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Official Raptors 2012 NBA Draft Thread, Part 5

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Whom do you want the Raptors to select in the 2012 NBA draft?

Anthony Davis
42
29%
Harrison Barnes
34
24%
Andre Drummond
7
5%
Perry Jones
2
1%
Michael Kidd-Gilchrist
22
15%
Quincy Miller
5
3%
Jeremy Lamb
23
16%
Jared Sullinger
1
1%
Bradley Beal
3
2%
Other
4
3%
 
Total votes: 143

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Re: Official Raptors 2012 NBA Draft Thread, Part 5 

Post#461 » by Rapsfan07 » Wed Feb 8, 2012 1:52 am

^^^ That's my issue with MKG. I think him and Johnson are a bit to similar in that the bring pretty much the same things to the table.

I'd rather swing for the fences on a potential All-Star. That's my opinion though
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Re: Official Raptors 2012 NBA Draft Thread, Part 5 

Post#462 » by fredericklove » Wed Feb 8, 2012 1:52 am

Condi Rice wrote:Serious questions here, as I haven't been following college basketball that closely.

Does MKG have a better jumper than James Johnson? What are the differences between MKG and James Johnson?


shooting wise, MKG has better form, defense wise, MKG doesnt gamble, hes all about fundamentals, JJ has awful form and gambles alot on D but not that good at man to man D at times, hes just really really good on weak-side help
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Re: Official Raptors 2012 NBA Draft Thread, Part 5 

Post#463 » by Pseudonym » Wed Feb 8, 2012 1:52 am

Condi Rice wrote:Serious questions here, as I haven't been following college basketball that closely.

Does MKG have a better jumper than James Johnson? What are the differences between MKG and James Johnson?
Ball IQ, finishing ability , rebounding, leadership/winning mentality,
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Re: Official Raptors 2012 NBA Draft Thread, Part 5 

Post#464 » by 5DOM » Wed Feb 8, 2012 1:54 am

AND MKG is 6 years younger than James Johnson
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Re: Official Raptors 2012 NBA Draft Thread, Part 5 

Post#465 » by Marlo Stanfield » Wed Feb 8, 2012 1:55 am

You can draft MKG and still keep James, there's nothing wrong with having two guys like that.
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Re: Official Raptors 2012 NBA Draft Thread, Part 5 

Post#466 » by Steely Reserve » Wed Feb 8, 2012 1:57 am

fredericklove wrote:I can see MKG lobs to Val 3-5 times a game.

You're finally getting it.

Listen to me, I've been sharing the light with you all for two years now. If you let me build it, the wins will come.
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Re: Official Raptors 2012 NBA Draft Thread, Part 5 

Post#467 » by Crazy-Canuck » Wed Feb 8, 2012 1:58 am

Condi Rice wrote:Serious questions here, as I haven't been following college basketball that closely.

Does MKG have a better jumper than James Johnson? What are the differences between MKG and James Johnson?


JJ was more of a power Sf who is doing his damage as an overaged player.

MKG is one of the youngest players in the nation and has taken on the leadership role as a freshman. The kid is a winner, pure and simple.
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Re: Official Raptors 2012 NBA Draft Thread, Part 5 

Post#468 » by sunny » Wed Feb 8, 2012 2:01 am

Steely Reserve wrote:Listen to me, I've been sharing the light with you all for two years now. If you let me build it, the wins will come.
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Re: Official Raptors 2012 NBA Draft Thread, Part 5 

Post#469 » by ATLTimekeeper » Wed Feb 8, 2012 2:05 am

Teague played well.
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Post#470 » by Live Free » Wed Feb 8, 2012 2:06 am

Condi Rice wrote:Serious questions here, as I haven't been following college basketball that closely.

Does MKG have a better jumper than James Johnson? What are the differences between MKG and James Johnson?


dude your sig thread is a lol-fest, we need a bring back Mustard_Tiger petition.
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Post#471 » by fredericklove » Wed Feb 8, 2012 2:08 am

This is for Singh, first half recap is written in couple pages earlier

2nd half game recap


Davis overall stat - 16 pts, 8 of 13 FG, 6 (1 off) reb, 2 stl and 4 blk

- its all lob party, easy shots, gets most of the points on alleyoop
- 1 shot off the pull up jumper
- defensively, didnt rebound well this game but had 2 or 3 amazing rebound in traffic
- defensively, big time block on Beal.
- had so much impact in all areas, played good D in the paint, even good perimeter D on Beal couple times,

MKG overall stat - 13 pts, 4 of 8 FG, 5 of 5 FT, 13 (4 off) reb, 3 asts

- execute the offense well (slash and lobs it up twice to Davis and TJ I think)
- plays under poise, let his teammates score cos they were scoring efficiently, only scored 3 pts in 2nd half
- did a delicious spin move on Beal to draw and 1
- knows his role, just staying in front of his man

Beal overall stat - 14 pts, 5 of 15 FG, 1 of 7 FT, 3 of 4 FT, 6 (2 off) reb, 3 ast, 1 stl

- didnt have a good second half
- shots were off
- but showed flashes of penetrating ability, cuts to the lane really well
- absorbs contact really well
- just a tough night cos of the kentucky defense
- always anticipate where to get rebound
- did okay job defending
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Re: Official Raptors 2012 NBA Draft Thread, Part 5 

Post#472 » by fredericklove » Wed Feb 8, 2012 2:11 am

Steely Reserve wrote:
fredericklove wrote:I can see MKG lobs to Val 3-5 times a game.

You're finally getting it.

Listen to me, I've been sharing the light with you all for two years now. If you let me build it, the wins will come.


Steely, you are ignorant again, I was already a die hard MKG fan long before you declare your hard on wet testicle love for MKG. Let you build PJ3 as 1st pick overall right, that will get any team anywhere lol.
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Re: Official Raptors 2012 NBA Draft Thread, Part 5 

Post#473 » by sunny » Wed Feb 8, 2012 2:13 am

sunny wrote:
Steely Reserve wrote:Listen to me, I've been sharing the light with you all for two years now. If you let me build it, the wins will come.

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Re: Official Raptors 2012 NBA Draft Thread, Part 5 

Post#474 » by Mr.Raptorsingh » Wed Feb 8, 2012 2:15 am

fredericklove wrote:This is for Singh, first half recap is written in couple pages earlier

2nd half game recap


Davis overall stat - 16 pts, 8 of 13 FG, 6 (1 off) reb, 2 stl and 4 blk

- its all lob party, easy shots, gets most of the points on alleyoop
- 1 shot off the pull up jumper
- defensively, didnt rebound well this game but had 2 or 3 amazing rebound in traffic
- defensively, big time block on Beal.
- had so much impact in all areas, played good D in the paint, even good perimeter D on Beal couple times,

MKG overall stat - 13 pts, 4 of 8 FG, 5 of 5 FT, 13 (4 off) reb, 3 asts

- execute the offense well (slash and lobs it up twice to Davis and TJ I think)
- plays under poise, let his teammates score cos they were scoring efficiently, only scored 3 pts in 2nd half
- did a delicious spin move on Beal to draw and 1
- knows his role, just staying in front of his man

Beal overall stat - 14 pts, 5 of 15 FG, 1 of 7 FT, 3 of 4 FT, 6 (2 off) reb, 3 ast, 1 stl

- didnt have a good second half
- shots were off
- but showed flashes of penetrating ability, cuts to the lane really well
- absorbs contact really well
- just a tough night cos of the kentucky defense
- always anticipate where to get rebound
- did okay job defending


Thanks for the recap for all those who couldn't watch it. Fortunately, I caught most, if not all, of the 2nd half. I'm still liking Beal quite a bit. His jumpshot was off, but we know he's a good shooter from scouting reports.
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Re: Official Raptors 2012 NBA Draft Thread, Part 5 

Post#475 » by JN » Wed Feb 8, 2012 2:19 am

Since the poll is a bit flawed as some probably assume we are not going to get the 1 or 2 pick, we should do some sort of board power ranking.

Do your top seven players that you would like for the Raptors highest to lowest (assume all players under discussion declare). Assuming we are top 10 pick, team should have to go farther then seven down to get a player. I will accumulate the score in a few days.

1. Anthony Davis
2. MKG
3. Harrison Barnes
4. Andre Drummond (too much potential to push too far down)
5. Perry Jones
6. Thomas Robinson
7. Quincy Miller

Remember this is not necessarily who you think will go as top seven in the draft. Just the seven best prospects if you were drafting for the Raptors
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Re: Official Raptors 2012 NBA Draft Thread, Part 5 

Post#476 » by Mr.Raptorsingh » Wed Feb 8, 2012 2:28 am

JN wrote:Since the poll is a bit flawed as some probably assume we are not going to get the 1 or 2 pick, we should do some sort of board power ranking.

Do your top seven players that you would like for the Raptors highest to lowest (assume all players under discussion declare). Assuming we are top 10 pick, team should have to go farther then seven down to get a player. I will accumulate the score in a few days.

1. Anthony Davis
2. MKG
3. Harrison Barnes
4. Andre Drummond (too much potential to push too far down)
5. Perry Jones
6. Thomas Robinson
7. Quincy Miller


1. Anthony Davis
2. Harrison Barnes
3. Michael Kidd-Gilchrist
4. Bradley Beal
5. Thomas Robinson
6. Perry Jones
7. Andre Drummond
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Post#477 » by ATLTimekeeper » Wed Feb 8, 2012 2:31 am

I flip-flop a lot between Barnes and Kidd-Gilchrist. I like Kidd-Gilchrist better, but I think they'll both be about the same level of player and I think Barnes fits better now. So, the list.

1) Anthony Davis
2) Harrison Barnes
3) Michael Kidd-Gilchrist
4) Jared Sullinger
5) Perry Jones III
6) Jeremy Lamb
7) Thomas Robinson
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Post#478 » by Steely Reserve » Wed Feb 8, 2012 2:36 am

JN wrote:Since the poll is a bit flawed as some probably assume we are not going to get the 1 or 2 pick, we should do some sort of board power ranking.

Do your top seven players that you would like for the Raptors highest to lowest (assume all players under discussion declare). Assuming we are top 10 pick, team should have to go farther then seven down to get a player. I will accumulate the score in a few days.

1. Anthony Davis
2. MKG
3. Harrison Barnes
4. Andre Drummond (too much potential to push too far down)
5. Perry Jones
6. Thomas Robinson
7. Quincy Miller

Remember this is not necessarily who you think will go as top seven in the draft. Just the seven best prospects if you were drafting for the Raptors

This is how the Raps board should look like:

1. MKG
2. Anthony Davis
3. Perry Jones
4. Jared Sullinger
5. Thomas Robinson
6. Harrison Barnes
7. Quincy Miller
8. Andre Drummond
9. Bradley Beal
10. Jeremy Lamb
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Re: Official Raptors 2012 NBA Draft Thread, Part 5 

Post#479 » by ty123 » Wed Feb 8, 2012 2:36 am

Brad Beal Quincy Miller Terrence Ross Austin Rivers all need to be considered as well.
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Re: Official Raptors 2012 NBA Draft Thread, Part 5 

Post#480 » by JN » Wed Feb 8, 2012 2:40 am

ty123 wrote:Brad Beal Quincy Miller Terrence Ross Austin Rivers all need to be considered as well.


We will go ten deep next time -- I trust Jose will lead us to a late lotto pick.

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