The Jonas Valanciunas Thread

DarkKnight · Post #621 » by **DarkKnight** » Fri Jun 24, 2011 2:18 am

Undefeated wrote:
DarkKnight wrote:No athletecism. No shotblocking instincts. Backup big man upside. AWFUL.

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TS_-RMKoX9Y&feature=youtube_gdata_player[/youtube]

Um, Val did finish those alley-oop plays. How does that explain he has no athleticism?

It's not that hard to cneak in a 2-hander, without bending your arms, when you're 7 feet. You only have to jump about 15 inches.

prototype · Post #622 » by **prototype** » Fri Jun 24, 2011 2:18 am

wtfbosh wrote:Cory Joseph!

Wrong thread buddy.

Komodo · Post #623 » by **Komodo** » Fri Jun 24, 2011 2:19 am

I couldn't be happier. Long term, his potential should have gotten him drafted in the top 3 or 4 without question. Cleveland will regret taking Thompson over Val.

Kabookalu · Post #624 » by **Kabookalu** » Fri Jun 24, 2011 2:19 am

DarkKnight wrote:No athletecism. No shotblocking instincts. Backup big man upside. AWFUL.

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TS_-RMKoX9Y&feature=youtube_gdata_player[/youtube]

So I was slowly coming to terms with the pick, and you just made me hate it all over again.

FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU

bigdirty · Post #625 » by **bigdirty** » Fri Jun 24, 2011 2:19 am

Tough Tony D wrote:
DarkKnight wrote:No athletecism. No shotblocking instincts. Backup big man upside. AWFUL.

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TS_-RMKoX9Y&feature=youtube_gdata_player[/youtube]

I wouldnt say awful, but he's not the rim protector, defensive center colangelo himself said we needed.

That video is great. I don't see any of the supposed upside people say he has. I see the same soft Bargnani-ish play that we don't need.

primecougar · Post #626 » by **primecougar** » Fri Jun 24, 2011 2:20 am

im starting to come around the pick. didnt really care about him because BC was hinting about knight/biyombo but he seems like a good rebunder/finsher.

not a bad pick considering how weak this draft is.

i will hate this pick if it means ed davis will be traded. after demar hes our best player

TorontoRapture · Post #627 » by **TorontoRapture** » Fri Jun 24, 2011 2:21 am

chickenmcnugget wrote:I hear he plays like chris bosh......thats who he compare himself with.

I like how when the TV commentator asked him how his game is similar to Bosh's, and Bargs 2.0 w/o a 3pt shot says..."I don't know".

Chosen Guard · Post #628 » by **Chosen Guard** » Fri Jun 24, 2011 2:21 am

the haters are going to bask and shower due to one negative video.

clockwork · Post #629 » by **clockwork** » Fri Jun 24, 2011 2:21 am

Choker wrote:
DarkKnight wrote:No athletecism. No shotblocking instincts. Backup big man upside. AWFUL.

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TS_-RMKoX9Y&feature=youtube_gdata_player[/youtube]

So I was slowly coming to terms with the pick, and you just made me hate it all over again.

FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU

One video is shown and all prior logical hard worked reasoning skills went out the window.

Morons.

Visceral · Post #630 » by **Visceral** » Fri Jun 24, 2011 2:22 am

bigdirty wrote:
Tough Tony D wrote:
DarkKnight wrote:No athletecism. No shotblocking instincts. Backup big man upside. AWFUL.

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TS_-RMKoX9Y&feature=youtube_gdata_player[/youtube]

I wouldnt say awful, but he's not the rim protector, defensive center colangelo himself said we needed.

That video is great. I don't see any of the supposed upside people say he has. I see the same soft Bargnani-ish play that we don't need.

Done with this thread for now. I don't want any warnings.

Kabookalu · Post #631 » by **Kabookalu** » Fri Jun 24, 2011 2:23 am

clockwork wrote:One video is shown and all prior logical hard worked reasoning skills went out the window.

Morons.

Well that's because my logical hard working reasoning skills actually kicked into gear. What was at work before was my imagination hoping that Val would somehow turn into Pau Gasol.

Post #632 » by **Undefeated** » Fri Jun 24, 2011 2:23 am

DarkKnight wrote:
Undefeated wrote:
DarkKnight wrote:No athletecism. No shotblocking instincts. Backup big man upside. AWFUL.

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TS_-RMKoX9Y&feature=youtube_gdata_player[/youtube]

Um, Val did finish those alley-oop plays. How does that explain he has no athleticism?

It's not that hard to cneak in a 2-hander, without bending your arms, when you're 7 feet. You only have to jump about 15 inches.

Yet Bargnani can hardly finish an alley-oop play. Val is athletic relative to his 7 foot frame and there are more clips out there that show Val to be more athletic.

PHANTOMPHOENIX · Post #633 » by **PHANTOMPHOENIX** » Fri Jun 24, 2011 2:23 am

Schadenfreude wrote:
MacDaddy wrote:Yeah apparently Valanciunas was the smokescreen, just not for us. Nice night for Tristan Thompson! Why the Cas took him when they have Hickson and Varejao is a bit mystifying though.

Buyout issues with Val might have scared them off. Dan Gilbert is pretty desperate to get that ship turned around, and it might've looked bad if one of his two picks couldn't come over this year.

I agree with this view. Cleveland wants their shiny new toys and don't have patience to wait a year for one of the two draft picks.

They will try to sell Irving & Thompson as a future duo.

DarkKnight · Post #634 » by **DarkKnight** » Fri Jun 24, 2011 2:25 am

Undefeated wrote:
DarkKnight wrote:
Undefeated wrote:
Um, Val did finish those alley-oop plays. How does that explain he has no athleticism?

It's not that hard to cneak in a 2-hander, without bending your arms, when you're 7 feet. You only have to jump about 15 inches.

Yet Bargnani can hardly finish an alley-oop play. Val is athletic relative to his 7 foot frame and there are more clips out there that show Val to be more athletic.

Every clip i ahve seen, he has the tall-dunk soft dunk and the layup. I've seen zero videos that show anything that could even be considered average NBA athletecism. If you have a video that show it, i'd love to see it.

Bargnani has had some monster dunks. I'd say Bargs is a superior jumper to Val, and that's sad.

disoblige · Post #635 » by **disoblige** » Fri Jun 24, 2011 2:25 am

he won a championship at age 19.

Kabookalu · Post #636 » by **Kabookalu** » Fri Jun 24, 2011 2:26 am

disoblige wrote:he won a championship at age 19.

Are you talking about Darko Milicic?

Post #637 » by **5DOM** » Fri Jun 24, 2011 2:27 am

There are not many 7 footers who are more athletic than Bargnani. Valanciunas just needs more strength

RoyceDa59 · Post #638 » by **RoyceDa59** » Fri Jun 24, 2011 2:27 am

This guy bring everything you want in a center - he rebounds, defends, blocks shots, scores around the basket, crashes the offensive glass, runs the floor well, isn't afraid of contact and shoots 80% FT! This guy will turn out to be a Noah type of player and all of the haters will deem him untouchable in 3 years.

Do you guys not get it? Jonas is EXACTLY what the Raps have been missing since Antonio Davis left town - a big, tough big man who understands how to play like a center. These are the HARDEST players to acquire in the league. We've finally found our center moving forward and he fits perfectly next to Bargs and Davis. Our future now has a light at the end of the tunnel.

Next year's draft will have a dozen or so star players and we will still be in the lottery. We can acquire a future star and have a great looking team moving forward. I love this pick.

clockwork · Post #639 » by **clockwork** » Fri Jun 24, 2011 2:27 am

Choker wrote:
clockwork wrote:One video is shown and all prior logical hard worked reasoning skills went out the window.

Morons.

Well that's because my logical hard working reasoning skills actually kicked into gear. What was at work before was my imagination hoping that Val would somehow turn into Pau Gasol.

No that's optimism.. one 4 minute clip erases all this kids hope of being that.

It doesn't matter how hard he worked, 4 minute clip of one bad game in his career as a basketball player is enough proof that he sucks. Way to go education system.

Tough Tony D · Post #640 » by **Tough Tony D** » Fri Jun 24, 2011 2:27 am

Undefeated wrote:
Yet Bargnani can hardly finish an alley-oop play. Val is athletic relative to his 7 foot frame and there are more clips out there that show Val to be more athletic.

Maybe but from all the highlights (good or bad) and pretty much all the reports, you can't see him being a shot blocking defensive center in the nba. Much better rebounder and worker than Bargnani, very good FT shooter.

Are you happy with the Raptors selection 5th overall?