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Re: Official Immanuel Quickley Thread 

Post#521 » by manjusaka » Fri Jan 12, 2024 2:51 pm

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jepjep wrote:IQ is legit. Other than his height, I can’t find any negative. I was at the clippers game and only he and RJ kept the team in the game until clippers hit those 3s in the fourth to take the lead for good. He and Barnes should sit down and learn to play with each other. They’ll win more games if they work off each other. IQ and RJ already have the chemistry and it shows in games.


Yep.

Scottie needs to set harder screens to free up IQ and IQ needs to be more bold and make the pass even if it’s a tight window and trust Scottie to catch it.


Barnes needs to stop slipping on screens. He was much better when he set hard screens. He can even pop to the 3 point line at times. We haven't really had him set hard screens since we got Poeltl. Right now he sets brush screens to get the switch but his team is terrible at getting the ball to him on the roll so it ends up with a nothing play. He's also too quick to slip.

There are two things this team really needs to work on - the initiators being better making quick passes off the pick and Barnes at setting screens to free up his shooters with the intention of there being multiple options.


On paper BBQ should work really well, they all can attack the basket, shoot the 3, and find the open teammates. It might need some time for Scottie to fit with IQ and RJ. Maybe it’s because of the road trip, but I think the coaching staff should design some sets for the trio.
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Re: Official Immanuel Quickley Thread 

Post#522 » by ___Rand___ » Fri Jan 12, 2024 7:03 pm

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I hope he is offered and accepts the 5/$125 he was seeking from the knicks. Maybe put some team and individual bonuses in if he is looking for more.


I hope FO makes a 5 year offer. I don't see the logic in these 4 years offers except for trade availability which is not worth it IMO. For young players 5th year is a bargain. when we don't use that 5th year it becomes rather expensive with the next contract.
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Re: Official Immanuel Quickley Thread 

Post#523 » by AbC? » Fri Jan 12, 2024 7:12 pm

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I hope he is offered and accepts the 5/$125 he was seeking from the knicks. Maybe put some team and individual bonuses in if he is looking for more.


I hope FO makes a 5 year offer. I don't see the logic in these 4 years offers except for trade availability which is not worth it IMO. For young players 5th year is a bargain. when we don't use that 5th year it becomes rather expensive with the next contract.


It’s a virtual certainty Masai’s going to give him a 4 year deal with a player option. Essentially a 3 year deal. Hands them out like candy.
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Re: Official Immanuel Quickley Thread 

Post#524 » by cgf » Fri Jan 12, 2024 7:14 pm

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jepjep wrote:IQ is legit. Other than his height, I can’t find any negative. I was at the clippers game and only he and RJ kept the team in the game until clippers hit those 3s in the fourth to take the lead for good. He and Barnes should sit down and learn to play with each other. They’ll win more games if they work off each other. IQ and RJ already have the chemistry and it shows in games.


Fortunately, his height isn’t a negative if he’s playing PG and thus far he has shown he can do it (he also has a 6’8” wingspan). I would be less excited about a 6’3” combo guard with limited playmaking skills.


His height really isn't an issue. IQ defends up very well and had success even when he found himself switched onto forwards...there's a reason he ended up playing 29mpg for us last season and closed most games next to Brunson, Hart, Randle, and Mitch/IH. IQ isn't a traditional PG, but that's a non-issue to me also. He's not a ballhog or selfish player, who started to figure out how to run an offense towards the end of his sophomore year and has been getting progressively better ever since.

Honestly the only thing that made me peg his ceilings as "just" a 3rd option was that he doesn't get to & finish at the rim like the cream of the crop guards do. That said, he's made progress in that area as well and certainly picked some things up from Brunson, so he may still add top-tier rim-pressure to his bag...and even if he doesn't, with his float-game & foul-baiting, he's already plenty dangerous when he penetrates.

Sucks that Masai wouldn't settle for RJ & a couple FRPs, cause I would've been thrilled to pay IQ 25-30M per to stay and share the guard minutes with Brunson & Grimes...but I'm really happy for Quickley to get the chance to start that he deserves, he & RJ are both just so easy to root for even if they're no longer on my favorite team.
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Re: Official Immanuel Quickley Thread 

Post#525 » by ___Rand___ » Fri Jan 12, 2024 7:16 pm

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ArthurVandelay wrote:
I hope he is offered and accepts the 5/$125 he was seeking from the knicks. Maybe put some team and individual bonuses in if he is looking for more.


I hope FO makes a 5 year offer. I don't see the logic in these 4 years offers except for trade availability which is not worth it IMO. For young players 5th year is a bargain. when we don't use that 5th year it becomes rather expensive with the next contract.


It’s a virtual certainty Masai’s going to give him a 4 year deal with a player option. Essentially a 3 year deal. Hands them out like candy.


I just don't get those moves. Don't do that unless you are ready to make a deal for a player. Because the cap keeps rising every year by the time 4th year comes around guess what - his salary is going to be much higher than had it been under the old cap. We aren't chasing Giannis no mo. Forget getting him. I don't want Giannis.
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Post#526 » by revvolutions » Fri Jan 12, 2024 9:34 pm

These two bring back the pound the rock mentality from the Knicks that we've needed as a now, young team.
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Re: Official Immanuel Quickley Thread 

Post#527 » by Boogie! » Fri Jan 12, 2024 11:16 pm

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Boogie! wrote:I think with the way this team is built, I still think siakam and Barnes and even Barrett should do more of the plstmakint. I like wuickley when his role is more just to score. Catch and shoot 3s, attacking off the catch or in mismatches. But idk if he’s best used as the playmaker/traditional point guard. I find he can’t beat his man off the dribble that well in 1 on 1 matchups, and he doesn’t have the natural feel/court vision of a traditional pg. he seems more like a combo guard type, which is fine next to someone like Scottie, but for those reasons I think he should play a little more off ball. It’s a waste of everyone’s skills to have Barrett Barnes and siakam all spotting up while wuickley tries to figure out how to set them up. Should be the other way around where wuickleysv3 point shot gives someone like siakam or Barnes the spacing they need


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Re: Official Immanuel Quickley Thread 

Post#528 » by PushDaRock » Fri Jan 12, 2024 11:29 pm

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ArthurVandelay wrote:
I hope he is offered and accepts the 5/$125 he was seeking from the knicks. Maybe put some team and individual bonuses in if he is looking for more.


I hope FO makes a 5 year offer. I don't see the logic in these 4 years offers except for trade availability which is not worth it IMO. For young players 5th year is a bargain. when we don't use that 5th year it becomes rather expensive with the next contract.


It’s a virtual certainty Masai’s going to give him a 4 year deal with a player option. Essentially a 3 year deal. Hands them out like candy.


In exchange, it's been for less AAV generally but yeah it's turned a lot of bargain deals into less great ones because of the shorter term.
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Re: Official Immanuel Quickley Thread 

Post#529 » by Dalek » Fri Jan 12, 2024 11:43 pm

Boogie! wrote:I think with the way this team is built, I still think siakam and Barnes and even Barrett should do more of the plstmakint. I like wuickley when his role is more just to score. Catch and shoot 3s, attacking off the catch or in mismatches. But idk if he’s best used as the playmaker/traditional point guard. I find he can’t beat his man off the dribble that well in 1 on 1 matchups, and he doesn’t have the natural feel/court vision of a traditional pg. he seems more like a combo guard type, which is fine next to someone like Scottie, but for those reasons I think he should play a little more off ball. It’s a waste of everyone’s skills to have Barrett Barnes and siakam all spotting up while wuickley tries to figure out how to set them up. Should be the other way around where wuickleysv3 point shot gives someone like siakam or Barnes the spacing they need


Quickley is pretty deserving of his usage and playmaking role. No one should be dancing on the perimeter trying to create, but in our system Quickley should be the primary ballhandler in pick and rolls.

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The above post is a bit dated, so currently, in pick and roll handler possessions (greater than 3 per game) he ranks 9th in the NBA in Effective FG% (58.8). The difference between him and Scottie is the shooting. IQ can pull-up off a pick and roll and hit a three before a close-out. He misses having Poeltl the past few games which has hurt some of his efficiency, but he is a deadly pick and roll handler.

IQ/Barnes pick and roll will be the best weapon we have in the future. I can't imagine a more deadly combo than that. Barnes can also have his share of post-ups and pull up threes, but as a roll man he could be really fun because he can pass so well or finish.

Barrett looks solid in catch and shoot and as a transition ballhandler- he can have more touches against benches.
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Re: Official Immanuel Quickley Thread 

Post#530 » by djsunyc » Fri Jan 12, 2024 11:49 pm

need yak back to create more space of quick.
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Post#532 » by WaltFrazier » Sat Jan 13, 2024 5:19 am

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Link to the entire thing. Impressive young man.

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Re: Official Immanuel Quickley Thread 

Post#533 » by LoveMyRaps » Sun Jan 14, 2024 1:06 am

Shooting 50% on 6 attempts per game from deep..

We finally got a sniper.
FEELS GOOD.

THE FUTURE IS BRIGHT.

Quickley will be our next Lowry.
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Post#534 » by OakleyDokely » Mon Jan 15, 2024 3:43 pm

7 games so far:

30.3 MIN, 18.6 PPG, 5.3 AST, 4.4 REB, 0.6 STL, .438 FG, .500 3PT, .862 FT, .598 TS, 23.3 USG
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Post#535 » by DatHomieYouHaTe » Tue Jan 16, 2024 2:38 am

A poor/homeless Tyrese Maxey.. Really bad at finishing at the rim for some reason. Good player never a great of course
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Post#536 » by bape_lovers » Tue Jan 16, 2024 2:55 am

In what way? Maxey has pretty much the same stats us IQ tonight?

DatHomieYouHaTe wrote:A poor/homeless Tyrese Maxey.. Really bad at finishing at the rim for some reason. Good player never a great of course
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Post#537 » by DatHomieYouHaTe » Tue Jan 16, 2024 3:20 am

bape_lovers wrote:In what way? Maxey has pretty much the same stats us IQ tonight?

DatHomieYouHaTe wrote:A poor/homeless Tyrese Maxey.. Really bad at finishing at the rim for some reason. Good player never a great of course



He hit 6 3's today.... He's younger, faster, can finish at the rim etc.. It's a poor version of the real deal which is ok I guess.. Let's hope we don't go crazy and give him too much money
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Re: Official Immanuel Quickley Thread 

Post#538 » by HiJiNX » Tue Jan 16, 2024 3:25 am

The ball sticks with him too much. He needs to look to be a setup man more than looking for his own shot sometimes.
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Re: Official Immanuel Quickley Thread 

Post#539 » by dozo » Tue Jan 16, 2024 3:28 am

DatHomieYouHaTe wrote:
bape_lovers wrote:In what way? Maxey has pretty much the same stats us IQ tonight?

DatHomieYouHaTe wrote:A poor/homeless Tyrese Maxey.. Really bad at finishing at the rim for some reason. Good player never a great of course



He hit 6 3's today.... He's younger, faster, can finish at the rim etc.. It's a poor version of the real deal which is ok I guess.. Let's hope we don't go crazy and give him too much money


I would wait until next year to see what IQ will be. KLow came off the bench his 1st year as a Raptor.

Maxey is special. Check out this dunk in traffic.

https://youtu.be/TVV6XywKGbw?si=5dKF_vqb2uQ4ux73
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Re: Official Immanuel Quickley Thread 

Post#540 » by aminiaturebuddha » Tue Jan 16, 2024 3:36 am

dozo wrote:
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bape_lovers wrote:In what way? Maxey has pretty much the same stats us IQ tonight?




He hit 6 3's today.... He's younger, faster, can finish at the rim etc.. It's a poor version of the real deal which is ok I guess.. Let's hope we don't go crazy and give him too much money


I would wait until next year to see what IQ will be. KLow came off the bench his 1st year as a Raptor.

Maxey is special. Check out this dunk in traffic.

https://youtu.be/TVV6XywKGbw?si=5dKF_vqb2uQ4ux73


Can't really wait until next year. He's a restricted free agent this off-season. They'll need to give him a contract of some sort. The question is how much and for how long.

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