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Re: What to do with Bruce Brown 

Post#701 » by KL78192020 » Fri Jan 26, 2024 12:08 am

CoinTossRoss31 wrote:First + Prospect would make the return even better for Siakam.

Whats everyone think of a deal where Toronto gets OMax + Dallas 2026 First ?


I don't think you get a prospect and a pick. You get one item, similar to Rozier. Brown isn't better than Rozier.
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Re: What to do with Bruce Brown 

Post#702 » by Tha Cynic » Fri Jan 26, 2024 12:11 am

Late pick and an expiring or two second rounders and an expiring is what I expect. We've had this dance before.
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Re: What to do with Bruce Brown 

Post#703 » by Zeno » Fri Jan 26, 2024 12:11 am

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CoinTossRoss31 wrote:First + Prospect would make the return even better for Siakam.

Whats everyone think of a deal where Toronto gets OMax + Dallas 2026 First ?


I don't think you get a prospect and a pick. You get one item, similar to Rozier. Brown isn't better than Rozier.

His contract is. But I agree with you. You probably don’t get an expiring, a young player and a pick. But maybe a bad contract, a young player and a pick is possible.
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Re: What to do with Bruce Brown 

Post#704 » by Reeko » Fri Jan 26, 2024 12:19 am

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CoinTossRoss31 wrote:First + Prospect would make the return even better for Siakam.

Whats everyone think of a deal where Toronto gets OMax + Dallas 2026 First ?


I don't think you get a prospect and a pick. You get one item, similar to Rozier. Brown isn't better than Rozier.

His contract is. But I agree with you. You probably don’t get an expiring, a young player and a pick. But maybe a bad contract, a young player and a pick is possible.

If that pick is a 2nd rounder, maybe. Otherwise it's bad contract and young player OR 1st round pick (either late or heavily protected).
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Re: What to do with Bruce Brown 

Post#705 » by ArthurVandelay » Fri Jan 26, 2024 12:29 am

Been really quiet of late.

My guess is the battle lines have been drawn and it’s a stalemate with one waiting for the other to budge.

Knicks have been linked to other players but one thing about Brown is that team option gives them a lot of flexibility they wouldn’t otherwise have with an expiring or guaranteed contract for next season.

Fournier, Grimes, and a first…just get it over with already lol
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Re: What to do with Bruce Brown 

Post#706 » by Zeno » Fri Jan 26, 2024 12:41 am

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I don't think you get a prospect and a pick. You get one item, similar to Rozier. Brown isn't better than Rozier.

His contract is. But I agree with you. You probably don’t get an expiring, a young player and a pick. But maybe a bad contract, a young player and a pick is possible.

If that pick is a 2nd rounder, maybe. Otherwise it's bad contract and young player OR 1st round pick (either late or heavily protected).

If I’m taking on a bad contract I’d want compensation for that bad contract in addition to the compensation for Brown as a player. In the case of Fournier who is basically an expiring, I don’t think you get both Grimes and the pick because Fournier is expiring. I think people are dreaming with that one.
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Re: What to do with Bruce Brown 

Post#707 » by Dalek » Fri Jan 26, 2024 12:54 am

ArthurVandelay wrote:Been really quiet of late.

My guess is the battle lines have been drawn and it’s a stalemate with one waiting for the other to budge.

Knicks have been linked to other players but one thing about Brown is that team option gives them a lot of flexibility they wouldn’t otherwise have with an expiring or guaranteed contract for next season.

Fournier, Grimes, and a first…just get it over with already lol


Until Dejounte Murray is moved I think a lot of trades will be on hold. He is productive and on a great contract. I think people are saving their ammo for him. Brown is really good, but more of a role player who seems overpaid. He should be in a mid-level tier like Dennis.
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Re: What to do with Bruce Brown 

Post#708 » by Rapsfan07 » Fri Jan 26, 2024 12:56 am

ArthurVandelay wrote:Been really quiet of late.

My guess is the battle lines have been drawn and it’s a stalemate with one waiting for the other to budge.

Knicks have been linked to other players but one thing about Brown is that team option gives them a lot of flexibility they wouldn’t otherwise have with an expiring or guaranteed contract for next season.

Fournier, Grimes, and a first…just get it over with already lol


The math tells me that the Knicks will be making or trying very hard to make another move before the deadline. Given the fact that that they're trying to win and have no capspace coming up, it wouldn't make sense for them to allow Fournier to sit around and expire. Fournier's deal gives them an opportunity to add another good player to their team without having to disrupt the rotation too much.

My guess is they're shopping around a Fournier + Grimes package with FRPs potentially on the table, depending on who's coming back. The best player that fits their needs and is available for that package is what they'll pull the trigger on. Rumors have it that they have their eyes on Murray but that package seems a little light, since ATL would then need to go out and find a replacement at SG. Maybe something like Fournier, Grimes and picks for Murray and Bey?

If that, or something like it, doesn't get done then they'll circle back around to us for Bruce Brown. I don't think we're getting a FRP AND Grimes though.
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Re: What to do with Bruce Brown 

Post#709 » by PoundTown » Fri Jan 26, 2024 12:58 am

ArthurVandelay wrote:Been really quiet of late.

My guess is the battle lines have been drawn and it’s a stalemate with one waiting for the other to budge.

Knicks have been linked to other players but one thing about Brown is that team option gives them a lot of flexibility they wouldn’t otherwise have with an expiring or guaranteed contract for next season.

Fournier, Grimes, and a first…just get it over with already lol



With the way grimes is shooting, they may fold on that. If I’m masai I’m atleast holding steady on that until the last minute. A change of scenery and a reunion with his former young teammates might be perfect for him, and he defends and we know he’s capable of shooting. I like it, and probably the best brown could get a return for.
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Re: What to do with Bruce Brown 

Post#710 » by pharring » Fri Jan 26, 2024 1:03 am

He stay.
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Re: What to do with Bruce Brown 

Post#711 » by Rapsfan07 » Fri Jan 26, 2024 1:12 am

Also, I don't like our chances of getting a really good haul from Brown outside of trading to the Knicks. There might be a lot of teams interest but not a lot of teams that can give us what we would want in return. Due to his salary, almost every team other than the Knicks is going to have to send back long term salary and it probably won't be salary we want.

The Knicks package will be around Fournier
The Warriors package will be around Wiggins
The Thunder package will be around Bertans
The Mavericks package will be around Holmes

Everyone else doesn't really need him for different reasons.

I wonder if the Magic could be talked into something around WCJ...getting the contracts to match would be a problem though.
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Re: What to do with Bruce Brown 

Post#712 » by Reeko » Fri Jan 26, 2024 1:12 am

Zeno wrote:
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Zeno wrote:His contract is. But I agree with you. You probably don’t get an expiring, a young player and a pick. But maybe a bad contract, a young player and a pick is possible.

If that pick is a 2nd rounder, maybe. Otherwise it's bad contract and young player OR 1st round pick (either late or heavily protected).

If I’m taking on a bad contract I’d want compensation for that bad contract in addition to the compensation for Brown as a player. In the case of Fournier who is basically an expiring, I don’t think you get both Grimes and the pick because Fournier is expiring. I think people are dreaming with that one.

Right, then I suppose it would be dependent on how bad said contract is. If it's expiring then it's likely an either or situation, on the other hand if there are 2 or 3 years left on the bad contract maybe you can get both.
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Re: What to do with Bruce Brown 

Post#713 » by Psubs » Fri Jan 26, 2024 1:51 am

Knicks are up 62-41 at the half vs Denver. Things are going extremely well with OG, so why make another trade right now and risk things going different like with Pascal. Gotta what for a losing streak or the deadline.
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Re: What to do with Bruce Brown 

Post#714 » by Appostis » Fri Jan 26, 2024 2:37 am

Psubs wrote:Knicks are up 62-41 at the half vs Denver. Things are going extremely well with OG, so why make another trade right now and risk things going different like with Pascal. Gotta what for a losing streak or the deadline.


The guy who is currently putting up a game 26/13/10 game?

Did the Knicks have a injury to their player that I missed?

What nonsense are you going on with? Suggesting the Pascal move is causing the Pacers issues :crazy:
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Re: What to do with Bruce Brown 

Post#715 » by CB4real » Fri Jan 26, 2024 3:06 am

If you check Bruce's IG, he just posted a Chris brown "Say Goodbye" video clip and a picture of him lifting up a hand as if to say goodbye on his Story.

HE.GONE.
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Post#717 » by WuTang_CMB » Fri Jan 26, 2024 3:19 am

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Re: What to do with Bruce Brown 

Post#718 » by Psubs » Fri Jan 26, 2024 3:35 am

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Psubs wrote:Knicks are up 62-41 at the half vs Denver. Things are going extremely well with OG, so why make another trade right now and risk things going different like with Pascal. Gotta what for a losing streak or the deadline.


The guy who is currently putting up a game 26/13/10 game?

Did the Knicks have a injury to their player that I missed?

What nonsense are you going on with? Suggesting the Pascal move is causing the Pacers issues :crazy:


They were rolling. Well Pascal probably had the best game of his career. :D

Anways, OG was a +38 today. :o

Knicks are really going to make the trade now when they are so hot? At least Grimes scored 19 pts in 22 mins.
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Re: What to do with Bruce Brown 

Post#719 » by Appostis » Fri Jan 26, 2024 3:54 am

Psubs wrote:
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Psubs wrote:Knicks are up 62-41 at the half vs Denver. Things are going extremely well with OG, so why make another trade right now and risk things going different like with Pascal. Gotta what for a losing streak or the deadline.


The guy who is currently putting up a game 26/13/10 game?

Did the Knicks have a injury to their player that I missed?

What nonsense are you going on with? Suggesting the Pascal move is causing the Pacers issues :crazy:


They were rolling. Well Pascal probably had the best game of his career. :D

Anways, OG was a +38 today. :o

Knicks are really going to make the trade now when they are so hot? At least Grimes scored 19 pts in 22 mins.


Nether situation is remotely the same but you framing it as the Pascal arrival ruined chemistry.. just ignoring the injury Haliburton injury. You seem hell.bent on doubling down on your nonsense. *Face palm*
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Re: What to do with Bruce Brown 

Post#720 » by Psubs » Fri Jan 26, 2024 4:01 am

Appostis wrote:
Psubs wrote:
Appostis wrote:
The guy who is currently putting up a game 26/13/10 game?

Did the Knicks have a injury to their player that I missed?

What nonsense are you going on with? Suggesting the Pascal move is causing the Pacers issues :crazy:


They were rolling. Well Pascal probably had the best game of his career. :D

Anways, OG was a +38 today. :o

Knicks are really going to make the trade now when they are so hot? At least Grimes scored 19 pts in 22 mins.


Nether situation is remotely the same but you framing it as the Pascal arrival ruined chemistry.. just ignoring the injury Haliburton injury. You seem hell.bent on doubling down on your nonsense. *Face palm*


Haliburton was missing games before Pascal arrived and they were just as adept as the highest scoring team in the league.
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