Official Scottie Barnes Thread

mdenny · Post #401 » by **mdenny** » Sun Oct 31, 2021 7:12 am

rapsincr wrote:ive decided on my handle for barnes
"scottie the body"
fight me

I'm still trying to force "the pickney"

rapsincr · Post #402 » by **rapsincr** » Sun Oct 31, 2021 7:40 am

mdenny wrote:
rapsincr wrote:ive decided on my handle for barnes
"scottie the body"
fight me

I'm still trying to force "the pickney"

anything is better than scottie II hottie for me lol.

Ell Curry · Post #403 » by **Ell Curry** » Sun Oct 31, 2021 8:34 am

Indeed wrote:
PrinceAli wrote:
Childs wrote:Curious, if the Cavs offered Mobley for Barnes, would you do it?

No. Love Mobley and think he’s gonna be great. But I prefer a guy like Barnes cause he do basically do everything and is the true image of positionless basketball. Also love the locker room intangibles and energy he brings

I know some would do it, but I personally would not

I think we may build the team in a different way.
Mobley will need ball handlers with passing around him, so we may keep Lowry. Our whole off-season could be different.

Regardless, there is no point in swapping Barnes and Mobley.

No idea which will be better. Mobley looks (and his numbers resemble those of) AD and Scottie's numbers resemble a 3rd year (1 year older than Scottie) Giannis with the obvious caveat that Giannis was improving from way behind a polished high school age player in Scottie. So if Scottie is a 90% Giannis and Mobley a 100% AD that's probably about the same level?

It's tough not to look at their context and think both teams would be better. Cleveland has bigs and needs wings and the Raptors need a 5:

Mobley
Siakam
OG
Trent
Van Vleet

just looks like it would be so classically solid once Mobley becomes a 20+ guy and a high post hub as a passer. Defensively you have 5 guys you'd expect to be above average guarding their positions.

Allen
Markannen
Barnes
Sexton
Garland

Suddenly Cleveland's frontcourt makes sense defensively and they still have 3 shooters surrounding Barnes and he gets a lob threat so he might even have more room to work than he does in the mid-range/in close as he does in Toronto.

wegotthabeet · Post #404 » by **wegotthabeet** » Sun Oct 31, 2021 10:59 am

mdenny wrote:
rapsincr wrote:ive decided on my handle for barnes
"scottie the body"
fight me

I'm still trying to force "the pickney"

Madhouse · Post #405 » by **Madhouse** » Sun Oct 31, 2021 11:48 am

mdenny wrote:
DAcReator wrote:Honest question: would you trade Scottie for Zion

Now consider his injury proneness and weight issues

I honestly think I don’t

Hell no. But I ain't ever been really big on Zion. Great player. Not sure he plays winning basketball.

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OakleyDokely · Post #406 » by **OakleyDokely** » Sun Oct 31, 2021 12:49 pm

Scottie moving on up the Vegas odds list...

2021-22 NBA Rookie Of The Year Award

Jalen Green+300
Scottie Barnes+450
Cade Cunningham+500
Evan Mobley+600
Chris Duarte+800
Josh Giddey+800
Jalen Suggs+1200

DubaiRaptors · Post #407 » by **DubaiRaptors** » Sun Oct 31, 2021 1:03 pm

Madhouse wrote:
mdenny wrote:
DAcReator wrote:Honest question: would you trade Scottie for Zion

Now consider his injury proneness and weight issues

I honestly think I don’t

Hell no. But I ain't ever been really big on Zion. Great player. Not sure he plays winning basketball.

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Zion still looks like he is overweight. Dude needs to get in shape or else he will continue to have injuries. Do not see things ending well with him and Pelicans. He just does not seem like he wants to be there and looks completely checked out.

OakleyDokely · Post #408 » by **OakleyDokely** » Sun Oct 31, 2021 1:05 pm

I think Zion's signing with the Knicks at his first opportunity. It's a big market and his bromance with Barrett will seal the deal.

Post #409 » by **niQ** » Sun Oct 31, 2021 1:31 pm

Surely Barnes has to be on top of any Rookie Ladder after last night's game.

WuTang_CMB · Post #410 » by **WuTang_CMB** » Sun Oct 31, 2021 2:02 pm

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aminiaturebuddha · Post #411 » by **aminiaturebuddha** » Sun Oct 31, 2021 2:18 pm

Do they do player of the month awards in October, considering it's a short month? If so, you'd think Scottie would have RoTM locked up after last night, with comparatively lesser games from Mobley and Duarte.

sycammer · Post #412 » by **sycammer** » Sun Oct 31, 2021 2:27 pm

aminiaturebuddha wrote:Do they do player of the month awards in October, considering it's a short month? If so, you'd think Scottie would have RoTM locked up after last night, with comparatively lesser games from Mobley and Duarte.

i haven't bothered posting in the general board, but to those raptor fans who are doing, it's a lost cause...the rest of them there must envy the fact we drafted a 100% all-star in the making, maybe even a superstar if he develops as we all expect him to...

OakleyDokely · Post #413 » by **OakleyDokely** » Sun Oct 31, 2021 2:45 pm

I think it's time to pull out all those draft grades done right after the draft.

blastttOFF · Post #414 » by **blastttOFF** » Sun Oct 31, 2021 3:12 pm

Mobley and Cunningham scored two points last night With 1/6 and 1/8 clips respectively.
Jalen Suggs shot for 3/13.

Scottie lucky to be drafted by the raps and we’re lucky to draft him.

Madhouse · Post #415 » by **Madhouse** » Sun Oct 31, 2021 3:29 pm

sycammer wrote:
aminiaturebuddha wrote:Do they do player of the month awards in October, considering it's a short month? If so, you'd think Scottie would have RoTM locked up after last night, with comparatively lesser games from Mobley and Duarte.

i haven't bothered posting in the general board, but to those raptor fans who are doing, it's a lost cause...the rest of them there must envy the fact we drafted a 100% all-star in the making, maybe even a superstar if he develops as we all expect him to...

Some people over there got triggered when I suggested Mobley isn't miles ahead of Barnes, it was pretty funny.

Los_29 · Post #416 » by **Los_29** » Sun Oct 31, 2021 3:37 pm

blastttOFF wrote:Mobley and Cunningham scored two points last night With 1/6 and 1/8 clips respectively.
Jalen Suggs shot for 3/13.

Scottie lucky to be drafted by the raps and we’re lucky to draft him.

It is a perfect combination. Scottie wouldn't have developed and looked the way he has looked on another lottery team. Detroit, Houston, Orlando and Cleveland would've been horrible for his development, they'd be losing and getting blown out every night and he'd be surrounded by players who have never won in this league. Aside from the Washington dud in the season opener we have competed in every game (4-2) and in two of our four wins we've managed to blow the other team out. We compete every night and we've been doing so without our best player.

We are also extremely lucky to have a guy like Scottie because he fits the culture of this team perfectly. He gets after it on the defensive end, has an amazing work ethic and strong character. Not to mention his size, athleticism and feel for the game.

And1Skip · Post #417 » by **And1Skip** » Sun Oct 31, 2021 4:21 pm

aminiaturebuddha wrote:Do they do player of the month awards in October, considering it's a short month? If so, you'd think Scottie would have RoTM locked up after last night, with comparatively lesser games from Mobley and Duarte.

I’m pretty sure they combine October and November. I recall Nick Nurse winning CoTM for Oct/Nov in both 2018 and 2019

Los_29 · Post #418 » by **Los_29** » Sun Oct 31, 2021 4:25 pm

Ell Curry wrote:
Indeed wrote:
PrinceAli wrote:No. Love Mobley and think he’s gonna be great. But I prefer a guy like Barnes cause he do basically do everything and is the true image of positionless basketball. Also love the locker room intangibles and energy he brings

I know some would do it, but I personally would not

I think we may build the team in a different way.
Mobley will need ball handlers with passing around him, so we may keep Lowry. Our whole off-season could be different.

Regardless, there is no point in swapping Barnes and Mobley.

No idea which will be better. Mobley looks (and his numbers resemble those of) AD and Scottie's numbers resemble a 3rd year (1 year older than Scottie) Giannis with the obvious caveat that Giannis was improving from way behind a polished high school age player in Scottie. So if Scottie is a 90% Giannis and Mobley a 100% AD that's probably about the same level?

It's tough not to look at their context and think both teams would be better. Cleveland has bigs and needs wings and the Raptors need a 5:

Mobley
Siakam
OG
Trent
Van Vleet

just looks like it would be so classically solid once Mobley becomes a 20+ guy and a high post hub as a passer. Defensively you have 5 guys you'd expect to be above average guarding their positions.

Allen
Markannen
Barnes
Sexton
Garland

Suddenly Cleveland's frontcourt makes sense defensively and they still have 3 shooters surrounding Barnes and he gets a lob threat so he might even have more room to work than he does in the mid-range/in close as he does in Toronto.

Scottie's ceiling is higher than Mobley's and Scottie's game fits in better with what we are trying to do which is play position less basketball. I love Mobley's game though and he's going to be a stud. But the more I watch Mobley and Scottie, the more I think Masai might've actually had Scottie #1 on his draft board.

Stromile12 · Post #419 » by **Stromile12** » Sun Oct 31, 2021 4:33 pm

SCOTTIE BARNES ERA

Bruin · Post #420 » by **Bruin** » Sun Oct 31, 2021 4:47 pm

If he maintains these averages and we are sitting at a top 6 seed, it could happen I suppose. Long shot tho

Looking at the Eastern all stars last year, we could say that Simmons and Kyrie are probably out. Possibly Sabonis too if they’re sitting at the bottom of the standings

Trae Young will be added for sure. probably Demar and Bam too. Gonna be really tough. Last rookie to do it was Blake Griffin

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