Shams: Raps one of teams to pursue Anthony Davis

[YogurtProducer]

Ever since Stein reported that Rich Paul is high on the Hawks as the spot for AD to land, I've figured it's going to be them that ends up getting it done.

If I had to guess right now, I think Bobby's Plan B for the deadline after AD ends up on the Hawks is to figure out a way to bamboozle Scott Perry into reuniting with IQ and taking that contract off their hands (some kind of an IQ for Monk PG swap would be the base).

When you consider the teams where IQ would fit (Atlanta is one), then consider the teams not looking to take on long term money (Atlanta now out), there aren't many landing spots out there for him. Sacramento might fit the bill. I'd take Monk to get off IQ.

But why?

IQ is a better player than Monk, and trading IQ for Monk doesn't give us any meaningful flexibility to do anything else as he is still owed $19m/$20m/$21m over the next 3 years.

Not to mention, SAC has to somehow include $13.7M more to make the deal work.

[Psubs]

Ever since Stein reported that Rich Paul is high on the Hawks as the spot for AD to land, I've figured it's going to be them that ends up getting it done.

If I had to guess right now, I think Bobby's Plan B for the deadline after AD ends up on the Hawks is to figure out a way to bamboozle Scott Perry into reuniting with IQ and taking that contract off their hands (some kind of an IQ for Monk PG swap would be the base).

When you consider the teams where IQ would fit (Atlanta is one), then consider the teams not looking to take on long term money (Atlanta now out), there aren't many landing spots out there for him. Sacramento might fit the bill. I'd take Monk to get off IQ.

But why?

IQ is a better player than Monk, and trading IQ for Monk doesn't give us any meaningful flexibility to do anything else as he is still owed $19m/$20m/$21m over the next 3 years.

Not to mention, SAC has to somehow include $13.7M more to make the deal work.

Does IQ and Poeltl for Sabonis and Monk work as main players in a trade?

[YogurtProducer]

When you consider the teams where IQ would fit (Atlanta is one), then consider the teams not looking to take on long term money (Atlanta now out), there aren't many landing spots out there for him. Sacramento might fit the bill. I'd take Monk to get off IQ.

But why?

IQ is a better player than Monk, and trading IQ for Monk doesn't give us any meaningful flexibility to do anything else as he is still owed $19m/$20m/$21m over the next 3 years.

Not to mention, SAC has to somehow include $13.7M more to make the deal work.

Does IQ and Poeltl for Sabonis and Monk work as main players in a trade?

WE would need to send $9M more to SAC. So like Agbaji and Dick or something.

But again, why would we do that?

Monk/RJ/Ingram/Barnes/ Sabonis is not a better team. It now has 2 clear defensive targets in Monk and Sabonis, and it still costs $60M a year for Monk and Sabonis. And we shed 2 SG's on cheap deals to do it.

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But why?

IQ is a better player than Monk, and trading IQ for Monk doesn't give us any meaningful flexibility to do anything else as he is still owed $19m/$20m/$21m over the next 3 years.

Not to mention, SAC has to somehow include $13.7M more to make the deal work.

Does IQ and Poeltl for Sabonis and Monk work as main players in a trade?

WE would need to send $9M more to SAC. So like Agbaji and Dick or something.

But again, why would we do that?

Monk/RJ/Ingram/Barnes/ Sabonis is not a better team. It now has 2 clear defensive targets in Monk and Sabonis, and it still costs $60M a year for Monk and Sabonis. And we shed 2 SG's on cheap deals to do it.

https://stats.gleague.nba.com/player/1642935/

Glut of guards. Chucky is going to be the backup PG next season.

[ArthurVandelay]

Ever since Stein reported that Rich Paul is high on the Hawks as the spot for AD to land, I've figured it's going to be them that ends up getting it done.

If I had to guess right now, I think Bobby's Plan B for the deadline after AD ends up on the Hawks is to figure out a way to bamboozle Scott Perry into reuniting with IQ and taking that contract off their hands (some kind of an IQ for Monk PG swap would be the base).

When you consider the teams where IQ would fit (Atlanta is one), then consider the teams not looking to take on long term money (Atlanta now out), there aren't many landing spots out there for him. Sacramento might fit the bill. I'd take Monk to get off IQ.

But why?

IQ is a better player than Monk, and trading IQ for Monk doesn't give us any meaningful flexibility to do anything else as he is still owed $19m/$20m/$21m over the next 3 years.

Not to mention, SAC has to somehow include $13.7M more to make the deal work.

Getting off IQ opens up the MLE for the Raptors. They have too much money tied up in average to below average starters. As a whole IQ might be a better player than Monk, but Monk's strengths (isolation scoring and creation off the bounce) are IQ's weaknesses. Monk has been up and down over his career as a shooter but at his best he is just as good as IQ from deep.

[YogurtProducer]

Does IQ and Poeltl for Sabonis and Monk work as main players in a trade?

WE would need to send $9M more to SAC. So like Agbaji and Dick or something.

But again, why would we do that?

Monk/RJ/Ingram/Barnes/ Sabonis is not a better team. It now has 2 clear defensive targets in Monk and Sabonis, and it still costs $60M a year for Monk and Sabonis. And we shed 2 SG's on cheap deals to do it.

https://stats.gleague.nba.com/player/1642935/

Glut of guards. Chucky is going to be the backup PG next season.

We really do not have a glut of guards lol.

We have IQ and Shead (and Shead has a 49TS% lol).
At the 2 we got RJ and then Dick/JKW/Ochai who take turns going from unplayable to moderately productive.

And Chucky is averaging 12/8 in the G-League. That is not good enough to even think he can be an NBA roster player let alone a backup PG.

[YogurtProducer]

When you consider the teams where IQ would fit (Atlanta is one), then consider the teams not looking to take on long term money (Atlanta now out), there aren't many landing spots out there for him. Sacramento might fit the bill. I'd take Monk to get off IQ.

But why?

IQ is a better player than Monk, and trading IQ for Monk doesn't give us any meaningful flexibility to do anything else as he is still owed $19m/$20m/$21m over the next 3 years.

Not to mention, SAC has to somehow include $13.7M more to make the deal work.

Getting off IQ opens up the MLE for the Raptors. They have too much money tied up in average to below average starters. As a whole IQ might be a better player than Monk, but Monk's strengths (isolation scoring and creation off the bounce) are IQ's weaknesses. Monk has been up and down over his career as a shooter but at his best he is just as good as IQ from deep.

IQ + Poeltl >>>>> Monk / Sabonis / MLE

We don't need IQ to be an isolation scorer when we got BI. We need high level 3 point shooting and a guy who is not a target defensively. Same with Sabonis. He just gives a massive hole for teams to attack.

[Son Goku 25]

Yeah I'd rather have IQ and Yak than the kings two.

[ArthurVandelay]

But why?

IQ is a better player than Monk, and trading IQ for Monk doesn't give us any meaningful flexibility to do anything else as he is still owed $19m/$20m/$21m over the next 3 years.

Not to mention, SAC has to somehow include $13.7M more to make the deal work.

Getting off IQ opens up the MLE for the Raptors. They have too much money tied up in average to below average starters. As a whole IQ might be a better player than Monk, but Monk's strengths (isolation scoring and creation off the bounce) are IQ's weaknesses. Monk has been up and down over his career as a shooter but at his best he is just as good as IQ from deep.

IQ + Poeltl >>>>> Monk / Sabonis / MLE

We don't need IQ to be an isolation scorer when we got BI. We need high level 3 point shooting and a guy who is not a target defensively. Same with Sabonis. He just gives a massive hole for teams to attack.

To be clear, that is your opinion. It is not fact. I'm not talking about Sabonis.

Ingram gets his shot off because of his length and he has to usually back people down to get to his spot. The Raptors don't have anyone who can explode past the defense and get to the rim off the bounce. Monk can very much do that.

Also, just a year ago, under Mike Brown, in another system, Monk was being credited for some pretty good defense and improvement overall:
https://www.nbcsportsbayarea.com/nba/sacramento-kings/malik-monk-defense-starting-lineup/1813805/

"People said I couldn’t guard so I’m showing people [I can].”

....

With Monk’s tenacious defense, the Kings have a lot of momentum to build on as they head toward the heart of the greuling NBA season.

Also, can you imagine sharing the court and playing D with LaVine, DeRozan, and Sabonis? LOL

[YogurtProducer]

Getting off IQ opens up the MLE for the Raptors. They have too much money tied up in average to below average starters. As a whole IQ might be a better player than Monk, but Monk's strengths (isolation scoring and creation off the bounce) are IQ's weaknesses. Monk has been up and down over his career as a shooter but at his best he is just as good as IQ from deep.

IQ + Poeltl >>>>> Monk / Sabonis / MLE

We don't need IQ to be an isolation scorer when we got BI. We need high level 3 point shooting and a guy who is not a target defensively. Same with Sabonis. He just gives a massive hole for teams to attack.

To be clear, that is your opinion. It is not fact. I'm not talking about Sabonis.

Ingram gets his shot off because of his length and he has to usually back people down to get to his spot. The Raptors don't have anyone who can explode past the defense and get to the rim off the bounce. Monk can very much do that.

Also, just a year ago, under Mike Brown, in another system, Monk was being credited for some pretty good defense and improvement overall:
https://www.nbcsportsbayarea.com/nba/sacramento-kings/malik-monk-defense-starting-lineup/1813805/

"People said I couldn’t guard so I’m showing people [I can].”

....

With Monk’s tenacious defense, the Kings have a lot of momentum to build on as they head toward the heart of the greuling NBA season.

Also, can you imagine sharing the court and playing D with LaVine, DeRozan, and Sabonis? LOL

Sure it is my opinion... but it is also a pretty widely accepted fact that Monk and Sabonis are both bad defenders. One quote from his coach trying to hype Monk up doesn't change that

Here is Darko saying Dick is doing a much better job defensively:

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Would yall rather trade for Trae or AD?

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Sidery sucks.

Quote from the Amick article "Any deal with Toronto would require Dallas to take back long-term contracts. The Mavericks, league sources say, would very likely require significant draft capital coming their way to make a deal of that nature".

[LoveMyRaps]

Sidery sucks.

Quote from the Amick article "Any deal with Toronto would require Dallas to take back long-term contracts. The Mavericks, league sources say, would very likely require significant draft capital coming their way to make a deal of that nature".

Oh man. Sidery is a clown. He always does this. Foolish of me to share his tweet.

[Zeno]

I don’t believe the Sabonis rumours at all beyond the Raptors always seem to guage the market on everyone like it is all some giant research project. But AD and Rich Paul seem to have an ongoing relationship and AD is an elite player with a depressed value right now. I don’t believe we have what it takes to get a deal done though as Dallas wants expirings likely. I see the possibility of us splitting IQ into Monk and Gafford as way more likely than an AD trade.

[Zeno]

Sidery sucks.

Quote from the Amick article "Any deal with Toronto would require Dallas to take back long-term contracts. The Mavericks, league sources say, would very likely require significant draft capital coming their way to make a deal of that nature".

Oh man. Sidery is a clown. He always does this. Foolish of me to share his tweet.

It isn’t his reporting though. He is basically just retweeting Amick.

[Raptorfan2012]

I don’t believe the Sabonis rumours at all beyond the Raptors always seem to guage the market on everyone like it is all some giant research project. But AD and Rich Paul seem to have an ongoing relationship and AD is an elite player with a depressed value right now. I don’t believe we have what it takes to get a deal done though as Dallas wants expirings likely. I see the possibility of us splitting IQ into Monk and Gafford as way more likely than an AD trade.

We have been apparently interested in Sabonis since last off-season...

[TorontoBarneys]

Yeah I'd rather have IQ and Yak than the kings two.

Yep. This team is significantly better with a healthy Poeltl and we aren't a bad team without him. I think baseline we should get an actual decent back-up C at the deadline and stand pat for the most part. A bit of patience is warranted in this situation and if we can get back to the playoffs this year, even if we lose in the 1st round, it's progress. BI will continue to get better as will Scottie and CMB, and Poeltl with back surgery should be good to go for the long-run.

Going after Trae could be a good movie but I'm not a fan of an AD trade at all. I think he's done within 2 years at most and would be more costly than Trae, who can be acquired for a moderate package.

There's a path here for us to be a genuine 50+ win team with 2nd round+ potential.

[LoveMyRaps]

Sidery sucks.

Quote from the Amick article "Any deal with Toronto would require Dallas to take back long-term contracts. The Mavericks, league sources say, would very likely require significant draft capital coming their way to make a deal of that nature".

Oh man. Sidery is a clown. He always does this. Foolish of me to share his tweet.

It isn’t his reporting though. He is basically just retweeting Amick.

Except nowhere in the article did Amick say AD would be open to a trade to Toronto.

[Zeno]

I don’t believe the Sabonis rumours at all beyond the Raptors always seem to guage the market on everyone like it is all some giant research project. But AD and Rich Paul seem to have an ongoing relationship and AD is an elite player with a depressed value right now. I don’t believe we have what it takes to get a deal done though as Dallas wants expirings likely. I see the possibility of us splitting IQ into Monk and Gafford as way more likely than an AD trade.

We have been apparently interested in Sabonis since last off-season...

There is interest and there is Interest. Can’t remember the exact wording but I recall something like ‘Raptors have a degree of interest in Sabonis’.