Official Scottie Barnes Thread 3

[Madhouse]

Still can’t get over Scottie’s performance. The man had 15 points, 10 rebounds, 8 assists, and 1 block with time left in the game in his playoff DEBUT. Think about how special that is.

Only 6 shots, pretty inexcusable if you ask me.

[TNRaps4life]

Still can’t get over Scottie’s performance. The man had 15 points, 10 rebounds, 8 assists, and 1 block with time left in the game in his playoff DEBUT. Think about how special that is.

Only 6 shots, pretty inexcusable if you ask me.

He has to demand the ball. He is no longer a rookie.

[Madhouse]

Still can’t get over Scottie’s performance. The man had 15 points, 10 rebounds, 8 assists, and 1 block with time left in the game in his playoff DEBUT. Think about how special that is.

Only 6 shots, pretty inexcusable if you ask me.

He has to demand the ball. He is no longer a rookie.

That sounds good in theory but why do you think the Bucks and Warriors made moves to make Giannis and Curry the focal point?

Because vets were in the way.

[niQ]

ROY Voting really going down to the wire.

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1KMzwRcilLDej0BWl7eYE_OYC9Tx9olI_Ptn-nHjKfpQ/htmlview?pru=AAABgD9efn4*Z5BmoDtXFMNnViSW2Um-2g#

Scottie currently ahead in Total points by 4.

[Madhouse]

https://www.nytimes.com/2022/04/19/sports/basketball/scottie-barnes-toronto-raptors.html

[tdotrep2]

Only 6 shots, pretty inexcusable if you ask me.

He has to demand the ball. He is no longer a rookie.

That sounds good in theory but why do you think the Bucks and Warriors made moves to make Giannis and Curry the focal point?

Because vets were in the way.

[Bruin]

Chris Broussard voted for Scottie. Mentions it in the first minute

Watch on YouTube

[LoveMyRaps]

Update: 7:07pm EST

Scottie Barnes:
1. Dan Devine
2. Stephen A Smith
3. Kendrick Perkins
4. Jared Greenberg
5. Doug Smith
6. Zach Harper
7. Mike Greenberg
8. Bill Simmons
9. Kevin O'Connor
10. Chris Kirschner
11. Howard Beck
12. Chris Herring
13. Doris Burke
14. Zach Lowe
15. Frank Isola
16. Eric Koreen
17. Gary Washburn
18. Mike Singer
19. Kelly Iko
20. Chris Broussard
21. Michael Wilbon

Evan Mobley:
1. Lisa Hsu (Not confirmed voter, but has voting history)
2. Bill Reiter (Not confirmed voter, but has voting history)
3. Kurt Helin
4. Eric Nehm
5. KC Johnson
6. Chris Mannix
7. Jalen Rose
8. Renjun Bao
9. Justin Termine
10. Steve Aschburner
11. Davide Chinellato
12. David Aldridge
13. Joe Vardon
14. Sam Amick
15. Josh Robbins
16. Anthony Chiang
17. Brian Windhorst
18. Tim Bontemps
19. Taylor Rooks
20. Chris Fedor


Cade Cunningham:
1. Ryan Russillo
2. Michael Pina
3. James Edwards III

TOTAL VOTES: 44 out of 100

Update: Two votes added - Both for Scottie. Chris Broussard and the GOAT Wilbon both came through.

[DG88]

Jeff Goodman thinks Barnes should be ROTY and impacted winning more so than Evan Mobley. He doesn't have an official vote.

https://www.nbcsports.com/video/toronto-raptors-scottie-barnes-jeff-goodmans-nba-rookie-year?amp

[DG88]

https://www.tsn.ca/radio/toronto-1050/ali-rendely-on-barnes-injury-the-timeline-for-his-recovery-and-more-1.1787642

[Los_29]

Only 6 shots, pretty inexcusable if you ask me.

He has to demand the ball. He is no longer a rookie.

That sounds good in theory but why do you think the Bucks and Warriors made moves to make Giannis and Curry the focal point?

Because vets were in the way.

Who did the Bucks and Warriors trade?

Middleton was there the whole time. The Bucks were awful in Giannis’ first couple of years there. Parker suffered a ton of injuries, Middleton emerged as a great player and obviously Giannis developed into a superstar. No vets were in the way unless you consider Brandon Knight in the way. lol.

Warriors were also absolutely terrible for Steph’s first three years there. They drafted Klay in 2010 (I think) and had Ellis in front of him for a year. Team was awful that year, traded him for Bogut, moved Klay into the starting lineup. The Warriors moved a bad, inefficient player who wasn’t contributing to winning. That’s far different than moving veterans that are actually good and contribute to winning.

No one is in Scottie’s way. If he’s not our #1 in the future then it’s because of him not his teammates.

[DG88]

Watch on YouTube

[prelude00]

When will they announce this award?

Edit :

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.nba.com/news/finalists-announced-for-2021-22-nba-awards%3famp=1

Looks like we'll get one a week maybe? But no exact date for each award

[DG88]

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[Clay Davis]

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[Bruin]

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[HumbleRen]

Will be a travesty if the pecking order hurts Scottie again next year. I want him to get used to being double teamed asap if this is the guy who's going to be our first option in the future.

[DG88]

Looks like they anticipate Barnes to play on Saturday for Game 4.

Raptors expect star rookie Barnes to play in Game 4

Down 3-0 in their series against the Philadelphia 76ers, the Toronto Raptors are expecting to have star rookie Scottie Barnes back for Saturday's must-win Game 4.


“We’ll have Scottie back on Saturday and another weapon to use,” Raptors head coach Nick Nurse said after Wednesday's overtime loss in Game 3.

https://www.tsn.ca/toronto-raptors-scottie-barnes-philadelphia-76ers-1.1788575?tsn-amp

[Madhouse]

Will be a travesty if the pecking order hurts Scottie again next year. I want him to get used to being double teamed asap if this is the guy who's going to be our first option in the future.

They need clear defined roles asap. It's not going to work with everyone staying on the team. I mean, no true big in the starting lineup and bringing 4 bigs off the bench? That's not a serious lineup. They need to either trade for someone like Gobert or start Achiuwa at the 5 for starters, Barnes is either the PG or forward meaning Siakam/Fred or both need to go to even make this a decent fit.

Not even speaking about the pecking order.

There needs to be a real concept behind it. Just giving Barnes the ball more really doesn't make sense.

[links135]

Will be a travesty if the pecking order hurts Scottie again next year. I want him to get used to being double teamed asap if this is the guy who's going to be our first option in the future.

They need clear defined roles asap. It's not going to work with everyone staying on the team. I mean, no true big in the starting lineup and bringing 4 bigs off the bench? That's not a serious lineup. They need to either trade for someone like Gobert or start Achiuwa at the 5 for starters, Barnes is either the PG or forward meaning Siakam/Fred or both need to go to even make this a decent fit.

Not even speaking about the pecking order.

There needs to be a real concept behind it. Just giving Barnes the ball more really doesn't make sense.

'Giving him the ball more' doesn't mean jacking up more shots.

This is what Van Vleet and Siakam have done to us and it's shown this playoffs.

Remember, Barnes is 2nd in Games next to Boucher this season. Barnes facilitates the offence to help give VV open looks if not directly, through other plays as he can make passes VV can't, as well as Siakam getting the ball with his defender moving that catches them off guard, as well as when Siakam ISO's, Barnes is a much better option to pass to inside than well, Birch.

Not to mention the guy has a game just ready for the playoffs.

Off a PNR, don't beat the guy who jumps out, but since he's smaller than Barnes, back him in slowly with many options to either score with a hook on either hand, or find a cutter or open person.

OG can't quite do that, VV can't do crap all on drives, GTR will take a midi pullup (which he's pretty good at) and Siakam for all his strengths, is more about beating his man cleanly.

It also hasn't helped GTjr has been sick the first 2 games.

Not to mention because Barnes can guard Harden, he also is much more free to crash the glass without worrying about getting back because he'd be guarding the ballhandler.