OT: WOJ: Anthony Davis requests trade; no intention of resigning with Pelicans

raptors2019 · Post #481 » by **raptors2019** » Mon Jan 28, 2019 7:25 pm

Raptors Realtor wrote:Not sure if this has been posted, but apparently the Pels want Ball, Kuzma, Zubac and a 1st from the Lakers...

https://www.thescore.com/nba/news/1706504/amp

Thats it? Magic must be smiling right now and ready to pull the trigger

Mr.Raptorsingh · Post #482 » by **Mr.Raptorsingh** » Mon Jan 28, 2019 7:26 pm

LBJKB24MJ23 wrote:
Mr.Raptorsingh wrote:Masai 'bout to flip Valanciunas, OG, Siakam into Anthonio Davis.

Antonio Davis?

Anthonio, yes.

NotMyKawhi · Post #483 » by **NotMyKawhi** » Mon Jan 28, 2019 7:27 pm

HeadtopChunes wrote:
Several teams told ESPN that they're already weighing the possibility of making offers for Davis, including contenders who'd be willing to use Davis to chase a championship this season and perhaps recoup assets lost in a trade to New Orleans by flipping Davis at auction after the season -- or keeping him into the final year of his contract.

http://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/25868546/anthony-davis-told-new-orleans-pelicans-re-sign

Sounds like us

1) we are all in this season - "use him for one playoff run"

2) recoup assets by trading him again- "kawhi left"

This is so us! No other team competing for a championship would go all in for this season.

mtcan · Post #484 » by **mtcan** » Mon Jan 28, 2019 7:29 pm

Red_Claw wrote:
hype_2004 wrote:
Red_Claw wrote:Worst case scenario for the Raps is if the clips make an offer.

Harris + Gortat + Bradley + Harrell + SGA + FRP
For
Davis + Hill + Moore + Miller

Kawhi Is definitly gone if Davis is in a clips uniform.

Kawhi and Davis could sign for the Clips together next off season but this the now. The only thing that matters to is Raps fans is this year whatever happens after that will not matter if we go all the way to the NBA finals. We can rebuild after this season but **** I'll mortgage the future if we can somehow go all the way. Masais loyalty is to winning, and we will be in prime position if we can somehow trade for Davis this season. The lineup of Lowry, Green, Kawhi, AD and JV is championship material!

Wrong.

Davis is under contract next season. If Clips get him this season, it will make the the decision to join them MUCH easier.

A bunch of expiring contracts for SGA, Harrell and a FRP that is guaranteed to suck if Davis goes to the Clippers is not the best deal available.

Lord_Zedd · Post #485 » by **Lord_Zedd** » Mon Jan 28, 2019 7:29 pm

Raptors Realtor wrote:Not sure if this has been posted, but apparently the Pels want Ball, Kuzma, Zubac and a 1st from the Lakers...

https://www.thescore.com/nba/news/1706504/amp

Lakers better be making the call to Adam Silver to finalize that trade.

That's a typical Dell Demps move which gets GMs fired from teams - except the Pelicans. Unfortunately there's no David Stern to slap him silly anymore....

Scott Hall · Post #486 » by **Scott Hall** » Mon Jan 28, 2019 7:29 pm

So the Pels want Kuzma and a poo poo platter this can't be true

mtcan · Post #487 » by **mtcan** » Mon Jan 28, 2019 7:30 pm

Lord_Zedd wrote:
Raptors Realtor wrote:Not sure if this has been posted, but apparently the Pels want Ball, Kuzma, Zubac and a 1st from the Lakers...

https://www.thescore.com/nba/news/1706504/amp

Lakers better be making the call to Adam Silver to finalize that trade.

That's a typical Dell Demps move which gets GMs fired from teams - except the Pelicans

If I'm the Pels...it should be Kuzma, Ingram, Zubac and first round pick. Ball is not worth much

Post #488 » by **niQ** » Mon Jan 28, 2019 7:36 pm

Yeezus_ wrote:
niQ wrote:
LoveMyRaps wrote:
https://www.betonline.ag/sportsbook/futures-and-props/nba-specials

It's happening!!!

We are still 6th though, just 4th on the list lol

I think just being on the list is crazy. Still wish we chased harder for Jimmy Butler.

Boogie! · Post #489 » by **Boogie!** » Mon Jan 28, 2019 7:36 pm

RapsAndJays21 wrote:
S ID wrote:
Boogie! wrote:How do we make contracts work. Siakam, fvv, Norman plus picks? Or jv, anunoby, fvv plus picks?

http://www.espn.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=ybzoxrsl

We only get better by 1 win. Would not do.

The thing about that trade is we have no bench bigs.

Who are we gonna play Delon, Norm, miles and who? Unless you move ibaka to bench but then who's the starting 4 and backup 4

PhilBlackson · Post #490 » by **PhilBlackson** » Mon Jan 28, 2019 7:37 pm

NOP needs to fire Demps before he has a chance to f*ck this up royally.

Ingram, Kuzma, Hart and a 1st should be mandatory....doing it for dogsh*t Ball with his loudmouth father and no jumper plus no Ingram or Hart, wtf is he thinking??? Surely Pascal, OG, Delon, FRP is comparible and arguably better...

Johnny Bball · Post #491 » by **Johnny Bball** » Mon Jan 28, 2019 7:41 pm

Lord_Zedd wrote:
Raptors Realtor wrote:Not sure if this has been posted, but apparently the Pels want Ball, Kuzma, Zubac and a 1st from the Lakers...

https://www.thescore.com/nba/news/1706504/amp

Lakers better be making the call to Adam Silver to finalize that trade.

That's a typical Dell Demps move which gets GMs fired from teams - except the Pelicans. Unfortunately there's no David Stern to slap him silly anymore....

Demps should be fired before he makes this this is true and should be fired for dealing with the Lakers period.

SFour · Post #492 » by **SFour** » Mon Jan 28, 2019 7:41 pm

Raptors are slowly shooting up the rankings on betting sites https://mybookie.ag/sportsbook/nba/specials

ANTHONY DAVIS TEAM ON FEB 8, 2019
Wager Cut Off: 2019 4th February 12:00 PM

New Orleans -200
Toronto +500
LA Lakers +600
LA Clippers +700
Brooklyn +1000
Houston +1200
Oklahoma City +1200
Boston +1500
The Field +300

Zeno · Post #493 » by **Zeno** » Mon Jan 28, 2019 7:42 pm

Boogie! wrote:
RapsAndJays21 wrote:
S ID wrote:http://www.espn.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=ybzoxrsl

We only get better by 1 win. Would not do.

The thing about that trade is we have no bench bigs.

Who are we gonna play Delon, Norm, miles and who? Unless you move ibaka to bench but then who's the starting 4 and backup 4

Boucher and get back Bruno at all costs. lol

tdotrep2 · Post #494 » by **tdotrep2** » Mon Jan 28, 2019 7:42 pm

PhilBlackson wrote:NOP needs to fire Demps before he has a chance to f*ck this up royally.

Ingram, Kuzma, Hart and a 1st should be mandatory....doing it for dogsh*t Ball with his loudmouth father and no jumper plus no Ingram or Hart, wtf is he thinking??? Surely Pascal, OG, Delon, FRP is comparible and arguably better...

It is better and it also sticks it to the lakers at the same time. I think we have a real shot here.

Uncle Dennis · Post #495 » by **Uncle Dennis** » Mon Jan 28, 2019 7:43 pm

SFour wrote:Raptors are slowly shooting up the rankings on betting sites https://mybookie.ag/sportsbook/nba/specials

What in tarnation, why are we so high? It's strange because just below that it says bets for where Davis lands on Nov 1 2020, and Boston leads the odds. Probably because they are not confident in the Raptors ability to retain him? Nonetheless, it's still only a 17 percent chance they're giving us, better than nothing though, lol.

sidsid · Post #496 » by **sidsid** » Mon Jan 28, 2019 7:43 pm

Boogie! wrote:
RapsAndJays21 wrote:
S ID wrote:http://www.espn.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=ybzoxrsl

We only get better by 1 win. Would not do.

The thing about that trade is we have no bench bigs.

Who are we gonna play Delon, Norm, miles and who? Unless you move ibaka to bench but then who's the starting 4 and backup 4

If we make an AD trade, we automatically become an attractive buy-out team.

I haven't paid attention to the potential buy out candidates because of our depth, but PF/C hybrid is the defenite target.

Mr.Raptorsingh · Post #497 » by **Mr.Raptorsingh** » Mon Jan 28, 2019 7:44 pm

xavis wrote:
SFour wrote:Raptors are slowly shooting up the rankings on betting sites https://mybookie.ag/sportsbook/nba/specials

What in tarnation, why are we so high? It's strange because just below that it says bets for where Davis lands on Nov 1 2020, and Boston leads the odds. Probably because they are not confident in the Raptors ability to retain him?

It's because they know Masai will make it happen.

Fairview4Life · Post #498 » by **Fairview4Life** » Mon Jan 28, 2019 7:45 pm

SFour wrote:Raptors are slowly shooting up the rankings on betting sites https://mybookie.ag/sportsbook/nba/specials

ANTHONY DAVIS TRADED BEFORE THE 2019 DEADLINE?
Wager Cut Off: 2019 4th February 12:00 PM

New Orleans -200
Toronto +500
LA Lakers +600
LA Clippers +700
Brooklyn +1000
Houston +1200
Oklahoma City +1200
Boston +1500
The Field +300

I have never written HO MAN before, but I am currently feelin' it.

This also just means that money is being bet on the Raptors through that one specific site. Which is good, but also not necessarily indicative of anything. BUT STILL!

Johnny Bball · Post #499 » by **Johnny Bball** » Mon Jan 28, 2019 7:45 pm

SFour wrote:Raptors are slowly shooting up the rankings on betting sites https://mybookie.ag/sportsbook/nba/specials

ANTHONY DAVIS TRADED BEFORE THE 2019 DEADLINE?
Wager Cut Off: 2019 4th February 12:00 PM

New Orleans -200
Toronto +500
LA Lakers +600
LA Clippers +700
Brooklyn +1000
Houston +1200
Oklahoma City +1200
Boston +1500
The Field +300

Why do I get the feeling this is based on an online algorithm that looks for chat based on the team and davis.

brownbobcat · Post #500 » by **brownbobcat** » Mon Jan 28, 2019 7:46 pm

sidsid wrote:The game theory element should still lead the Pels to aggressively shop AD at the deadline.

Why would AD's camp leak that he wants to leave now if he preferred the Celtics as a destination?

His camp knows that the Celtics have the likely best offer this offseason so if he was fine with that outcome he would have played out this year in silence. So not only does he not prefer that destination, you can infer that he explicitly wants to avoid it as the Celtics are not a trading option now.

Of course, Ainge can make this same logical analysis; so why would the Celtics make a godfather offer draining their team of assets for a player who is already signalling he isn't that interested?

The Celtics have the option of not being in win-now mode and may even lose Kyrie this offseason. There is no guarantee that the they would make that big offer with the available Intel.

Meanwhile, AD is now an expiring contract instead of 2 years as he is now, and the win now teams are even less motivated (or some like us, will have missed our window).

A big gamble.

It's definitely intriguing - what is the ideal endgame for AD here?

1. Boston has the best assets, but AD can't go to Boston this year and just made an offseason trade there more difficult.
2. Many signs pointing to LA - but it will also be a tough for them in the playoffs this year with limited depth.
3. Outwardly, this looks like LA trying to force New Orleans' hand into accepting a lowball offer - but this could also leave the door open for a team like Toronto that has some assets and is willing to go all-in this year.