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With the 45th pick, the Raptors select Jamal Shead

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Re: With the 45th pick, the Raptors select Jamal Shead 

Post#721 » by Psubs » Wed Feb 5, 2025 3:47 pm

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YogurtProducer wrote:And Chomche could be Giannis.


Isn't that what ceilings are? What was Giannis' ceiling as a rookie? Shawn Kemp? Then he grew to 6'11 by his 2nd season and it went up a little.

Sure, but what even is the point then? I guess Sheads ceiling is Chris Paul if he learns to pass and shoot?

Generally when people are talking ceilings we try to stay realistic. Obviously we have no clue, and any player in theory could grow to be as good as any other player in the NBA.


Well why can't his ceiling be lower like Brunson?

All I'm saying that his comp is FVV and his ceiling is higher, close to but lower than Jalen Brunson. :nod:
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Post#722 » by LoveMyRaps » Wed Feb 5, 2025 3:58 pm

He's a fan favorite because he really does resemble Kyle Lowry.

Masai got a gem in Shead.

Gonna be a solid bench player for years to come.
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Re: With the 45th pick, the Raptors select Jamal Shead 

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Isn't that what ceilings are? What was Giannis' ceiling as a rookie? Shawn Kemp? Then he grew to 6'11 by his 2nd season and it went up a little.

Sure, but what even is the point then? I guess Sheads ceiling is Chris Paul if he learns to pass and shoot?

Generally when people are talking ceilings we try to stay realistic. Obviously we have no clue, and any player in theory could grow to be as good as any other player in the NBA.


Well why can't his ceiling be lower like Brunson?

All I'm saying that his comp is FVV and his ceiling is higher, close to but lower than Jalen Brunson. :nod:


Ceiling is Magic Johnson, floor is Chris Paul.
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Re: With the 45th pick, the Raptors select Jamal Shead 

Post#724 » by ItsDanger » Wed Feb 5, 2025 5:02 pm

Shead has his own style. Don't understand the need to label player comparisons all the time.
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Re: With the 45th pick, the Raptors select Jamal Shead 

Post#725 » by Psubs » Wed Feb 5, 2025 5:36 pm

ItsDanger wrote:Shead has his own style. Don't understand the need to label player comparisons all the time.


I'm just saying that his ceiling is higher than FVV and people are saying that they think I mean likely career.

Shead is quicker and jumps higher, thus finishes at the rim way better. It's really the only early frustrating things about FVV.
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Post#726 » by theonlyeastcoastrapsfan » Wed Feb 5, 2025 5:59 pm

I Like Shead and Mitchell. I wish there was a way we could move Quickly - because I like Walter, RJ and Grady too, but its just too many guards. I cant really see any other team taking that contract though.
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Post#727 » by Psubs » Wed Feb 5, 2025 6:15 pm

theonlyeastcoastrapsfan wrote:I Like Shead and Mitchell. I wish there was a way we could move Quickly - because I like Walter, RJ and Grady too, but its just too many guards. I cant really see any other team taking that contract though.


Likely trade Mitchell.

Shead/Walter/Agbaji is all the POA defense you need. Just need a backup PF/C with ultra defense that can shoot 3's (Alex Condon). :D

I would like to trade for Jared Vanderbilt to boost the bench defense at forward beside Mogbo.
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Post#728 » by tecumseh18 » Wed Feb 5, 2025 7:57 pm

theonlyeastcoastrapsfan wrote:I Like Shead and Mitchell. I wish there was a way we could move Quickly - because I like Walter, RJ and Grady too, but its just too many guards. I cant really see any other team taking that contract though.


Agreed. I've been thinking that a perfect trade for the Raps would be to send IQ to NOP for Ingram. But that would leave the Pels in the tax next year with CJ's massive salary. If necessary, we could take that back as well and send Brown and Boucher to salary match. I'd expect some draft capital coming back, because we'd really be helping them out.
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Re: With the 45th pick, the Raptors select Jamal Shead 

Post#729 » by MEDIC » Sun Feb 9, 2025 9:49 pm

Steady Sheady!

The guy is getting more confident every game. I think the Raps commiting to him as the unquestionable backup PG will only help his confidence & his aggressiveness.

So happy for this guy. He is going to be a good one!
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Post#730 » by ForeverTFC » Sun Feb 9, 2025 10:00 pm

He's developing well. Misses a lot of passes that he should make though; not sure if he's not seeing them or just trying to be extra careful with the ball right now given all the turnovers this team had to begin the season.
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Post#731 » by Psubs » Sun Feb 9, 2025 10:03 pm

ForeverTFC wrote:He's developing well. Misses a lot of passes that he should make though; not sure if he's not seeing them or just trying to be extra careful with the ball right now given all the turnovers this team had to begin the season.


In only half a season, it looks like he has the footwork prep and shot-mechanics fixed and his 3 looks legit at least above average. 8-)
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Post#732 » by Psubs » Tue Feb 11, 2025 6:15 pm

Shead from 2 is 47.9%, while Fred has never posted over 45.5%.
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Re: With the 45th pick, the Raptors select Jamal Shead 

Post#733 » by Naysorn » Tue Feb 11, 2025 6:18 pm

Shead is gonna make a lot of money in this league and have a long career lol
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Post#735 » by Psubs » Tue Feb 11, 2025 6:34 pm

Naysorn wrote:Shead is gonna make a lot of money in this league and have a long career lol


At least the MLE. Who knows if he'll get the opportunity to start.
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Post#736 » by GoRapstheoriginal » Wed Feb 12, 2025 4:18 am

Solid game tonight!
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Post#737 » by Psubs » Wed Feb 12, 2025 4:30 am

GoRapstheoriginal wrote:Solid game tonight!


His defense was good but he forced it a bit too much thus the high turnovers. Should've had 2 more assists on 2 missed bunnies.
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Post#738 » by LarSiN » Wed Feb 12, 2025 1:44 pm

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theonlyeastcoastrapsfan wrote:I Like Shead and Mitchell. I wish there was a way we could move Quickly - because I like Walter, RJ and Grady too, but its just too many guards. I cant really see any other team taking that contract though.


Agreed. I've been thinking that a perfect trade for the Raps would be to send IQ to NOP for Ingram. But that would leave the Pels in the tax next year with CJ's massive salary. If necessary, we could take that back as well and send Brown and Boucher to salary match. I'd expect some draft capital coming back, because we'd really be helping them out.


Really glad we didn't do this lol
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Post#739 » by tecumseh18 » Wed Feb 12, 2025 2:25 pm

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theonlyeastcoastrapsfan wrote:I Like Shead and Mitchell. I wish there was a way we could move Quickly - because I like Walter, RJ and Grady too, but its just too many guards. I cant really see any other team taking that contract though.


Agreed. I've been thinking that a perfect trade for the Raps would be to send IQ to NOP for Ingram. But that would leave the Pels in the tax next year with CJ's massive salary. If necessary, we could take that back as well and send Brown and Boucher to salary match. I'd expect some draft capital coming back, because we'd really be helping them out.


Really glad we didn't do this lol


Eh, it would depend on the draft capital coming back as part of my elaborate proposed deal. But one thing is evident - by keeping and playing IQ, we are gonna win more games this season even with BI on the bench. The long-term effect of that we'll have to find out.
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Re: With the 45th pick, the Raptors select Jamal Shead 

Post#740 » by Los_29 » Wed Feb 12, 2025 2:49 pm

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theonlyeastcoastrapsfan wrote:I Like Shead and Mitchell. I wish there was a way we could move Quickly - because I like Walter, RJ and Grady too, but its just too many guards. I cant really see any other team taking that contract though.


Agreed. I've been thinking that a perfect trade for the Raps would be to send IQ to NOP for Ingram. But that would leave the Pels in the tax next year with CJ's massive salary. If necessary, we could take that back as well and send Brown and Boucher to salary match. I'd expect some draft capital coming back, because we'd really be helping them out.


Really glad we didn't do this lol


What a disaster that would’ve been.

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