the Poeltl trade

Such as?

[Badonkadonk]

Oh look, the post frequency by a couple of posters has increased dramatically today. Must be just a coincidence that the Raps lost 2 in a row.

Same as those Masai-supporters who disappeared from posting, season after the Poeltl trade

Such as?

Nobody's disappeared, these threads are toxic and there's honestly no point.

[Duffman100]

Oh look, the post frequency by a couple of posters has increased dramatically today. Must be just a coincidence that the Raps lost 2 in a row.

Same as those Masai-supporters who disappeared from posting, season after the Poeltl trade

Yeah nice try. The people who largely supported Masai tend to stick around all the time. Through bad times and good times.

You pop up any time we lose and tend to me absent when we win. I guess that's a real fan.

[Def Leppard]

FO loves Bobby. You heard it here first

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[djsunyc]

is weed legal in canada? because some of you need to start smoking it. too much nervous energy lol.

[LoveMyRaps]

We were fine with the person who gave demaree caroll that contract

you mean the same guy that joined this team in 2013 and transformed a trash team to a winning one that had 7 straight playoff appearances including a championship?

don't be so dense

[LoveMyRaps]

Same as those Masai-supporters who disappeared from posting, season after the Poeltl trade

Such as?

Nobody's disappeared, these threads are toxic and there's honestly no point.

off topic but Shakril has totally disappeared since Poeltl went down.

[DelAbbot]

Oh look, the post frequency by a couple of posters has increased dramatically today. Must be just a coincidence that the Raps lost 2 in a row.

Same as those Masai-supporters who disappeared from posting, season after the Poeltl trade

Yeah nice try. The people who largely supported Masai tend to stick around all the time. Through bad times and good times.

You pop up any time we lose and tend to me absent when we win. I guess that's a real fan.

It's clear as day who stopped posting when the going got tough last season, and even the season before. I won't point out their names, but they have started re-appearing this season, after our hot start.

After seeing the Poeltl extension, I realized Bobby won't even take us from a play-in to a 1st round homecourt. He's that bad. So as long as he's here, this franchise won't become a contender. It's better to bottom out from here and re-start with a new FO.

[Duffman100]

Same as those Masai-supporters who disappeared from posting, season after the Poeltl trade

Yeah nice try. The people who largely supported Masai tend to stick around all the time. Through bad times and good times.

You pop up any time we lose and tend to me absent when we win. I guess that's a real fan.

It's clear as day who stopped posting when the going got tough last season, and even the season before. I won't point out their names, but they have started re-appearing this season, after our hot start.

After seeing the Poeltl extension, I realized Bobby won't even take us from a play-in to a 1st round homecourt. He's that bad. So as long as he's here, this franchise won't become a contender. It's better to bottom out from here and re-start with a new FO.

Awesome. Then I expect you to be active when we win games. Sounds fair right? Wouldn't want to be like those other posters that conveniently you don't want to name?

[DelAbbot]

Yeah nice try. The people who largely supported Masai tend to stick around all the time. Through bad times and good times.

You pop up any time we lose and tend to me absent when we win. I guess that's a real fan.

It's clear as day who stopped posting when the going got tough last season, and even the season before. I won't point out their names, but they have started re-appearing this season, after our hot start.

After seeing the Poeltl extension, I realized Bobby won't even take us from a play-in to a 1st round homecourt. He's that bad. So as long as he's here, this franchise won't become a contender. It's better to bottom out from here and re-start with a new FO.

Awesome. Then I expect you to be active when we win games. Sounds fair right? Wouldn't want to be like those other posters that conveniently you don't want to name?

I don't see wins in this current season as contributing to that goal of building a contender. The process of building a contender has stages, and we rushed it last 2 seasons. Our ceiling is capped as 1st round exit, due to it being rushed - as evident by our young players plateauing in their development and lack of offensive talent from our draft choices.

That is why I said this season reminds me of 2021/2022

[Kingsway_fan]

Oh look, the post frequency by a couple of posters has increased dramatically today. Must be just a coincidence that the Raps lost 2 in a row.

Lol it's Raptors Realgm... where over reaction is the norm. Missing key starters... let's wait to see what happens trade deadline, if anything at all.

Positives. Better than expected play from CMB and Shead...

Negatives: fluke injury to starting centre YAK, IQ

Inconsistent coaching and bench...

We are in the pack competing for a playoff spot.

Did people really expect more this season, given our lottery team standing last year +